What was the purpose of this level of destruction?

[Stripes56]

Gazans are returning to their homes and are horrified to see the level of destruction. Their joy mixed with despair.

www.timesofisrael.com/gazans-joy-over-ceasefire-tempered-by-shock-as-they-return-to-destroyed-homes/

We can feel joy that the hostages are returning home, relief that Hamas will be sidelined - but how do we reconcile with the death and destruction that has happened in Gaza?

Definitely not fight back! Jews aren’t allowed to fight back! We are supposed to be good quiet Jews as we walk to the gas chambers.

And the lies go on and on and on. And the lies go on and on and on. You lot are going to be so embarrassed when the truth is revealed. You’ll still find a way to blame h try Jews but we’re used to it.

Why is it so hard to admit that what the IDF and this Current government what they did was just so atrocious , just as what Hamas did on 7oct was atrocious too, but the collective punishment and mass bombings and starvation for the past two years was just criminal . There is no other way around it .

EU pledges support for Gaza reconstruction, reforming the Palestinian Authority
European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen has said the EU will help reform the Palestinian Authority and fund the reconstruction of Gaza.
In a post on X, von der Leyen welcomed the ceasefire deal’s finalisation in Sharm el-Sheikh later today, calling it “a historical milestone”.
“The return of the Israeli hostages is a moment of pure joy for those families. And a moment of relief for the entire world. It means that a page can be turned. A new chapter can begin,” she wrote.
“Europe fully supports the peace plan brokered by the United States, Qatar, Egypt, and Türkiye. We stand ready to contribute to its success with all tools at our disposal, in particular by providing support on governance and for the reform of the Palestinian Authority.
“We will be an active force within the Palestinian Donors Group and will provide EU funding for the reconstruction of Gaza.”
Von der Leyen said the agreement ending the war represented “a new chapter” for the region

Just imagine if the world would have collectively insisted that Hamas disarm and return the hostages immediately on Oct 8th!! Just imagine that! The moral and ethical failure does not lie with the Jews or Israelis.

Propaganda - as I said, you’ll find this out in the future. Go look at what’s happening in Gaza right now. You’ll see.

I agree.

What Hamas did is evil but the Israeli Government & IDF mirrored that evil a 1000 times and more.

My thoughts are with the displaced people, the ones that died an unnecessary death because of stupid politics and the ones that continue to suffer because of the last 2 years.

That's both Israeli & Palestinian civilians.

Just one image of the destruction of Gaza by Israel

That could be a picture of any number of other war zones. For the millionth time, please let me know how else you would expect a war zone to look? I hate violence - on both sides. And I hate fear and horror and dead children. I'm not a monster. But I cannot see why Israel is unique in this situation. They were fighting against monsters who were hiding underneath human shields.

The only way to get Hamas to negotiate at all was through fear and even then it took TWO years and the pressure from the states to get them to give back 'most' of the hostages. Hamas isn't a friendly next door neighbour using commonly understood means of conversation - it's a brutal terrorist organisation who wants to destroy everyone and everything it sees. It's not like Hamas is now going to start rebuilding schools and educating women and encouraging mutually beneficial trade relations. There's no future with Hamas at all.

Damn right.

they will now start taking all the aid and selling it at high prices.

and continue to hold the Palestinian people to ransom with their violent thuggery.

There is absolutely NO comparison between the behaviour of Hamas and Israel. Don’t comment on what you don’t understand.

Hamas barbarically attacks unarmed Israelí civilians in a declaration of war where their stated aim is to cleans the region of all Jews. A literal declaration of genocidal intent- backed up with action: the rape, torture and murder of women and children. Videoed.

Israel fights back. Hard. With devastating effectiveness.

At no point does Hamas sue for peace or surrender or release all the hostages.

Why would anyone expect any country locked in an existential struggle for survival to stop when the other side hasn’t surrendered?

I don’t believe the Israelis would have kept going if Hamas had surrendered. Perhaps we should look at Hamas and interrogate their actions and motivations more.

The Nationalist in Scotland put together some of quotes from Israeli leaders for their front cover - shocking stuff - it answers the question.

This is hilariously one-sided. Do you think it would be that difficult to put together a similar list of what other countries say about Israel? Totally ridiculous to post this.

this thread is about the destruction of Gaza it’s perfectly on thread to post that destruction

Other derailing comments in your post aren’t relevant

Again I think you are completely missing the point of this thread @KoalaKoKo s post is relevant.

Thanks @KoalaKoKo
for drawing attention to these comments

Check your facts Israel pulled out of the last ceasefire when just the first lot of hostages were released

Israel then continued to kill, bomb, starve and committed a genocide on the people of Gaza

So here we are now discussing the level of destruction and whether it was appropriate.
Those of us with eyes and empathy for all of humankind disagree

I know what’s happening right now in Gaza ,
factions are fighting each other , that’s what happens at the end of every war it happened in Syria , Iraq. and I don’t need to wait for the future, we’ve seen it live on TV for two whole years .

but what I don’t understand why no one wants to admit the atrocities that accrued in the last two years , all the vindication and justification or worse
total dismissal of all the death and destruction

I don’t understand the death of Hind rajab, I don’t understand the flour massacre , I don’t understand the Al-Tabaeen School massacre , the bombings of WCK convoy , the St. Porphyrius church massacre , the GHF Aid massacre the siege of Al shifaa hospitals , the abandoning and tragic death of NICU babies.

can you give a valid explanation ? These are at safe "zones" by the way.

Israeli Destruction of

• Farmland
• Farming Equipment and
• seed banks in Gaza

( report from The Guardian 6th August 2025 )

Israel has targeted food sources – orchards, greenhouses, farmland and fishers – since the beginning of its siege on Gaza in October 2023.
By 28 July 2025, Israel had damaged 86%, the equivalent of almost 13,000 hectares (32,000 acres), of farmland in the Gaza Strip – up from 81% in April, the FAO said. While just under 9% of cropland is still physically accessible, only 1.5% – the equivalent of 232 hectares – is both accessible and not damaged by the Israeli offensive.

“Gaza is now on the brink of a full-scale famine. People are starving not because food is unavailable, but because access is blocked, local agrifood systems have collapsed, and families can no longer sustain even the most basic livelihoods,” said FAO director-general Qu

In northern Gaza, Israeli tanks and bombs have destroyed or damaged 94% of what was among the most fertile, productive land in the territory, and Palestinians have no access to the remaining 6% of their cropland. In Rafah, near the Egypt border, 79% is flattened and the rest has been blocked as part of Israel’s so called military border.

Last week, Israeli forces partially demolished a seed bank in Hebron, in the West Bank, destroying tools and equipments used to used to reproduce heirloom seeds.

UN experts, agencies and aid groups have been warning since early 2024 that Israel is orchestrating a campaign of deliberate mass starvation in Gaza by systematically destroying local food production and blocking aid, in violation of international law.

Hundreds of Palestinians have now starved to death, and thousands more have been killed trying to access food aid.

Earlier this week, Michael Fakhri, the UN special rapporteur on the right to food, told the Guardian: “Israel has built the most efficient starvation machine you can imagine. So while it’s always shocking to see people being starved, no one should act surprised.

All the information has been out in the open since early 2024.”

Hamas could have stopped it any time they wanted to.

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I understand enough about this conflict to know that it didn't start on 7/10/ 2023.
I also understand that Israel has had an aggressive expansion policy long before Hamas came into existence in the late 1980's.
This conflict is old and lines are blurred on both sides... Israel has its aggressive settlement politics and the Palestinians have a terrorist organisation.

Caught in the middle are civilians who just want to get on with their lives!

The region has an interesting history, it's worth exploring in order to understand how we got to today.

Just one image of Baghdad during the US war on terror

Where is there any criticism for a war machine that deliberately places families and hospitals on top of rocket supplies so that the people they attack relentlessly year on year are forced to kill the innocent to eradicate rockets that have been created to kill Jews?

I'm not Jewish and what they have done in the West Bank since soon after Israel was created is completely wrong.

But there seems to be zero understanding among most of the westerners supporting Gazans that the declared intention of Hamas, Hezbollah and other Iranian financed terrorists is to wipe the Israelis off the face of the planet.

That's what "From the river to the sea" means. Not "Palestinians shall be free", but "Palestinians shall be free of Jews".