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Conflict in the Middle East

Feel like once the hostages are handed over Israel will start bombing again

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Wakeuplittlebunnies · 10/10/2025 06:50

It seems too good to be true, a final end to the war.

After all the plans that were announced with regards to annexation and the Israeli far-right government members, I can’t help but feel that once all of the hostages are released Israel will go ham on Gaza.

There will be nothing to stop them bombing everywhere.

No hostages to avoid bombing.

No families pleading with the Israeli ministers.

Israel has broken so many ceasefires and this was with the hostages lives at stake.

I don’t know, but I can’t celebrate with everyone as I don’t believe it will last and my heart says that’s it’s going to get worse.

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SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 12:47

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 11:57

I think everyone is praying that Israel will stop and Palestine can be given resources and time to find its feet. It will be a miracle if Netanyahu stops though. Is the aide getting in again?

Can you be more precise about who in Gaza will be receiving and managing these resources, given that it's currently being run by literal armed thugs who are holding street executions?

inamarina · 15/10/2025 12:49

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 11:57

I think everyone is praying that Israel will stop and Palestine can be given resources and time to find its feet. It will be a miracle if Netanyahu stops though. Is the aide getting in again?

So you think it’s mainly Netanyahu at the moment who’s preventing Gazans from finding their feet?
Not Hamas rounding up and publicly executing people?

Twiglets1 · 15/10/2025 12:56

Wakeuplittlebunnies · 15/10/2025 12:40

Judging by the claps and thumbs up reactions that I’m getting under my posts I think there are a lot of people who agree with me

That’s scary.

But I always get those reactions to my posts too (which some might find equally scary) so I guess it’s normal?

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 13:13

inamarina · 15/10/2025 12:49

So you think it’s mainly Netanyahu at the moment who’s preventing Gazans from finding their feet?
Not Hamas rounding up and publicly executing people?

Well it’s quite hard to find your feet when your home is rubble and aide and contact with the outside world is bottlenecked through a country bent on hobbling you isn’t it?

You may be surprised to learn that the vast majority of the world do not think slaughtering, maiming, and terrorising thousands upon thousands is a reasonable response whatever the provocation. Netanyahu and any individual who used force against the Palestinian civilians must be held accountable, why wouldn’t they be? Anyone continuing blocking aide needs dealing with first.

OnTheRoof · 15/10/2025 13:14

One of the many downsides of Hamas remaining armed and in partial control of Gaza is that it makes funding and resources for reconstruction less likely to be forthcoming.

inamarina · 15/10/2025 13:23

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 13:13

Well it’s quite hard to find your feet when your home is rubble and aide and contact with the outside world is bottlenecked through a country bent on hobbling you isn’t it?

You may be surprised to learn that the vast majority of the world do not think slaughtering, maiming, and terrorising thousands upon thousands is a reasonable response whatever the provocation. Netanyahu and any individual who used force against the Palestinian civilians must be held accountable, why wouldn’t they be? Anyone continuing blocking aide needs dealing with first.

You’re deflecting.
Hamas inflicted the war on their own people by launching a horrendous terror attack on Israel, knowing full well what the response might be, and now Hamas randomly execute people in Gaza, and still you choose to only mention Netanyahu in your pp, and not Hamas.

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 13:34

inamarina · 15/10/2025 13:23

You’re deflecting.
Hamas inflicted the war on their own people by launching a horrendous terror attack on Israel, knowing full well what the response might be, and now Hamas randomly execute people in Gaza, and still you choose to only mention Netanyahu in your pp, and not Hamas.

Nobody surely could have predicted the genocide?

inamarina · 15/10/2025 13:36

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 13:34

Nobody surely could have predicted the genocide?

What do you think Hamas expected to happen after launching the October 7th attack and promising to repeat it?

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 13:40

inamarina · 15/10/2025 13:36

What do you think Hamas expected to happen after launching the October 7th attack and promising to repeat it?

What do you think IDF expected to happen after the genocide?

SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 13:52

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 13:34

Nobody surely could have predicted the genocide?

Please note that you saying "the genocide" like it's a fact doesn't make it so.
Of course everyone could predict that Israel would retaliate, and given that Hamas is so embedded in civilian infrastructure, a blind man could have seen from space that there would be a lot of damage.

inamarina · 15/10/2025 14:08

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 13:40

What do you think IDF expected to happen after the genocide?

Hamas attacked first, and genocide hasn’t been confirmed, so there’s that.

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 14:51

I think it has been accepted that it is genocide, but we could call it The Slaughter if that sits better????

i think Israel fail to understand that the rest of the world counts every Palestinian life as precious. We do not subscribe to the idea that Israel had to kill thousands of children and civilians, nor to the idea that blocking aide is ever acceptable.

EasternStandard · 15/10/2025 14:51

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 13:13

Well it’s quite hard to find your feet when your home is rubble and aide and contact with the outside world is bottlenecked through a country bent on hobbling you isn’t it?

You may be surprised to learn that the vast majority of the world do not think slaughtering, maiming, and terrorising thousands upon thousands is a reasonable response whatever the provocation. Netanyahu and any individual who used force against the Palestinian civilians must be held accountable, why wouldn’t they be? Anyone continuing blocking aide needs dealing with first.

What do think will happen, will Hamas just hand over their weapons?

It’ll be hard for people to go in to rebuild if they are still in control.

SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 15:00

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 14:51

I think it has been accepted that it is genocide, but we could call it The Slaughter if that sits better????

i think Israel fail to understand that the rest of the world counts every Palestinian life as precious. We do not subscribe to the idea that Israel had to kill thousands of children and civilians, nor to the idea that blocking aide is ever acceptable.

It has not. We can call it an armed conflict, as that is what is was.

But nice try deflecting from the current Hamas clusterfuck though.

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 15:03

Palestine is a state now, hopefully they will be allowed to manage their own recovery. They could manage that with support from the international community. Those who have committed atrocities should be tried and reparations made for the destruction. The UN could take an active role in that process.

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 15:05

@SpaceRaccoon an armed conflict implies both sides bore arms against each other, I don’t think it’s how you describe the slaughter of innocent children numbering tens of thousands.

EasternStandard · 15/10/2025 15:09

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 15:03

Palestine is a state now, hopefully they will be allowed to manage their own recovery. They could manage that with support from the international community. Those who have committed atrocities should be tried and reparations made for the destruction. The UN could take an active role in that process.

Yes but how with Hamas holding weapons and power?

Or do you mean with that still in place

SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 15:14

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 15:05

@SpaceRaccoon an armed conflict implies both sides bore arms against each other, I don’t think it’s how you describe the slaughter of innocent children numbering tens of thousands.

Yes. Israel wasn't fighting itself, you know. They did lose almost a thousand soldiers in Gaza, I doubt they were killed by "innocent children".

Literally it's like people pretend Hamas doesn't exist, it's bizarre.
Who in your opinion is busy executing their opponents in the street, currently? More innocent children?

SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 15:15

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 15:03

Palestine is a state now, hopefully they will be allowed to manage their own recovery. They could manage that with support from the international community. Those who have committed atrocities should be tried and reparations made for the destruction. The UN could take an active role in that process.

And how will this be done in Gaza in it's current state, do you have any specific thoughts on navigating the fact that it's controlled by the current version of Hamas in the form of armed gangs driving around in pickups shooting people?

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 15:18

Hard changes have been made before in many places@EasternStandard Transparency about what has actually been happening and has happened, food and medicine and absolute commitment to stopping IDF/Israeli abuse of power, will calm things.

EasternStandard · 15/10/2025 15:23

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 15:18

Hard changes have been made before in many places@EasternStandard Transparency about what has actually been happening and has happened, food and medicine and absolute commitment to stopping IDF/Israeli abuse of power, will calm things.

Ik but I’m not sure what you mean here. Are you expecting hard changes to mean Hamas don’t have power and weapons or still do?

SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 15:25

I'm honestly getting a slightly surreal feeling like some posters are posting from a slightly different reality - maybe a pre-ceasefire one? One where Hamas doesn't exist?
Is this thread a merged multiverse?

PevenseygirlQQ · 15/10/2025 15:46

SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 15:25

I'm honestly getting a slightly surreal feeling like some posters are posting from a slightly different reality - maybe a pre-ceasefire one? One where Hamas doesn't exist?
Is this thread a merged multiverse?

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I don’t think people are pretending Hamas don’t exist, I think they want to make you see that Israel are not that nice or good.

I think Hamas have to go absolutely, do I think Palestine should be governed by the likes of Trump and Blair, hell no. I don’t think Israel should have any say in what happens to Palestine when Hamas are gone. Hamas need to be trialled and put away for life

If Hamas go and there is an actual decent human being(s) in charge Palestine and the Palestinians might have a chance, where you would find someone, who knows.

Israel are not blameless either, the war criminal Netanyahu needs to be held accountable for his war crimes and for the fraud charges, and the things they have done to Palestinians are unforgivable, just like the things Hamas have done. The Israeli government wants to eradicate Palestinians just as much as Hamas want to eradicate Jews. Both sides have been documented saying heinous things and IMO they are both sides of the same coin.

Israeli need to keep out of the west bank also, “settlers” should not be allowed to take peoples homes and terrorise Palestinians, they have no claims to anyone else's home, Palestinian or not.

Netanyahu doesn’t want ceasefire, nor does he give a shit about the hostages, he wants the Gazan land all to himself so he and the likes of Trump can get even richer.

Hamas doesn’t want a ceasefire because they want to take all of Israels land and continue to reign over innocent Palestinians with their terror.

AmIthatSpringy · 15/10/2025 15:51

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 14:51

I think it has been accepted that it is genocide, but we could call it The Slaughter if that sits better????

i think Israel fail to understand that the rest of the world counts every Palestinian life as precious. We do not subscribe to the idea that Israel had to kill thousands of children and civilians, nor to the idea that blocking aide is ever acceptable.

Every Palestinian life is precious?

really?

every one?

including the terrorists?