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IDF bombs Nasser hospital and then bombs the rescue worker a second time.

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Kakeandkake · 25/08/2025 11:51

It is so sickening that they continue to act with such impunity. The bombed the hospital killing four journalists and THEN struck a second time killing the rescue workers who were trying to retrieve the bodies of the dead and injured.

The genocide continues in plain sight.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp89rp48246o

An injured emergency worker is led away by two other emergency workers. There is rubble and wreckage behind them. He is badly hurt.

Four journalists among 15 killed in Israeli strike on hospital, Gaza officials say

The strikes on Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis are said to have killed journalists working for international media.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp89rp48246o

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Kakeandkake · 31/08/2025 09:38

Gloriia · 31/08/2025 09:27

Yes they should ring hamas up and ask them to remove their surveillance cameras. They should also ring them up and ask them to release the hostages.

I don't think these phone requests work tbh.

The only camera seen in the footage of the strike was the reuters camera. When this was pointed out to the IDF they didnt say there was any other camera nor provide evidence for it.

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Kakeandkake · 31/08/2025 09:39

Kakeandkake · 31/08/2025 09:38

The only camera seen in the footage of the strike was the reuters camera. When this was pointed out to the IDF they didnt say there was any other camera nor provide evidence for it.

And this camera had been live streaming from there for a few weeks. The IDF say the reuters journalist was not a strike so the logical course of action would have been to ask him to remove his camera if they had doubts about it.

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Twiglets1 · 31/08/2025 09:53

Kakeandkake · 31/08/2025 09:38

The only camera seen in the footage of the strike was the reuters camera. When this was pointed out to the IDF they didnt say there was any other camera nor provide evidence for it.

I believe the IDF argument is that Hamas operatives were sometimes using the Reuters camera and being allowed to do so.

It is quite confusing though … a lot for the courts to try to unravel.

Kakeandkake · 31/08/2025 10:15

Twiglets1 · 31/08/2025 09:53

I believe the IDF argument is that Hamas operatives were sometimes using the Reuters camera and being allowed to do so.

It is quite confusing though … a lot for the courts to try to unravel.

I haven't seen the IDF present that argument anywhere that Hamas were using the reuters camera. Can I ask where you read this please?

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Twiglets1 · 31/08/2025 10:19

Kakeandkake · 31/08/2025 10:15

I haven't seen the IDF present that argument anywhere that Hamas were using the reuters camera. Can I ask where you read this please?

Sorry I can’t remember where I read it.

Kakeandkake · 31/08/2025 10:21

Twiglets1 · 31/08/2025 10:19

Sorry I can’t remember where I read it.

I have had another look and still can't find it. I'm not saying you made it up but it might just be something someone thought was a reason - not something the IDF have claimed themselves.

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Kakeandkake · 31/08/2025 10:23

I think thats a huge allegation to make both against reuters and their murdered journalist to say they were allowing Hamas to use their camera. It would have been headline news.

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Kakeandkake · 31/08/2025 10:31

A huge allegation for the IDF to make. They can't just go around throwing such accusations without any proof.

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Twiglets1 · 31/08/2025 10:32

Kakeandkake · 31/08/2025 10:23

I think thats a huge allegation to make both against reuters and their murdered journalist to say they were allowing Hamas to use their camera. It would have been headline news.

It wouldn’t be headline news. Especially if it’s just what the IDF think not what had been proven at this stage.

The IDF think lots of things that people shrug off because there’s no hard evidence that we know about. It’s not easy identifying truth or lies in a war zone.

This is something I believe I’ve read but won’t be wasting time looking for it as then people will say it’s irrelevant anyway as the IDF still shouldn’t have bombed the hospital.

I could be remembering incorrectly, that’s possible too. If I come across the article I read it in at some point I’ll try to remember to tag you. Though it still won’t be “evidence” as such.

PaxAeterna · 31/08/2025 10:40

Here’s the BBC verify article about 4 strikes.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly6lxn1l4po.amp

From this I think the Israeli response is claiming tragic mistake rather than saying they were working within international law.

Rescue workers aid a man after the strike on Gaza's Nasser Hospital. The man has blood on his face while a rescue workers is wearing his-vis vests and helmet.

New footage shows Israel struck Gaza's Nasser Hospital four times - BBC News

New footage has revealed that two more strikes were carried out on hospital by Israel than initially reported.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly6lxn1l4po.amp

PaxAeterna · 31/08/2025 10:41

Isn’t it wild that their “mistakes” hit exactly where journalists and hospital staff had gathered on the stairwell after the first strikes.

Kakeandkake · 31/08/2025 10:44

Twiglets1 · 31/08/2025 10:32

It wouldn’t be headline news. Especially if it’s just what the IDF think not what had been proven at this stage.

The IDF think lots of things that people shrug off because there’s no hard evidence that we know about. It’s not easy identifying truth or lies in a war zone.

This is something I believe I’ve read but won’t be wasting time looking for it as then people will say it’s irrelevant anyway as the IDF still shouldn’t have bombed the hospital.

I could be remembering incorrectly, that’s possible too. If I come across the article I read it in at some point I’ll try to remember to tag you. Though it still won’t be “evidence” as such.

The IDF wouldn't just put out a statement to say this is what we 'think' about something as big as reuters were allowing Hamas to access their camera. I'm almost entirely convinced this is false. The IDF have said nothing of the sort.

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Twiglets1 · 31/08/2025 10:50

Kakeandkake · 31/08/2025 10:44

The IDF wouldn't just put out a statement to say this is what we 'think' about something as big as reuters were allowing Hamas to access their camera. I'm almost entirely convinced this is false. The IDF have said nothing of the sort.

I never said a statement had been made by the IDF I said I believe it is their view based on something I read… it could have been implied or I could have mistakenly thought it was implied.

It’s pointless to keep going on about this.

Kakeandkake · 31/08/2025 10:52

Twiglets1 · 31/08/2025 10:50

I never said a statement had been made by the IDF I said I believe it is their view based on something I read… it could have been implied or I could have mistakenly thought it was implied.

It’s pointless to keep going on about this.

You do realise that it's a massive allegation to make against the innocent murdered journalist. You can't just make such allegations and say well i think it's something I read but let's move on. Either provide a source or retract your allegation.

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PaxAeterna · 31/08/2025 11:03

Twiglets1 · 31/08/2025 10:32

It wouldn’t be headline news. Especially if it’s just what the IDF think not what had been proven at this stage.

The IDF think lots of things that people shrug off because there’s no hard evidence that we know about. It’s not easy identifying truth or lies in a war zone.

This is something I believe I’ve read but won’t be wasting time looking for it as then people will say it’s irrelevant anyway as the IDF still shouldn’t have bombed the hospital.

I could be remembering incorrectly, that’s possible too. If I come across the article I read it in at some point I’ll try to remember to tag you. Though it still won’t be “evidence” as such.

I think maybe you just assumed this. And it’s a fair assumption to make. But the IDF don’t seem to have said this.

www.ynetnews.com/article/hkstjpjkle#google_vignette

Here’s another article that focuses on the camera. I note that Reuters had stopped sharing the locations of journalists after so many were killed in strikes.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna227687

Reuters stopped sharing Gaza locations with Israel after IDF strikes killed 'so many journalists'

A Reuters cameraman who regularly operated its live position on the roof of Nasser Hospital was one of five journalists among 22 people killed in Israeli strikes on the facility Monday.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna227687

Hamiltonfan · 31/08/2025 11:07

MSF have now admitted that the health worker killed was a Hamas fighter. Unfortunately whilst Hamas build terror tunnels under hospitals and use the patients as human shields, these things will happen. Blame Hamas.

PaxAeterna · 31/08/2025 11:13

Have you a link for that @Hamiltonfan ? Nothing is coming up for me googling

Gloriia · 31/08/2025 11:13

Kakeandkake · 31/08/2025 10:52

You do realise that it's a massive allegation to make against the innocent murdered journalist. You can't just make such allegations and say well i think it's something I read but let's move on. Either provide a source or retract your allegation.

'Innocent murdered journalist' what like the innocent murdered journalist Anus Al Sharif taking selfies in his tent nothing to see here?

Terrorists don't wander about in their green costumes with hamas name badges on so the IDF will rely in intelligence which they obviously can't share with the BBC and Sky news.

Gloriia · 31/08/2025 11:14

Hamiltonfan · 31/08/2025 11:07

MSF have now admitted that the health worker killed was a Hamas fighter. Unfortunately whilst Hamas build terror tunnels under hospitals and use the patients as human shields, these things will happen. Blame Hamas.

Blame hamas, if only we could get that trending.

PaxAeterna · 31/08/2025 11:15

Gloriia · 31/08/2025 11:13

'Innocent murdered journalist' what like the innocent murdered journalist Anus Al Sharif taking selfies in his tent nothing to see here?

Terrorists don't wander about in their green costumes with hamas name badges on so the IDF will rely in intelligence which they obviously can't share with the BBC and Sky news.

Israel have confirmed that the journalists were not targets here. Do you not trust them?

Gloriia · 31/08/2025 11:21

It's like the hezbollah pager thing. I bet if the BBC looked into that they'd be 'no evidence' of them being terrorists they were all 'journalists and medics'. Who to believe the BBC or Mossad? Hmm its a tricky one.

PaxAeterna · 31/08/2025 11:26

Gloriia · 31/08/2025 11:21

It's like the hezbollah pager thing. I bet if the BBC looked into that they'd be 'no evidence' of them being terrorists they were all 'journalists and medics'. Who to believe the BBC or Mossad? Hmm its a tricky one.

But the IDF themselves have said the journalists were not the target?

Kakeandkake · 31/08/2025 11:43

Why are you deliberately spreading misinformation Gloriia? The IDF have said themselves he wasn't a target. Why are you spreading lies about murdered innocent Palestinian?

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Twiglets1 · 31/08/2025 11:52

Kakeandkake · 31/08/2025 10:52

You do realise that it's a massive allegation to make against the innocent murdered journalist. You can't just make such allegations and say well i think it's something I read but let's move on. Either provide a source or retract your allegation.

I will retract my post when everyone else who has posted things without providing evidence retracts theirs - how about that?

Gloriia · 31/08/2025 12:07

Kakeandkake · 31/08/2025 11:43

Why are you deliberately spreading misinformation Gloriia? The IDF have said themselves he wasn't a target. Why are you spreading lies about murdered innocent Palestinian?

My previous post was about hezbollah and the chargers incident? My point being just because terrorists don't wear name badges and aren't known to the bbc doesn't mean they aren't indeed terrorists. The very nature of their atrocity committing role means they are covert.

What we do know is there was a surveillance camera targeted. The IDF have apologised for any innocent lives lost. However there has been lots of comment about salama and his alleged involvement in Oct 7th and other terrorists killed.

https://nypost.com/2025/08/26/world-news/idf-says-deadly-attack-on-gaza-hospital-was-targeting-a-hamas-surveillance-camera/

Yes the NYP is considered right wing but let's face it Aljazeera, the UN et al are often quoted and are slightly biased to say the least.