IDF bombs Nasser hospital and then bombs the rescue worker a second time.

[Kakeandkake]

It is so sickening that they continue to act with such impunity. The bombed the hospital killing four journalists and THEN struck a second time killing the rescue workers who were trying to retrieve the bodies of the dead and injured.

The genocide continues in plain sight.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp89rp48246o

Whatever 'side' anyone is on when there are bodies in coffins then quiet and respect should be observed.

... if you are in Europe, where this is the local custom. Other places have their own traditions.

To be honest, I too read this sentence as meaning - paraphrasing here, obviously - "why can those Palestinians not just make their funerals more like European customs?", which is rude. Because prior to the interference by the police what I see is a pretty normal Palestinian (Christian; hence the coffin) funeral - and Palestinians as well as everyone else have a right, of course, to define their own cultural customs.

That said: maybe that was genuinely not the intent behind the statement; but when a poster consistently justifies the actions of the Israeli state it does predispose you to read it as "basically, the Palestinians are to blame for how they do funerals".

Ok there's no point.

You really didnt read the article. You carry on believing the IDF if it helps you feel better.

I don't 100% believe the IDF as obviously they have lied in the past. But I think they are more reliable as a source than Hamas.

Channel 12 may be completely biased I don't know - I only quoted them as a source once. I get most of my information from sources that at least try to present both sides such as the BBC, Times of Israel and the Telegraph. These sources are being honest about the fact that there are different versions of this story and it is still under investigation.

Im sure you believed them when they said they didnt murder all the medics too because why would they kill medics?

As if logic applies to the actions of the IDF who are carrying out a genocide.

Of course I read the article

Yes actually I do believe they wouldn't target medics for no reason.

That medics will get killed in a war zone is a different thing.

No there was no rudeness in the response it's just people trying to villainise anyone that supports Israel.

So read this again then. How is this deceivingly parroting Hamas propoganda.

In its statement on Tuesday, the IDF said that six of those killed were "terrorists" and part of Hamas and Islamic Jihad.
Sky News examined social media pages and obituaries for each of these six people.
We found evidence that one of those named, Omar Abu Teim, had been a combatant.
But while obituaries by family and friends of the other five individuals all reference the attack on Nasser Hospital, those for Abu Teim do not.
A neighbour and childhood friend of Abu Teim's told us he had died while taking part in an attack on a new IDF position east of Khan Younis - not at Nasser Hospital.

Image:Omar Abu Teim's neighbour told Sky News that he was killed while fighting the IDF east of Khan Younis.
A Hamas-branded obituary identifies Abu Teim as a "hero of the storming of the new site" alongside four others. Sky News has not been able to verify whether Abu Teim was formally part of Hamas or a different militant group.
Ramy Abdu of Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor told Sky News his team saw the Abu Teim family searching for their son's body the day before the hospital strike, adding that the body has still not been recovered.
Abu Teim's neighbour also said his body has not been recovered, and Gaza's health ministry told Sky News it had not received his body in any of its hospitals.
The IDF told Sky News it was examining whether Abu Teim was killed in a separate incident.
Hamas has denied that any of its fighters were killed in the attack on Nasser Hospital.

Even the IDF in light of what Sky news found have now said they are looking whether the combatant they claimed died in the strike was killed elsewhere.

But they did target the medics? They admitted that they did.

And sky news have clearly stated in the article when they were quoting what Hamas have said. Even the times of Israel and the telegraph quote Hamas. Are you saying they are also parroting Hamas propoganda?

That's just ridiculous.

It was @Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice who I accused of parroting Hamas propaganda. At 3.53 today I said:

Earlier today @Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice ** said Of the 6 individuals named as militants, 5 Sky couldn't find evidence of terrorist/militant/Hamas involvement, and the 6th, who did have connections to Hamas or similar, was killed the day before, not in this strike.

That comes directly from the Hamas statement In a statement issued later on Tuesday, Hamas challenged the Israeli account of the hospital casualties, denying that any of the Palestinians killed were militants.
The Hamas government media office said in a statement that one of the six Palestinians who Israel alleged were militants was killed in al-Mawasi some distance from the hospital, and another was killed elsewhere at a different time.

This is what you said. Whilst ignoring everything else they said which added alot more context to their findings. Where it was something Hamas had said they were quite clear about it.

For example from the article "A Hamas-branded obituary"

But when the Hamas version of events was mentioned by the poster on here, they did not mention the fact that Sky was quoting from Hamas. Maybe they didn't know it did but this is what happens when Hamas say something, it gets reported in the media and then people repost it as something that is a fact.

Fair enough - it was @Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice who just repeated the Hamas statement as though it were fact.

Which medics are you referring to?

@Kakeandkake note that my original comment about parroting Hamas was It's interesting to me that some on here are happy to parrot the Hamas version of events with no acknowledgment even that this is who is providing their version of events.

This was not about Sky news. Although I don't consider Sky an unbiased source, they were clearly not who I had in mind when I mentioned "some on here" parroting the Hamas version of events.

This incident.

The one where everytime new evidence would emerge, the IDF were forced to admit it was them.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy0xp969n69o

New footage that CNN and other news outlets have obtained now show it wasn't just a double tap but three strikes. The second strike was in reality two strikes and this is what caused the majority of deaths.

edition.cnn.com/2025/08/27/middleeast/gaza-nasser-hospital-israel-attack-three-strikes-intl#:~:text=New%20video%20obtained%20by%20CNN,law%20and%20a%20war%20crime.

New video obtained by CNN reveals that this second “tap” was in fact two near-simultaneous strikes. These second and third strikes appear to have caused most of the deaths.

Intentionally attacking rescue workers, journalists and other civilians is a violation of international humanitarian law and a war crime.

When asked about the third strike the IDF replied with 'no comment'

@Twiglets1, the IDF bombed a hospital.
That is a war crime.
The presence of a camera doesn't negate that.

I have no doubt that the very thought of it is distressing to you. War crimes are distressing. And devastating. To the victims, their families, the hopes for peace and the future.

The IDF are lying. When someone comes out with numerous different versions of what happened you know they're lying.

Your faith in the IDF has been shaken but denial isn't going to help anyone.

How was I supposed to know you were referring to an incident from months ago? Yes that was an incident that discredited the individual IDF soldiers involved and I have said before on MN that they were caught lying in that incident. However one incident doesn't prove that the IDF as an organisation routinely target medics. Wikipedia says of the investigation:

Israeli military released the investigation report on 20 April 2025, which found the killings were caused by "several professional failures, breaches of orders, and a failure to fully report the incident."

As a consequence, the IDF’s Golani Brigade deputy commander will be removed from his role due to his actions in the field and for delivering a report that lacked accuracy and completeness during the inquiry.

Another commander involved in the operation in Rafah, where the deaths occurred, will face disciplinary action for his overall responsibility in the incident, according to the military.