Trump throwing a lot of people under the bus because of stock markets?

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When you start a war you finish it in my opinion. There has been no other war that has been stopped because of a slide on the Dow Jones or an oil price spike. For Trump to now prematurely call an end to the war simply because of economics will simply mean IIrans drone terrorism has worked.

The people of Iran will be left with a job half done without the space needed for an uprising.

A new leader with good reason to ideological hate Israel and the US will realise the only method of future deterrence of Iran is through acquiring a nuclear weapon as their conventional weapons were obliterated. Iran will now do everything possible to acquire such a weapon.

This is a time for resolve Mr. President. There is still a chance to destroy this regime maybe with limited target ground troop assaults. The world actually will be safer if you continue.

Not electricity that’s ok. Nuclear weapons, why are people not concerned about that?

Why are people not concerned Israel having nukes?
Or losing the war and using the to project power in the region.

Not electricity that’s ok. Nuclear weapons, why are people not concerned about that?

Given that the US has proven itself to no longer be a reliable ally, it would be entirely logical for nuclear weapons capable countries to start weaponing up or for non nuclear countries to form protective weapon adjacent alliances.

I guess that you believe that Iran had nuclear weapons or was close to getting them. For me, that was one of several red herrings the Trump WH is using to justify their attack on Iran.

Remember how the Iraq war was sold to us in 2003. Did Iraq still have WMD then?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-64914542

So it’s more that you don’t think they were close or couldn’t get there soon?

Trump said it himself that the Iranian nuke program had been destroyed. Several times. Do you think he was lying ?

The White house hasn't provided any information to back up Trump's claim that Iran was close

I don’t mind if people are certain Iran could not get there. The outcome if they did would be bad, not just for the immediate neighbours, people don’t seem to be arguing against that.

So it comes down to whether they could get there pretty soon or not. I’m happy to listen to various voices on this, not least analysts who have a greater understanding. Idk either way but if they do get close I’d probably take dc elsewhere.

It's because they're looking awfully stupid right now, Trump is the only president idiotic enough to believe the "intelligence" provided via Netanyahu and his proxies within the American Government. Apparently Witkoff and Kushner did not even have the technical knowledge or bring along experts to fully understand the concessions on Nuclear use the Iranians made in the last meeting.

Netanyahu the hypocrite (Israel has undeclared and unexpected nukes) who's been saying that Iran was weeks away from the bomb for 30 years:

Even, George W. Bush said no and he wasn't exactly a genius, though I will admit the calibre of experts within Government at that time was multiples better.

Mutually Assured Destruction is less of a deterrent if you think you're going to paradise. MAD is such an appropriate acronym.

Idk either way but if they do get close I’d probably take dc elsewhere.

@EasternStandard I understand your fears and concerns but unlike you, I don't think there will be anywhere in the world safe from the fallout of a nuclear war. I'm also willing to bet my life that if that happens, it won't be because Iran has nuclear weapons. I say this with close family members currently in Middle Eastern countries with US bases and under the constant attack of missiles and drones.

I think a lot of it is wishing and hoping for the salvation of Iranian women.
There is a tendency I know I do at times, that when you really wish for something you tend to try to block anything other than being saved from your mind.
I would imagine Iranian women are of the same mind.

Oh here you are again.
Because they are not suicidal terrorist maniacs like Iran.

This latest war instigated by Israel and the US has probably proven to Iran why their strategy of not having nukes has cost them. Now they can either abandon all nuclear capability or rush to build a bomb as that will be their highest protection. If there's no regime change then option two will be the most likely path taken.

If there is a regime change then it will work out in favour of Netanyahu and Trump. If not, they could have created the conditions for a far worse future scenario.

Fingers and everything else crossed for regime change

Not just the women, though many of us can empathise, but anyone can be a target of this regime. Your grown arse adult son could be sentenced to hang, or your husband. Those killed and maimed by the regime psychos were all sexes, all ages. Over and over, year after year.
Back in the day Khomeini wrote to Gorbachev offering the solace of Islam because Marxism had failed (bit ungrateful because they were instrumental in bringing him to power). He politely declined and the track record of autocratic theocracy in Iran puts the lie to that as a great solution too.
It's a hot mess, but if Iran was not behind Islamist terrorism, arming Russian expansionism in Ukraine, and training in Venezuela with their buddies in the drug cartels of South America, they might have been left to crack on in their butchery like Syria, Afghanistan and various other countries with fascinating history & culture but bugger all concession to the fondly held notion of human rights.

Yes I agree with both your posts. It’s too awful for women but also young adults who were protesting, that could be a twenty year old son. Plus the MAD post. I’m sure Iranians fear what the regime would do too with greater weapons.

What's stopping him is the fact that he's benefiting from it at the moment. From the rise in oil prices, lifting of sanctions on Russia and redirection of funds and misses away from Ukrainian defence and towards bombing Iran

They didn't attack their neighbours. They attacked bases within neighbours countries. Why are there so many bases?

Oh I don’t think it’s about the stock markets - it’s harming them and it will only get worse the longer it does on. A terrorist attack and there’ll be a crash.

Its all about the files and saving his ass.

They are maniacs unfortunately. Have you seen what they did to Gaza?

Fingers and everything else crossed for regime change

Like in Venezuela where the only change is Trump selling VZ oil and keeping all revenue generated from its sale in an offshore bank account in Qatar, where surprise, surprise, he's the sole owner!

Some of their neighbours are perceiving it as an attack, such as Qatar. As a response to Iran's strikes, they want to bolster security partnership with the US.

The spokesperson, Majed Al Ansari, told a media briefing on Tuesday the security partnership with the United States was not in question, but added that its deals with the U.S. and European countries need to be strengthened.

"The partnerships are the main stop-gap and deterrent against any attack on our country," he added.

"When things go out of control and spiral, the result is deterrents do not work... But that doesn't mean you shouldn't have deterrents. You should strengthen these deterrents and that is exactly what are we trying to do right," Al Ansari said.

www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/qatar-wants-bolster-security-partnership-with-us-after-irans-strikes-2026-03-10/

Why does Saudi have a mutual defence pact with nuclear(?) Pakistan. Maybe they don't trust their neighbours.

https://www.ft.com/content/3f67fdd9-8d85-485a-980a-addab8f1a540

This does not mean that I support the Iranian leadership. I'm just despairing of the US lies that prey on the hopes of others.