Central Bank of Ireland confirms it will no longer approve sale of Israeli ‘war bonds’

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Good news. Political pressure, protests and letters beginning to work

www.irishtimes.com/business/2025/09/01/israel-to-market-war-bonds-through-luxembourg-as-irish-authority-expires/

Not permitted to say “do Palestinians not count? To someone who accuses people even entire states of exhibiting antisemitism for expressing opposition to genocide ??

Or was it that they are continually aiming to undermine/shutdown valid criticism of a documented genocide?

Why is it spreading propaganda to state that there are still 2-3,000 Hamas militants remaining in Gaza city according to the IDF? That's just reporting the numbers that the IDF have estimated. Media sources are reporting it, it's not just numbers I have made up.

Boris hasn't answered (or anyone else) about what would your military strategy be to get rid of Hamas.

@Twiglets1 you never answered the post above, any thoughts?

No it was a ridiculous post.

The idea that Ireland is a pariah state is absolutely laughable.

The accusation of antisemitism in order to shut down any criticism of the actions of the state of Israel doesn't work any more.

Why so?

Over 45,000 babies and children have lost at least one limb.

Gaza has the most child amputees in modern history.

@Twiglets1

• Use intelligence-led, surgical operations and arrests of known commanders, not area bombardment.
• Prioritise hostage-first deals with phased exchanges and international monitors.
• Interdict weapons, finance and smuggling routes with international cooperation rather than punishing civilians.
• Use cyber and surveillance to disrupt command-and-control instead of carpet-bombing.
• Back reconstruction and credible local governance so communities aren’t left as vacuums militants fill.
• Ramp up finely-targeted, intelligence-led arrests/raids of identified commanders rather than broad area bombardment.
• Use covert intelligence, cyber-disruption and SIGINT to degrade command-and-control and weapon networks.
• Cut Hamas’s finance and logistics via coordinated international sanctions and interdiction (banks, smugglers, supply chains).
• Leverage regional partners (Egypt, Qatar, Turkey, Arab states) to pressure or entice Hamas leadership into demobilisation or exile.
• Open fully-secured humanitarian corridors and safe zones under UN/ICRC supervision before any further operations.
• Allow independent, sustained humanitarian access (food, fuel, medical supplies, formula) with international distribution oversight.
• Deploy specialised small-unit operations and surgical strikes based on verified human intelligence- not area bombing- with realtime legal/medical oversight.
• Use engineering solutions to neutralise tunnels (mapping, targeted collapse, sealing) rather than indiscriminate aerial bombardment of populated areas.
• Institute temporary international peacekeeping or observer forces around evacuation/aid sites to protect civilians.
• Commit to independent, transparent investigations of alleged unlawful strikes and hold perpetrators accountable.
• Offer tangible political incentives (resettlement, pardons, safe passage) to encourage armed leaders to lay down arms.
• Prioritise public-health interventions (restore electricity to hospitals, clear medical supply routes, permit medevac) to limit civilian suffering during operations.
• Combine military pressure with a clear, verifiable roadmap for post-conflict security and civilian protection- otherwise any “victory” breeds future cycles of violence.

ChatGPT?

If your only reply is “ChatGPT” rather than addressing the facts- it looks like you don’t have a counter-argument.

I can’t be bothered to read ChatGPT answers so if you want to engage with me use your own words.

Then again, your own response was completely unrelated to the question, so in a way, ChatGPT did better.

@Twiglets1 Reading through the ai list, from interviews I've seen most of those have been and are being used (I've heard complaints about their use too) but like most I rely on info. in the public domain.....in a war zone.

Classic deflection.

Fine, all in my own words then: Israel could have used intelligence-led, targeted operations and humanitarian-first approaches instead of levelling Gaza/selling it off as real-estate and starving civilians. That’s my position. How would you address that?

Can you provide evidence that most of those have been and are being used.

It’s not “classic deflection”.

I asked you a simple question- what would your military strategy be to get rid of Hamas?

You then accuse me of not having a “counter argument” which makes no sense as I just asked you a question.

I still don’t think you’ve answered how specifically you would deal with the issue of getting rid of Hamas from Gaza. I agree a more humanitarian emphasis should have been adopted in the war for example, but that wouldn’t have helped destroy Hamas would it?

I’ve addressed the question twice already. Repeating it and pretending I haven’t answered isn’t a discussion- it’s a tactic to deflect from the central issue: Israel’s military strategy has caused catastrophic, unnecessary civilian suffering.

Interested to hear your thoughts on this too!

Exactly right. Zionism is a lot more than @SharonEllis is acknowledging.

It is akin to saying that feminism only means the liberation of women and anyone critical of feminism today is a misogynist.

(I say this as a Jewish woman who was raised by Zionists but is firmly anti Zionist because of what the Zionist movement have become today.)

I wonder at what point you would start protesting the UK Government’s condemnation of Israel’s military actions? It appears to me that they have shifted from unflinching support with mere cautions to follow international law to calling for Israel to immediately end the war, stop restricting humanitarian aid, have condemned their strikes on healthcare in Gaza, on Qatar and have said they will recognise the Palestinian state this weekend.

Are you saying it is the only conflict you are interested in? How would you know what conflicts everyone else are or are not interested in? Protests are not an indication of interest but rather an indication of mass objection to how governments are reacting to conflicts.

To have to daily walk past a flag which represents people who want to kill you and have actively particpated in the murder of Jewish people because they are Jewish, is horrific.

This is how I feel about the St George flags all up and down my high street as that flag represents the many massacres of us in jolly old England. I don’t feel the same about the Union Jack though as that flag liberated the concentration camps in Nazi Germany.

I also feel the same horror and disgust for the Nazi, Hamas and ISIS flags, but not about the Palestinian flag. I haven’t seen any of these flags recently.

However, my feelings about different flags that represent past or potential geocides are not as horrific as actual genocide unfolding.

I don't personally accept that Israel are carrying out genocide but the IDF are killing thousands of Palestinian citizens. This would stop if Hamas would agree to release the hostages, disarm and leave Gaza.

This already happened. The ceasefire this Jan 25 to Mar 25 required the release of all hostages and for Hamas to relinquish Gaza to the Palestinian Authority. Hamas would cease to exist. Sort of like when Israel was founded the Irgun terrorist militia agreed to be absorbed into the IDF.

Unfortunately, Israel unilaterally broke the ceasefire despite zero Hamas violations of it and continued their starvation and bombardment of the Gaza Strip. This has unnecessarily endangered the hostages who would have been home months ago by now and so many who have been killed Jewish, Muslim and Christians would still be alive.

Hamas did agree and released every hostage required by every ceasefire agreement. Israel just bombed Hamas and Qatari negotiators in Qatar while they were going through a US ceasefire proposal- that is a totally abhorrent example of not negotiating for peace in good faith. It is an example which is far worse than any violation of past ceasefires or peace negotiations by Hamas.

I agree with you on 7/10. It’s nonsense to say it’s the victims fault they were attacked. This counts for Israeli civilians and for Palestinian civilians.

...by those who are interested enough to get involved. UK population is allegedly 70million, they're not all protesting, not even protesting the same thing.