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Conflict in the Middle East

US, Iran and mediators discuss terms for a 45-day ceasefire

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Twiglets1 · 06/04/2026 10:19

As reported by Axios, the U.S., Iran and a group of regional mediators are discussing the terms for a potential 45-day ceasefire that could lead to a permanent end to the war, according to four U.S., Israeli and regional sources with knowledge of the talks.

Four sources with knowledge of the diplomatic efforts said the negotiations are taking place through Pakistani, Egyptian and Turkish mediators and also through text messages sent between Trump's envoy Steve Witkoff and Iran's Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi.

  • A U.S. official said the Trump administration gave Iran several proposals in recent days, but so far Iranian officials hadn't accepted them.
  • The sources said the mediators are discussing with the parties the terms for two-phased deal; the first phase would a potential 45-day ceasefire during which a permanent end to the war would be negotiated.
  • The ceasefire could be extended if more time were needed for talks, one of the sources said.
  • The second phase would be an agreement on ending the war.
  • The sources said mediators think that fully reopening the Strait of Hormuz and a solution for Iran's highly enriched Uranium — either through its removal from the country or dilution — could only be a result of a final deal.
  • These two issues are Iran's main bargaining chips in the negotiations and the Iranians will not agree to fully give up on them for only 45 days of ceasefire, two of the sources said.
  • The mediators want to see whether Iran could take partial step on both issues in the first phase of the deal. They are also working on steps the Trump administration could take to give Iran guarantees that the ceasefire will not be temporary and that the war will not resume.

www.axios.com/2026/04/06/iran-war-us-tehran-ceasefire-talks

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Stirabout · 06/04/2026 11:48

Thanks for keeping us updated Twiglets 🙏
I do mean that most sincerely

I’m Looking at whether Lebanon is part of that deal
I can’t find anything on that ?

There was a bbc headliner 6 days ago, but nothing since that I can find

Any intel Twiglets or others on here ?

US, Iran and mediators discuss terms for a 45-day ceasefire
Twiglets1 · 06/04/2026 13:35

I'm sorry @Stirabout I have not read anything about whether Lebanon would be part of the deal.

The BBC mention that that both Reuters and Axios are reporting that a proposal to cease hostilities has been passed to the US and Iran, but note that there is a lot we don't know. This includes:

Any more specifics about the terms of a deal. For example, how some of the war's key sticking points so far - the Strait of Hormuz, strikes, nuclear enrichment - play a role

How closely the terms of this ceasefire plan mirror earlier unsuccessful proposals - such as the 15-point plan given to Iran in late March

How the Gulf countries in the region - that have been subject to numerous attacks throughout this conflict - feature in a peace proposal

If there is a timeline for either side to respond

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c5yw4g3z7qgt

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Twiglets1 · 06/04/2026 13:41

All I do know on that subject @Stirabout is that back at the end of March when Trump submitted his 15 point peace plan, Iran's counter offer (you probably already know this) did include Guarantees that the war won’t restart, as well as an end to Israel’s operation against Hezbollah in Lebanon

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/5508101-trumps-15-point-peace-plan-irans-counter-offer

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Stirabout · 06/04/2026 13:45

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2026 13:41

All I do know on that subject @Stirabout is that back at the end of March when Trump submitted his 15 point peace plan, Iran's counter offer (you probably already know this) did include Guarantees that the war won’t restart, as well as an end to Israel’s operation against Hezbollah in Lebanon

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/5508101-trumps-15-point-peace-plan-irans-counter-offer

Yes I did read that
perhaps Iran have that included as a counter offer

praying for peace 🙏

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2026 13:53

Stirabout · 06/04/2026 13:45

Yes I did read that
perhaps Iran have that included as a counter offer

praying for peace 🙏

I am also hoping for peace & that a ceasefire can be agreed followed by a permanent end to the war soon in all the countries affected by it.

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Twiglets1 · 06/04/2026 15:07

UAE says Iran's strategy likely to push Gulf states closer to US

The United Arab Emirates is warning against a ceasefire that fails to address key issues in the region, including Iran’s nuclear programme and “the missiles and drones which are still raining down on us and other countries".

Dr Anwar Gargash, a senior adviser to the UAE president, made the comments in a briefing that his country wants to see an end to the conflict but not one that creates continuous instability in the region going forward.

Iran has had a chokehold on the Strait of Hormuz during this conflict. A handful of tankers are passing through the waterway every day, but the numbers are vastly reduced compared to normal.

He said Iran’s strategy was likely to harden the Gulf’s security alignment with Washington - not reduce it - and lead to Israeli influence in the region becoming more prominent. He added that the UAE would “double down” on its relationship with the United States.

He said “the Strait of Hormuz cannot be held hostage by any one country” and while the UAE was not ready to act as a maritime force, it would join "any American-led effort, international effort to secure navigation in the Strait.”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c5yw4g3z7qgt

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TomeTome · 06/04/2026 16:51

Let’s hope it starts with an apology for that frankly bizarre and offensive post from the American president.

My understanding was some ships were passing through, just not Israeli or US ones? I think it’s fairly reasonable of the Iranians not to let them pass given they are bombing Iran (I would assume the other countries they are killing people would do the same if they could. I also think if the US bombed the UK we wouldn’t welcome them in our waters.). “Consequences” is surely a standard way of trying to change undesirable behaviour.

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2026 19:11

Iran rejects temporary ceasefire proposal, state media reports

Iran rejected America's proposal for a temporary ceasefire and emphasized the need for a permanent end to the war, according to state news agency IRNA.

Iran sent its response through Pakistan, outlining demands including an end to conflicts in the region, creating a safe passage protocol for the Strait of Hormuz and lifting sanctions, according to the outlet.

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/iran/live-blog/live-updates-iran-war-trump-deadline-hormuz-oil-ceasefire-israel-rcna266833

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Twiglets1 · 07/04/2026 07:10

More details from Al Jazeera this morning who post that Iran are saying that a ceasefire is not going to solve the problem.

This will mean only more preparation, more time for the Americans and the Israelis to prepare for a much more destructive phase of this war.

So they have rejected that ceasefire offer.

They think a comprehensive peace deal, that includes the whole region, which means Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq and also Iran, and also guarantees that it is not going to be repeated – the war is not going to be waged again on Iran.

They want a comprehensive and lasting peace across the region because they think that’s the only solution that can last.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2026/4/7/iran-war-live-trump-warns-of-devastating-attacks-as-deal-deadline-nears

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Twiglets1 · 07/04/2026 07:12

I imagine this is something that ultimately the US can agree on @Stirabout so my expectation is that Trump will agree to a comprehensive peace deal involving other countries like Lebanon (whether Netanyahu is happy about that or not).

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Legssses · 07/04/2026 07:28

Twiglets1 · 07/04/2026 07:10

More details from Al Jazeera this morning who post that Iran are saying that a ceasefire is not going to solve the problem.

This will mean only more preparation, more time for the Americans and the Israelis to prepare for a much more destructive phase of this war.

So they have rejected that ceasefire offer.

They think a comprehensive peace deal, that includes the whole region, which means Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq and also Iran, and also guarantees that it is not going to be repeated – the war is not going to be waged again on Iran.

They want a comprehensive and lasting peace across the region because they think that’s the only solution that can last.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2026/4/7/iran-war-live-trump-warns-of-devastating-attacks-as-deal-deadline-nears

From the AJ article you quoted....

"Basically, they are saying that a ceasefire… is not going to solve the problem.This will mean only more preparation, more time for the Americans and the Israelis to prepare for a much more destructive phase of this war.So they have rejected that ceasefire offer.They think a comprehensive peace deal, that includes the whole region, which means Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq and also Iran, and also guarantees that it is not going to be repeated – the war is not going to be waged again on Iran.They want a comprehensive and lasting peace across the region because they think that’s the only solution that can last."

Paying particukar attention to these last two paragraphs...

"Iranians are also explaining that they have paid a hefty price in this war, a hefty cost due to the destruction that has taken place.And the only way they can be compensated for that is through a new regime, a new way of dealing with the situation in the Strait of Hormuz in the future, whereby Iran can levy taxes to compensate for the loss and destruction that has been visited on the country during this war."

What do you take from that @Twiglets1? It sounds like they are setting the terms of peace as a toll to pass through the SoH? I'm guessing they will continue with their insistence on payment in a currency other than dollars. Is that something DT and his team will consider? Impossible to dress this up as a victory for the US.

Edited because my paragraphs disappeared on posting for some reason!

Twiglets1 · 07/04/2026 08:14

I think the US & Israel may need to agree to pay Iran some form of compensation for damage caused by the war because after all, they did start this war.

Whether they would allow Iran to permanently charge a toll for ships to pass through the SoH seems less likely to me as that could potentially disadvantage lots of other countries too. And it would set an unfortunate precedent that other countries could follow based on their own physical geography.

But what do I know? I’m just guessing really. What do you think?

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Legssses · 07/04/2026 08:36

Twiglets1 · 07/04/2026 08:14

I think the US & Israel may need to agree to pay Iran some form of compensation for damage caused by the war because after all, they did start this war.

Whether they would allow Iran to permanently charge a toll for ships to pass through the SoH seems less likely to me as that could potentially disadvantage lots of other countries too. And it would set an unfortunate precedent that other countries could follow based on their own physical geography.

But what do I know? I’m just guessing really. What do you think?

I think their current positions are very far apart, and I am not feeling optimistic that a solution will be found any time soon. I don't find any hope in what AJ reported.

I would love to be proven wrong though!

I just don't see Trumps ego accepting compensation.

I am absolutely no fan of the regime, but Iran retaliated in a measured and diplomatic way to last year's attack and look where that got them. I can see them wanting their power over the SoH to be very thoroughly felt to deter any future "military operations". What is their incentive to maintain the petrodollar?

Likewise, Trump moving more troops and hardware to the region and his rhetoric last night re "they want to be bombed" isn't fanning the flames of hope for me.

But again, it would be amazing for me to be way off the mark with this!

RedTagAlan · 07/04/2026 08:52

Twiglets1 · 07/04/2026 08:14

I think the US & Israel may need to agree to pay Iran some form of compensation for damage caused by the war because after all, they did start this war.

Whether they would allow Iran to permanently charge a toll for ships to pass through the SoH seems less likely to me as that could potentially disadvantage lots of other countries too. And it would set an unfortunate precedent that other countries could follow based on their own physical geography.

But what do I know? I’m just guessing really. What do you think?

If a nation has ratified UNCLOS then they must allow freedom of navigation. Iran and the US are both in the very small group of nations that have not ratified it.

I think, in theory, it works on reciprocation. If Iran does not allow freedom of navigation, then the UK and France can do the same to Iranian ships in the channel.

RoyalImpatience · 07/04/2026 08:56

As far as I was aware trump didn't want to do deeper damage because they wanted regime change and give them somerhng to run the country with.

How will they ensure all the uranium is out . It's clear they cannot be trusted one millimeter.

And have multiple sites.
I'm not sure I could trust them re uranium and after this if I was them I would be moving heaven and earth to get nukes with Russia's help.

Twiglets1 · 07/04/2026 09:14

That Iran wants nukes seems pretty clear.

That they can’t be allowed to get them under the current regime at least seems equally clear. Maybe even to Russia, I don’t know.

Russia doesn’t have a death wish or the religious ideology that death has its own rewards in martyrdom.

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Stirabout · 07/04/2026 10:42

I doubt Trump or Netanyahu will be that bothered if other countries have to pay levies to get through the SOH
I think Trump has made that clear with his rants about the U.K. etc not helping
They’ll walk away and not look back

Legssses · 07/04/2026 10:44

Stirabout · 07/04/2026 10:42

I doubt Trump or Netanyahu will be that bothered if other countries have to pay levies to get through the SOH
I think Trump has made that clear with his rants about the U.K. etc not helping
They’ll walk away and not look back

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Do you think Trump will care if Iran stipulates a currency other than the dollar must be used for payment?

shuddacuddadidnt · 07/04/2026 10:52

Twiglets1 · 07/04/2026 09:14

That Iran wants nukes seems pretty clear.

That they can’t be allowed to get them under the current regime at least seems equally clear. Maybe even to Russia, I don’t know.

Russia doesn’t have a death wish or the religious ideology that death has its own rewards in martyrdom.

Iran's not the only one. What Trump has done is made countries rethink what have national security means.

https://www.cfr.org/articles/why-u-s-allies-in-asia-are-chasing-nuclear-energy-and-eyeing-nuclear-weapons

https://www.chathamhouse.org/2026/03/iran-war-risks-triggering-new-wave-nuclear-proliferation

Why U.S. Allies in Asia Are Chasing Nuclear Energy—And Eyeing Nuclear Weapons | Council on Foreign Relations

The Iran war’s energy fallout is speeding up a debate in Japan and South Korea about expanding nuclear power capabilities, while the Trump administration’s recent shift away from Asian allies has sparked dialogue about whether the two Northeast Asian p...

https://www.cfr.org/articles/why-u-s-allies-in-asia-are-chasing-nuclear-energy-and-eyeing-nuclear-weapons

shuddacuddadidnt · 07/04/2026 11:03

Legssses · 07/04/2026 10:44

Do you think Trump will care if Iran stipulates a currency other than the dollar must be used for payment?

Trump might not care because he might be out of office by then, but there will be economic and financial ramifications for the US if countries don't need to buy USD to pay tolls. China will be laughing if Iran says it will accept all payments in CNY.
I believe Iran is currently accepting euros and yuan.

Stirabout · 07/04/2026 11:15

Legssses · 07/04/2026 10:44

Do you think Trump will care if Iran stipulates a currency other than the dollar must be used for payment?

If he understands the dominance of the petrodollar he should
I very much doubt he has the brain power for that

Legssses · 07/04/2026 11:36

I agree with both of you. On a personal level he might not care, but he does tend to TACO in response to the markets and he will want the mid-terms to go his way so he can maintain maximum power and minimum risk of jail.

Stirabout · 07/04/2026 11:40

Legssses · 07/04/2026 11:36

I agree with both of you. On a personal level he might not care, but he does tend to TACO in response to the markets and he will want the mid-terms to go his way so he can maintain maximum power and minimum risk of jail.

TACO ?

Legssses · 07/04/2026 11:52

Stirabout · 07/04/2026 11:40

TACO ?

Trump Always Chickens Out.

I think the phrase was first coined by the stock markets when he was placing tarrif deadlines on China maybe? Or maybe it was when he was threatening Putin but didnt follow through...?

But anyway, the essence is that Trump is keen on throwing down ultimatums and then not following through.

shuddacuddadidnt · 07/04/2026 13:32

Latest Truth from Trump

A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don’t want that to happen, but it probably will. However, now that we have Complete and Total Regime Change, where different, smarter, and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can happen, WHO KNOWS? We will find out tonight, one of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the World. 47 years of extortion, corruption, and death, will finally end. God Bless the Great People of Iran!

Guaranteed to force Iran to concede to all Trump's demands, of course.

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