Hamas ‘death culture’ beyond comprehension, says founder’s son

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Hamas’s embrace of “death culture” is beyond comprehension for much of the world, Mosab Hassan Yousef, the eldest son of Sheikh Hassan Yousef, the founder of the terrorist group, told JNS on Tuesday.

“It is not just the West, it’s also the East. It is beyond understanding that some people are willing to sacrifice human life for political gains, or worse for financial gains. I am a living example of this. My father had to choose between his eldest son and the cause and he chose the cause,” said Yousef.

“There is no parent in the world that would go into a fight that would put their own children in harm’s way. Hamas did the opposite. They went and dragged Israel in the most brutal fight of our time, knowing children would pay the price. This shows you their hypocrisy,” he continued.

“It’s the same game with pro-Palestinians worldwide. Everybody cries for the children on one hand, and on the other they are pushing Palestinian indoctrination which leads to the death of children. And then when children die, they blame Israel,” he added.

www.jns.org/hamas-death-culture-beyond-comprehension-says-founders-son/

Yes - I agree it is seemingly the easiest way of identifying where you stand! I wasn’t blaming anyone for that labelling (esp as I have no alternatives) but it is something that always makes me pause for thought when I see it.

Sometimes it makes me pause for thought as I type it so I agree it’s a strange terminology but still, it seems the best we can come up with.

The death culture is beyond comprehension to western thinking. This is used against people in the west. The cynical use of the death of children to promote their aims is apparent. It works so they increase it.

Also, the spread of extremist Islamic ideology is a threat to the entire world. The use of cryptocurrency to fund the spread around the world. It's tentacles are spreading throughout Africa. There was a tv programme recently that explored the success of it's spread following ideals that Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood use. The fall in the willingness of the West to intervene and help eradicate from countries with major problems is also helping it spread.

Very good points.

Why don't people all suggest Hamas fuck off out of Gaza? Why don't they castigate them? I wonder if they don't actually blame them for Oct 7th and actually think 'freedom fighter'. Appalling IMO but I think this lies at the root of why so many westerners don't castigate or blame Hamas.

How do you even censure Hamas? Most pro-Palestinian posts on here have an explicit comment or reference to not supporting Hamas. What are you expecting Pro-Palestinians to do in relation to Hamas - there is no line of communication. What more than saying we dont support Hamas are you expecting?

You keep talking about an absolute surrender but how would people even communicate such? People have been shot waiving white flags.

It’s an attitude as much as anything else… it’s who you blame ultimately for the war. Some pro Pals never like to hear that Hamas are as much to blame for the unhappiness of Gazans as Israel. Even before the war, most were kept in poverty while their leaders built expensive villas ( some abroad) and travelled on private jets - & built that extensive tunnel network under Gaza that no civilians ever benefited from.

And then Hamas triggered a war that they could never hope to win and which has had devastating consequences for Gazans. And even now refuse to surrender and leave Gaza because it’s apparently better for them not to lose face than see Gaza city taken and all those people displaced.

They are a bunch of extremists that Israel tried living alongside but it didn’t work. 7/10 put paid to any idea of co-existence.

Israel bombed Gaza on four previous occasions between 2008 - 2022.

That is hardly "peaceful coexistence".

Then there is the Israeli treatment of Palestinians in the West Bank, something these threads purposely seem to ignore. By September 2023, Israel had killed 38 children in the West Bank.

https://www.savethechildren.net/news/2023-marks-deadliest-year-record-children-occupied-west-bank

I didn’t say “peaceful coexistence” I said “coexistence”.

Hamas equally did violent things towards Israel during times of supposed peace .

This thread is a rare one about Hamas not Israel. Yet you don’t mention them at all?

There is zero moral equivalence between Hamas and Israel. Hamas would literally kill every Jew in the world (including me!) were they able to.

Israel is a (now flawed) liberal democracy, who have acted with decency over 80 years of being attacked.

Having said all the above, we shouldn’t give Israel a free pass. I think many want to, as they have been a good friend and ally for so long and this applies particularly to the Jewish diaspora.

But Ben G’vir and Smotrich are admitted racists and are in government. Some of the phrases they have uttered wouldn’t seem out of place coming from Hamas (in the opposite direction, obviously).
But Netanyahu, although cynical and self serving, doesn’t support their views and has said as much.

However, civilians are civilians, and they have rights in international law. If Israel is committing war crimes, and it seems they are, those responsible should to be brought to justice.

Having said that, they won’t be, because power is also power, and always has been. And the U.S current has it (along with China, who will happily use Trump’s backing for Israel annexing Gaza to annex Taiwan).

It is a really sad situation and has polarised so many people.

Why don't people all suggest Hamas fuck off out of Gaza? Why don't they castigate them?

I can only speak for myself, but for me it's because they are not the essential problem, and demands to castigate them are usually made by people seeking to avoid addressing the essential problem.

The essential problem is that Gaza is under an illegal occupation and the Palestinians are being denied their right to national self-determination.

To be fair, that's not the ONLY "essential problem" - I can think of a few more... 🤔

Co- existence is what Israel & Gaza were doing in the period before 7/10. They weren’t fighting in the sense of a war.

I didn’t call you pro Hamas so don’t make stuff up it’s boring having to keep correcting people.

Agreed.

There are lots of problems and Hamas are certainly a big one even if the Israel government are also guilty of creating many other problems.

Balance is a good thing.

True.

When Hamas finally crawl off somewhere and allow the innocent people of Gaza to elect a new government and rebuild, then Israel need a new government and both 'sides' need a peace agreement. A peace agreement that addresses all the various issues to attempt to keep peace in the area. With Hamas around still clinging onto their money/power/control etc that will not happen.

I didn't say Hamas weren't a problem. I said they're not the essential problem.

Tell us you're not Israeli without telling us you're not Israeli 😜

That man requires a great deal more air time.

Many in Israel, including the family of some hostages, are against the war - see it as unnecessary, unhelpful and not in Israel's interests.

https://youtube.com/shorts/R-cRy4D6XPU

So what? I assume most people are against the war by this stage.

Everybody in Israel knows that the war is necessary because it basically means defending themselves against Hamas, therefore it is in Israel’s interest.
Or did you just expect Israel to lay down defenceless and let itself be kicked around?

Thats just simply untrue. The link i sent contained the father of an captive that said 'unnecessary war'. Half a million in Israel are out on the streets protesting against continuing the war.

"lay down defenceless"

Israel has the world's best defence system. It needs it, it has it and it works extremely well.

What Israel's been doing for the past two years isn't defence.

So what’s your solution instead? How do you remove Hamas otherwise? You think Hamas will just surrender, forget their ideology and simply go back to their pedestrian lives to sell pomegranate juice and baklava?