Feel like once the hostages are handed over Israel will start bombing again

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It seems too good to be true, a final end to the war.

After all the plans that were announced with regards to annexation and the Israeli far-right government members, I can’t help but feel that once all of the hostages are released Israel will go ham on Gaza.

There will be nothing to stop them bombing everywhere.

No hostages to avoid bombing.

No families pleading with the Israeli ministers.

Israel has broken so many ceasefires and this was with the hostages lives at stake.

I don’t know, but I can’t celebrate with everyone as I don’t believe it will last and my heart says that’s it’s going to get worse.

“I’m not doing the work for people anymore” = I’m not going to provide evidence for things I say = people shouldn’t take me seriously.

If what you are saying is true, then you should want to be taken seriously.

People asking for evidence of your claims isn’t a bad thing.

I hope it lasts, it is a huge step in the right direction.

To respond to the OP -

I'm praying peace will hold 🙏
But I don't trust Netanyahu one bit. I really hope I'm wrong.

Making excuses for the abusers of children is a new low for the extreme pro-Israel folks on here. Shame on you
Why can't you just have balance, and acknowledge that the Israeli government and military are guilty of human rights abuses? Doesn't make someone antisemitic or even anti-Israel to recognise that fact.

I don't think all Israeli actions are perfect, but given the level of terrorism and hostility they deal with, including suicide bombings, I can entirely see that these protocols are necessary and attempting to frame them as "sexual abuse" is blatant propaganda.

Save the Children exists to protect children, not to spread propaganda.

I've never come across a 'pro-Israel' poster on here that thought Israel could do no wrong. I know people think if they keep saying it someone will believe it but I'm sure sensible people will have noticed that many loosely pro-Israel people are actually quite critical of the Israel government.

I for one condemn any sexual violence and abuse anywhere but I'm not really engaging with anyone who refers to 'the Zionists'. Thats a conversation killer for me.

If people refuse to show evidence for what they are saying I assume these days that they got their information from some guy on TikTok or Reddit.

Save the Children exists to protect children, not to spread propaganda.

Forgive me if I'm dubious about international NGOs after the Amnesty nonsense.

Agreed, none of the NGOs are automatically reliable, unbiased, or above suspicion in all areas. Remember Oxfam in Haiti?

@SharonEllis I used the term 'the Zionists' to refer to the very pro Israel posters on here. I obviously didn't mean all Zionists everywhere.
I agree it was a sloppy use of language, and I shouldn't have used those words. I actually thought that myself, immediately after posting. I apologise for that. The rest of my post stands. It was a long post, and to disregard all of it purely on the basis two words near the end is unfortunate. It should have been clear from my post that I oppose prejudice and violence on both sides. People often accidentally use the wrong words, but the context and intentions are important.

I really feel for the Palestinian people left under Hamas, it wasn't nice for Catholic families living under the IRA. Living in fear of being accused of being a rat. Street justice.

They were puppies in comparison to Hamas.
I assume troops on the ground will go in, many Israeli troops cannot tell the difference between Hamas and innocent citizens, while Hamas are determined to find snitches, the citizens sitting in rubble must be petrified from all sides.

Yes, I feel desperately sorry for ordinary Palestinians. I don't know how much more they can be expected to endure. Abused by both the Israeli military, and by Hamas. Poor souls 😔

I understand (it was on BBC news this morning) that Hamas have only returned 4 of the 28 dead bodies of hostages and have been given a deadline to return the remaining bodies as agreed in the ceasefire plan.

Yet Hamas continue to have the support of many Palestinians, the vast majority don’t believe Hamas carried out any atrocities on October 7. They continue to view the West as a whole as the enemy, https://www.pcpsr.org/en/node/997

Women are treated appallingly by the general population http://www.mdgfund.org/node/3608

treatment of gay men in Gaza - engaging in homosexual activity carries a prison sentence of 10 years (although rather more summary justice is dispatched by the population/families).

Have we not been telling you for years that Palestinian civilians are vulnerable to Hamas?
Sorry could you point out where I or anyone else on here ever said Hamas were positive for Palestinians? Stop being so patronising and displaying such black and white thinking. I know Hamas were not good for Gaza I also know that the IDF and the Israeli government are not good for Gaza, especially Palestininan children in Gaza, both can be true. When I am talking about vulnerable Palestinians I am talking about the people there now today living in tents, displaced, traumatised, digging in the rubble for what remains of the bodies of their love ones, with no functioning medical facilities, no homes, no functioning schools, universities, jobs, etc etc you know the things we need to live and survive. I am talking about the aftermath, I am talking about securing the strip and rebuilding and protecting civilians from civil unrest and gangs lobbying for power and the IDF.

Gotta say, I missed the marches for peacekeepers to go in and save Palestinians from Hamas. But do let us know when thr next one is.

Maybe finally admit that people actually cared about Palestinians and what happens to them it is not about hating jews is it? It is about humanity. Is it disappointing to you that now there is a ceasefire pro Palestinians don't just stop caring because Israel aren't bombing and killing them any more? Did you realIy believe that people wouldn't want to see medical, practical and psychological support, peacekeepers and rebuilding? In your words Make it make some fucking sense.

the vast majority don’t believe Hamas carried out any atrocities on October 7
Sorry the vast majority? Have you anything to back up such an inflammatory statement?

Maybe instead of angrily tapping your keyboard read the attachments to my post,

“Indeed, almost 90% of the public believes Hamas men did not commit the atrocities depicted in videos taken on that day [Oct 7].

I didn't disregard it on the basis of two words. There were quite a lot of other red flags - lumping all 'pro-Israeli' posters together, suggesting that collectively we think Israel can do no wrong when that is obviously untrue. But above all that collectively 'human rights organisations and Save the Children' are unbiased, and their investigations 'should absolutely be accepted as truth' ? When we have seen so many issues with reliability, bias and bad behaviour. In the context of your point, for example, the sexual exploitation scandal and cover up conducted by Oxfam in Haiti? No organisation should be automatically accepted as without bias or reliable.

You have missed the point really.

@SharonEllis I just read my post back, and realise I said 'some of the Zionists '. So, that's quite different from saying 'the Zionists', without the some caveat. I should have just said some Zionists, and omitted the word 'the'. But it's obvious what I meant, and that I meant no offence.

@PotatoesandOatsforlife you probably regard me as very "pro Israel" but let me assure you I definitely don't think that Israel can do " no wrong".

Off the top of my head, some things I have criticised Israel for on this board:
The Settlers
Netanyahu & his government endorsing a plan to increase the settlements
Humanitarian aid being paused for 2 months
The failure of the GHF to properly address the needs of Gazans with them being dangerous and too few sites.
Netanyahu not reigning in or firing some of his more extreme ministers.

What have you criticised the Palestinian government for? I'm not even familiar with your username but you seem to know all about the "Zionists" on here. A term by the way, that I didn't even know the meaning of until fairly recently and being educated on it by some on this board.

Sorry, no, loose use of the term 'zionists' doesn't get a pass.

If someone drops the word 'Zionists' in, one wonders what exactly they've been reading.

It's not a word used in normal political discourse about this topic, but one used by screaming lunatics who use 'Zionist' as a synonym for 'big fan of Netanyahu', 'worst person alive' and often as a codeword for 'Jew'. None of which are the actual meaning of Zionist.