Feel like once the hostages are handed over Israel will start bombing again

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It seems too good to be true, a final end to the war.

After all the plans that were announced with regards to annexation and the Israeli far-right government members, I can’t help but feel that once all of the hostages are released Israel will go ham on Gaza.

There will be nothing to stop them bombing everywhere.

No hostages to avoid bombing.

No families pleading with the Israeli ministers.

Israel has broken so many ceasefires and this was with the hostages lives at stake.

I don’t know, but I can’t celebrate with everyone as I don’t believe it will last and my heart says that’s it’s going to get worse.

Exactly.

As always, theres enough to criticize using correct words- no need to twist meanings to make a point.

Well said @dairydebris

'Words have meaning' and some people think that the word hostage applies to some Palestinian detainees under International law.

Explaining why she calls many Palestinians in Israeli custody hostages, Albanese says:
“They are often unlawfully seized and detained, although they are uninvolved civilians. They are used by Israel to compel the Palestinians as a whole to act in a given way or to refrain from acting. The ultimate goal is to curb the possibility for the Palestinians to resist.
“They are hostages because they are persons uninvolved. They are uninvolved in situations of combat and unlawfully seized and detained as part of Israel's expectation to push the Palestinians to do or not to do (something), to leave, ultimately, the occupied Palestinian territory.”
While the Israeli authorities don’t issue explicit demands in the same way that Hamas did in relation to their hostages, international law does not require there to be an overt demand in order for captives to be seen as hostages.
As defined in the International Convention against the Taking of Hostages, the crime can be committed in order to compel another party “to do or abstain from doing any act as an explicit or implicit condition for the release of the hostage”.
“It doesn't need to be that explicit,” says Albanese.

This. Hope it holds.

This is why the Palestinian people need Hamas gone with an international (perhaps Arab countries peace keeping force) to keep order. Palestinians are now killing each other. If only the innocents could be moved out of the way whilst Hamas and other gangs fight. Its an awful situation.

There is a leadership vacuum and Hamas want to keep power.

Nah. He'll talk tough but continue to support militarily and politically while bragging about how great he is.

This wasn't just a conversation about prisoners of war, and I've not mentioned that term at all.

The idea that these are people being held (without charge) because they're under suspicion of offences is just fanciful. You might hope that that's the reason for them being kidnapped, but you've got no evidence of it. If they were suspected of committing offences then they should be bought before an independent court. So legally, these are innocent people that have been kidnapped by the IDF.

Of course they won't. They've never called for Hamas to go. Now Hamas are killing anyone who they think is against them. Sadly, good Palestinian people who want Hamas gone are likely to be executed by Hamas who want to stay in charge. Hamas dont want good things, peace, and their people to prosper like Israel they only do hatred and killing.

Poor sods.

So which person can you name whos being held by Israel despite not being suspected of a crime?

Or is that your assumption?

I can name people held by Israel who are suspected / convicted of crimes. You can Google it.

Some guilty. Some not. You are not in a position to judge which is these detainees is innocent and illegally detained, and which are guilty. Neither am I, and I wouldn't presume to do so.

Whereas every single one of those hostages taken by Hamas is 100% innocent and not accused of anything at all.

Not the same group.

Honestly im not getting into it anymore with you. I know your opinions. I just hope others can see the difference.

Bring them home today! 🎗🎗🎗🎗🎗

Strangely enough, I don't have access to the list of approximately 1,700 innocent people that have not even been charged with an offence that have been held by Israel that are being released today.

That's in addition to the ones that have been convicted of offences by a court system that would not be judged as fair in the UK.

But the 1700 are legally innocent. Their stats as detainees under administrative detention is evidence of that. I don't need to prove their guilt or prove their suspicion, heck, even Israel hasn't bothered to do that, it's just kept them locked up.

Hamas have permission from Trump to do this apparently.

Anyone got any links to Hamas threatening gazans?

When Trump and Netanyahu are in favour of something, you know it’ll never go well for ordinary people.

To Netenyahu has been funding the militias.

Meanwhile Trump, his mate, gives Hamas the green light to re-arm, to try to gain control of the population.

And then we wonder why things are very volatile on the ground.

I mean, they need to stop killing eachother and work together, but let's not pretend that this wasn't intended.

Not sure who funds the clans. Iran funds Hamas. Clans v Hamas clashes. People stuck in middle.

So now its Palestinian killing Palestinian people in pursuit of who will hold power.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg5e551j593o.amp

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/10/12/middleeast/gaza-hamas-security-war-intl

Sadly, if Hamas says the people they are killing are 'collaborators', 'informants' or gangs or clans then obviously some will believe them because Hamas never lies. Bit like The Taliban. Kill anyone they want or they think is against them. From war back to terrorist rule.

Seeing as its now back to Hamas killing and oppressing Gazans I'm planning on attending the march to free Gaza from Hamas on Saturday.
Can anyone let me know where and when it is?

A bit like when Sudanese kill Sudanese, or Lebanese or Yemenis etc etc thats not worthy of anything

Indeed.

12th Never

Hurrah for the hostages being back. It must be a great relief for them.

Can the IDF now please stop firing tear gas and rubber bullets at excited family members awaiting the release of Palestinians! The majority released have not been convicted of any offence and the families deserve their celebration, not to be shot.

There are buildings still standing. I read an article just yesterday about a woman living on one of the upper floors in an apartment block.
Think I found that article you were referring to here. You weren't entirely truthful in your account of it. For one who likes to stick to the facts it's surprising 🤔

The Skeik building itself is still standing, but its walls are now splattered by shrapnel and a large artillery-sized hole has punched through an upper floor. Its pre-war faces replaced by an ever-changing confetti of displaced people.

"The people who were here before us left because it was dangerous," Hadeel said. "Shrapnel hits the walls here, but it's still better than a tent."

It's a good example of a "damaged" building that is clearly structurally unsound and not safe for habitation but in the families words "better than a tent". Sad you read that article and your only take from it is
A woman living on one of the upper floors in an apartment block
Good example of the minimising posters were referring to.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy4jz7l7qv8o

Yes this is who has been backing the militia
https://news.sky.com/story/guns-cash-and-american-aid-investigation-reveals-israels-support-for-gaza-militia-13442260

In 10 years time when we are back here again with the militia Israel created turning on their occupational overlords everyone will act all wide eyed, wondering how history just keeps repeating itself over and over again. Why won't those people living under violent occupation just submit, it's a mystery, the only solution is obviously to bomb the crap out of them again.

It's incredibly sad for Palestinians but this 'peace deal' is just a reset on the cycle of violence. Until governments hold Israel to account and make their illegal occupation hurt their citizens rather than benefit them there won't be peace for Palestinians or Israelis.

Israel having had to put security measures in place to prevent Palestinians trying to and succeeding in killing their citizens, (which is basically what the so-called occupation is as the Palestinians have rejected all opportunities to create their own State preferring to put their efforts into the annihilation of the sovereign State next door), has still hurt their citizens because thousands of Israelis have still been murdered and taken hostage.

That would have been the tip of the iceberg WITHOUT the ‘occupation’, so it sounds to me like you want more Oct 7ths which the Palestinians have vowed to carry out again, and again?

Can you clarify that?

I suppose it does benefit Israelis that they are not being constantly murdered in rocket and terrorists attacks, and Israel still exists.

How else do you think Israeli citizens benefit from Israel having security measures to minimise the attempts to slaughter them?