Central Bank of Ireland confirms it will no longer approve sale of Israeli ‘war bonds’

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Good news. Political pressure, protests and letters beginning to work

www.irishtimes.com/business/2025/09/01/israel-to-market-war-bonds-through-luxembourg-as-irish-authority-expires/

“You are dismissing the flag. You said it was a just a piece of cloth and said 'give me strength'. Would you say to a black person in america dont let the confederate flag bother you, its just a bit of cloth? Or perhaps a burning cross, just a bit of wood?
The PFLP is viscious extreme antisemitic organisation, responsible for numerous murders and particularly noted for its plane hijackings. It does not recognise Israel. It is proscribed by the EU and the US. Supporti g it is illegal but more important its obviously designed to intimidate Jews and cannot be anything other than antisemitic.”

Well I agree with you 100% on the PFLP flag, but that’s not the same flag as a Palestinian Flag… you would avoid a lot of disagreement if you specified which flag walking by every day was horrific from the start, I like others thought you meant the Palestinian flag.

Finance Minister of the Israeli Cabinet, Smotrich has publicly said “burning Gaza” is all part of a “demolition phase” after Palestinians would be expelled to “third countries” and then the area redeveloped and settled by Jewish Israelis.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y59z6rznvo

”Speaking at an event in Tel Aviv, he said "a business plan is on President Trump's table".
"We've done the demolition phase... Now we need to build," he said.
In February, Donald Trump floated plans for the US to take "a long-term ownership position" over Gaza, saying it could be the "Riviera of the Middle East".

“We paid a lot of money for this war," said Smotrich. "So we need to divide how we make a percentage on the land marketing later".
Smotrich, leader of Israel's Religious Zionist party, is an ultranationalist who has been sanctioned by the UK and other countries over repeated incitements of violenceagainst Palestinians.

I disagree it is level of interest that leads to protest.

For example, we are very interested in the Ukraine and the threat of Putin, however our Government from Day 1 has reacted in a way that the vast majority agree with, so there is no need to protest.

This applies to all issues of high interest. Lack of protest indicates agreement/lack of disagreement, not lack of interest.

( There are minor exclusions- ie in the case of protest against disability benefit cuts, the lack of protest could also be due to lack of ability to mobilise into street protests rather than lack of interest or lack of disagreement.)

Protest (it’s in the word) is based on how much a large minority to a majority of the populace disagree with what an authority, usually the government, are doing.

Many of those protesting the proscription of Palestine Action are protesting the misuse of Terror legislation as curbing free speech and our right to protest. Some of them disagree with Palestine Action but disagree with proscribing a political activist group as it conflates vandalism with terrorism.

Your personal feelings about flags are all very intetesting but don't invalidate the experience of others who find them intimidating and symptomatic of wider prejudice. To compare the experience of Jewish people in the diaspora with the conflict is just not relevant. Lots of things in the world are worse than walking past a flag. Jewish people in Ireland are as entitled as anyone else to live unharassed and intimidated regardless of what Israel does.

As you have chosen to quote me without tagging me people can't see the original context. The flag in question.was the PFLP flag and also included, by the way, an image of Leila Khaled (do look her up). A Jewish person is entirely entitled to feel threatened by a flag that represents a movement that has in the past and continues to present an real existential threat. I cant imagine why you and others would dismiss or minimise it. But its useful for people to see you doing it.

The PFLP came to prominence with notorious plane hijackings. Some of their more recent activities, from wiki.

• The PFLP claimed responsibility for the November 2014 Jerusalem Synagogue massacre in which four Jewish worshippers and a policeman were killed with axes, knives, and a gun, while seven were injured.
• On 29 June 2015, the PFLP claimed responsibility for an attack in which Palestinians in a vehicle fired on a passing Israeli car. Four people were injured; one was severely injured and died the next day in hospital.
• Israeli police suspect the PFLP to be responsible for the 2019 murder of Israeli teenager Rina Shnerb.
• Gaza war (2023–present): the Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades published videos of it storming Israeli watchtowers during the October 7 attacks and has since fought alongside Hamas and other allied factions in multiple battles inside the Gaza Strip.

How threatened are Palestinian civilians feeling at the moment? You say you are “highly attuned “” to racism yet you cannot acknowlege Israel’s apartheid ? Rules and practices that have been in place for decades well before October 7th. You accuse everyone on this thread of antisemitism and bias you might want to do a deep dive on your own prejudices

Who are you talking to? You need to quote people if you are quoting something they said or supposedly said.

You’re all very busy on the other threads… just wondering when you’ll get back to me on this?

Still nothing to say about this @Twiglets1 ?

It would appear as if some posters are still prepared to die on their own sword and throw up any old source written by any old kook to prove that they were right, rather than admit to being the bigger person and saying that maybe they backed the wrong horse and they are in fact wrong. Never mind. Just the country of Palestine and its population lost in the meantime.

Yes, lots of threads being made ‘look over here!’

lest we focus on this:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y59z6rznvo.amp

lest we focus on this:

Damaged, remember. Not destroyed

I did specify which flag. You just didnt follow the conversation.

You don't know the difference? Try contacting your insurers and telling them your house has been destroyed when its only been damaged. You'll suddenly find the distinction is quite significant.

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You'll suddenly find the distinction is quite significant.
It really isn't. If it is structurally unsound it will be destroyed anyway so no difference. Many images of rubble with structurally unsound buildings standing in the middle of it. None of it habitable.

Should the people of Gaza then submit claims for damage or destruction? And who to?

hamas.
Apparently they've been investing billions in aid for just such an eventuality.

For themselves maybe, meanwhile the Palestinians?

Hamas run the Gaza Strip and also triggered this current conflict so I guess they should have a plan?

It would be great if they did, save other countries having to get involved in rebuilding Gaza who - let’s face it, won’t do it for nothing.

Hamas have investments in Turkey & Qatar, perhaps some pressure can be exerted to make them do the right thing for Gazans for a change.

Oh yes, they've got lots of money. And won't be needing it for building more tunnels underground so maybe they could contribute to building work above ground.

Israel have routinely destroyed Gaza’s infrastructure in the past, so maybe they could advise what their plan is this time to replace the hospitals, schools, universities sanitation plants and housing they have destroyed or is it to be left up to the UN with funding from all of us again.

Why don't you include Hamas in your list of all those you think may be asked to pay for it? The IDF wouldn't have caused all this damage if Hamas hadn't started the current conflict or had agreed all Netanyahu's terms for a ceasefire months ago.

Normally the side that loses a war loses land and has to pay a lot to rebuild the country.

Again as someone said earlier a war?
@Twiglets1 I think you have misspelled genocide

perhaps you could set up some sort of auto reply to say “but Hamas” every time someone posts about the 20,000 children at least that Israel has killed, the destruction they have brought to Gaza and the horrifying total of innocent civilians they have bombed, burnt and maimed

According to the UK government there is not sufficient evidence to classify it as a genocide at the current time.

I will call it a genocide when the UK government does so as that will tell me there is sufficient evidence we as ordinary citizens are not privy to.