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Conflict in the Middle East

US, Iran and mediators discuss terms for a 45-day ceasefire

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Twiglets1 · 06/04/2026 10:19

As reported by Axios, the U.S., Iran and a group of regional mediators are discussing the terms for a potential 45-day ceasefire that could lead to a permanent end to the war, according to four U.S., Israeli and regional sources with knowledge of the talks.

Four sources with knowledge of the diplomatic efforts said the negotiations are taking place through Pakistani, Egyptian and Turkish mediators and also through text messages sent between Trump's envoy Steve Witkoff and Iran's Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi.

  • A U.S. official said the Trump administration gave Iran several proposals in recent days, but so far Iranian officials hadn't accepted them.
  • The sources said the mediators are discussing with the parties the terms for two-phased deal; the first phase would a potential 45-day ceasefire during which a permanent end to the war would be negotiated.
  • The ceasefire could be extended if more time were needed for talks, one of the sources said.
  • The second phase would be an agreement on ending the war.
  • The sources said mediators think that fully reopening the Strait of Hormuz and a solution for Iran's highly enriched Uranium — either through its removal from the country or dilution — could only be a result of a final deal.
  • These two issues are Iran's main bargaining chips in the negotiations and the Iranians will not agree to fully give up on them for only 45 days of ceasefire, two of the sources said.
  • The mediators want to see whether Iran could take partial step on both issues in the first phase of the deal. They are also working on steps the Trump administration could take to give Iran guarantees that the ceasefire will not be temporary and that the war will not resume.

www.axios.com/2026/04/06/iran-war-us-tehran-ceasefire-talks

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Twiglets1 · 26/05/2026 13:11

All those wading in demanding "evidence" of the mine laying (which the IRGC openly admit they do on occasion), do you also demand evidence every single time Iran or their proxies Hamas or Hezbollah accuse Israel or the US of doing something?

If the answer is no, your bias is very obvious.

If you're going to pick a side (which I don't mind admitting I believe the US/Israel over the IRGC & their proxies) at least be honest.

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TopPocketFind · 26/05/2026 13:27

Why would we need to pick a side?

RedTagAlan · 26/05/2026 13:51

TopPocketFind · 26/05/2026 13:27

Why would we need to pick a side?

Agree. And it is not picking sides to question any information given

For example, anyone that follows war stuff will know that mines are an area denial tool. They do not actually need to be there to be effective. So if Iran says they have laid mines, no evidence needed. It is the threat that is effective.

Twiglets1 · 26/05/2026 13:54

TopPocketFind · 26/05/2026 13:27

Why would we need to pick a side?

If you only ever demand evidence of one side then you have already picked a side.

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TopPocketFind · 26/05/2026 13:55

Twiglets1 · 26/05/2026 13:54

If you only ever demand evidence of one side then you have already picked a side.

That is not what is happening.

Stirabout · 26/05/2026 14:01

TopPocketFind · 26/05/2026 13:55

That is not what is happening.

Agree
and
One could say if you blindly believe one side without evidence and against all logic it’s much the same

Twiglets1 · 26/05/2026 16:56

Stirabout · 26/05/2026 14:01

Agree
and
One could say if you blindly believe one side without evidence and against all logic it’s much the same

Edited

Well if that's aimed at me then I don't blindly believe one side.

I made the point earlier today re Israel that "From what I can tell the self-defence argument is true in some cases but not in every case".

I also said re US bombing "With a partial peace agreement apparently very close, maybe they shouldn't have done that. But that again, will anyone but me bother to mention that maybe - with a partial peace agreement so close - just maybe Iran shouldn't have been putting down more mines in the Strait?"

Inflammatory moves on both sides but people only like to talk about what the US does that is inflammatory, never Iran. Hence my comment was not received well which was entirely predictable.

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TopPocketFind · 26/05/2026 17:43

At the moment it is the US and Israel doing the bombing.

JadeHare · 26/05/2026 17:48

Twiglets1 · 26/05/2026 16:56

Well if that's aimed at me then I don't blindly believe one side.

I made the point earlier today re Israel that "From what I can tell the self-defence argument is true in some cases but not in every case".

I also said re US bombing "With a partial peace agreement apparently very close, maybe they shouldn't have done that. But that again, will anyone but me bother to mention that maybe - with a partial peace agreement so close - just maybe Iran shouldn't have been putting down more mines in the Strait?"

Inflammatory moves on both sides but people only like to talk about what the US does that is inflammatory, never Iran. Hence my comment was not received well which was entirely predictable.

But you didn’t mention both sides had been inflammatory Twigs. You were quick to accuse me of not mentioning Iran, and yet it took quite a few posts for you to admit that Israel were breaking the ceasefire in Lebanon. And now you are accusing people of being one sided.

Twiglets1 · 26/05/2026 17:51

TopPocketFind · 26/05/2026 17:43

At the moment it is the US and Israel doing the bombing.

New initiative lets Jews around the world support Israel's North amid drone attacks

There is no ceasefire in northern Israel - only families facing fear, displacement, and growing hardship every day.

Israel’s security establishment has identified a significant escalation in Hezbollah’s drone threat following a large-scale attack on northern Israel - an incident described by a security official as “the most powerful drone attack ever launched against Israel.” Several drones penetrated Israeli territory, causing fires and injuring both soldiers and civilians, while others reportedly hovered above Israeli towns and strategic sites in the north, further deepening residents’ fear and sense of insecurity.

As fighting in the north continues and sirens repeatedly sound throughout border communities, daily life for thousands of families has become one of constant tension. Sleepless nights. Children afraid to leave their homes. Parents trying to maintain some sense of routine in a reality that is anything but normal. And alongside all of this, the economic burden continues to deepen. Businesses have been severely affected, workplaces disrupted, and many families are struggling to keep up with daily expenses.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-897342

New initiative lets Jews around the world support Israel's North under attack | The Jerusalem Post

There is no ceasefire in northern Israel - only families facing fear, displacement, and growing hardship every day.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-897342

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Twiglets1 · 26/05/2026 17:56

Israel will not exist in 15 years, Mojtaba Khamenei says

Mojtaba Khamenei, the Islamic Republic’s third Supreme Leader, said in a message published Tuesday for the Hajj pilgrimage that Israel would not exist within the next 15 years.

No image or audio recording of Mojtaba Khamenei has been released since his appointment as supreme leader.

The message, published by Iranian media, referred to remarks made a decade ago by Ali Khamenei, the slain former supreme leader of the Islamic Republic, who said Israel would “not see the next 25 years.”

Describing Israel as an “unstable Zionist regime” and a “cancerous tumor,” the message said it was “approaching the final stages of its cursed existence.”

Israel will not exist in 15 years, Mojtaba Khamenei says

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202605262009

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Twiglets1 · 26/05/2026 17:58

Iranian media published a message attributed to Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei marking the Hajj pilgrimage, saying the United States and Israel had been targeted through missile and drone capabilities on land, at sea and in the air, and that regional countries would no longer serve as a shield for the US military presence.

The message said countries in the region share capacities and interests that could help shape “a new order in the region and the world.”

It also said the slogans “Death to America” and “Death to Israel” would remain the rallying cries of the Islamic world, particularly among young people.

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202605263558

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Stirabout · 26/05/2026 17:58

JadeHare · 26/05/2026 17:48

But you didn’t mention both sides had been inflammatory Twigs. You were quick to accuse me of not mentioning Iran, and yet it took quite a few posts for you to admit that Israel were breaking the ceasefire in Lebanon. And now you are accusing people of being one sided.

Agree
There is no problem with questioning an act of war that is being discussed and that has just happened. Especially during a ceasefire when negotiators are literally sitting around the table.

Shouldn’t we all question
the motives
the evidence
the logistics if no proof is given.
That is not bias

Acts of such violence during a ceasefire causing deaths and loss of infrastructure isn’t going to pave the way for a swift peace deal

I do wonder if the US aren’t happy with the deal, given the timing , and just threw out some warning shots. I’m guessing we’ll never know

RedTagAlan · 26/05/2026 17:59

Thread title is "US, Iran and mediators discuss terms for a 45-day ceasefire".

It is not " Let's talk about the technicalities of different posters apparent bias"

We can all read what people write, and we usually take it in and note it. Some things can be left unsaid. For example, it can be left unsaid that nobody here supports a state being a religious theocracy. Not Iran, nor the US.

A little while ago I got banned from MN. Because of my posts being reported. Off topic, making the thread about a poster. Intimidation of a poster. Picking on a poster. Being off subject. When I contacted MN they said the ban was an error. But yeah,,, my posts were being reported.

We can all add a bit to this discussion. We have different skills, different knowledge bases and so on.

Upthread, I posted that the US apparently blocking the visa of an Iranian Official to attend a UN meeting in NY was a propaganda win for Iran. That was contested on here. And TBH, I think most posters here can see how that would be the case, that it was a propaganda win for Iran.

This is a discussion on a specific subject. And if someone makes a whopper of a statement, of course it becomes something to be discussed. That is the nature of the whole thing. But as with the US visa thing mentioned above, there is a level, I think, where someone needing justification of near every word written does become a deflection.

If I were to post "Jesus is on the US side, and with his divine help Trump will win"... that is me showing bias worth discussing. If I post about the lack of detail in a US press release, and I wonder how Iran drops minimum 1/4 tonne mines from speedboats, that is a discussion, not a declaration of bias.

Twiglets1 · 26/05/2026 18:07

@RedTagAlan if you really want to know I reported your posts for bullying & not just on one thread either.

It was apparently a mistake to ban you for comments that went a bit too far (I agree with that and didn't expect anything from reporting the comments more than deletions). Your posts that I reported remain deleted.

Best let that drop I would think. It's completely irrelevant to this discussion anyway.

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JadeHare · 26/05/2026 18:13

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It's nothing to do with you it was between myself and @RedTagAlan that she has decided to bring up again weeks after the event - who know why.

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TopPocketFind · 26/05/2026 18:30

Trump is having a medical today so maybe he needed a cheer me up?

(sarcasm but going by his AI videos/images it is not that far fetched)

Martymcfly24 · 26/05/2026 18:38

TopPocketFind · 26/05/2026 18:30

Trump is having a medical today so maybe he needed a cheer me up?

(sarcasm but going by his AI videos/images it is not that far fetched)

Netanyahu is in hospital too...
I'll get reported if I finish that sentence as I want too..

BelleHathor · 26/05/2026 18:41

RedTagAlan · 26/05/2026 18:24

So, the "defence strikes" against Iran.

Oil price went up again. Just after Trump had Rubio out trying to persuade nations to buy US oil.

Oil prices: Traders weigh the latest U.S. military operations (cnbc.com)

Applying logic to that does suggest a reason for that action.

Who'd have guessed that, odds on certain members of Trump’s family and acquaintances making a profit on their stock positions 🫣

Logically the bombing was an extremely stupid action by CENTCOM if they really want a deal. Do you remember the strikes on Venezuelan "Drug cartels" which turned out to be fishermen. However low iq and information folks saw the big boom booms and counted it as a win.

Unfortunately we have a sizeable proportion of the general public who believe things uncritically in an almost cult like manner (on both the left and right).

Look at this fella here debating journalist Glenn Greenwald on how the Iran war benefits Americans:
https://x.com/Joshua_the_car/status/2058972867803640227?s=20

Joshua Carr (@Joshua_the_car) on X

I debated Glenn Greenwald about the Iran war 6 weeks ago. Seems everything I predicted is coming true 🤷‍♂️

https://x.com/Joshua_the_car/status/2058972867803640227?s=20

Stirabout · 26/05/2026 18:42

Martymcfly24 · 26/05/2026 18:38

Netanyahu is in hospital too...
I'll get reported if I finish that sentence as I want too..

Something Wierd is going on with my ability to like/ agree etc with posts
so I’ll waste a post to say
‘ I know what you mean ‘

but
we can criticise Netanyahu, knock yourself out 😊

Twiglets1 · 26/05/2026 18:42

Martymcfly24 · 26/05/2026 18:38

Netanyahu is in hospital too...
I'll get reported if I finish that sentence as I want too..

No you wouldn't get reported for saying you hope he suffers or dies and even if you did get reported, the post wouldn't be deleted.

It's personal attacks or racism that are the usual reasons for posts to get deleted, we are all allowed our personal opinions as long as not expressed in a way that insults another user.

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Martymcfly24 · 26/05/2026 18:48

Stirabout · 26/05/2026 18:42

Something Wierd is going on with my ability to like/ agree etc with posts
so I’ll waste a post to say
‘ I know what you mean ‘

but
we can criticise Netanyahu, knock yourself out 😊

Thank you @Stirabout I'll take your thanks ...

Yeah any man whose policies have directly resulted in the deaths of thousands deserves no peace.

BelleHathor · 26/05/2026 18:50

Martymcfly24 · 26/05/2026 18:38

Netanyahu is in hospital too...
I'll get reported if I finish that sentence as I want too..

See as much as I would have agreed in the past with that idea, I've actually changed my mind and I want him to live a long life and to watch the fruits of his labours manifest in a way that he had not intended and his lifes desires be crushed.

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