So are MSF wrong about Gaza too?

[OneKookyShark]

I have read multiple posts both on here and on the CITME forum- and I am aware how toxic the debate is.

But surely when Legitimate and highly respected international NGO talks of ‘orchestrated killing and dehuminisation”, then it starts to become utterly undeniable?

I am sure someone will be along to tell me otherwise. I also note that Netenyahu has ordered a full occupation of Gaza city today.

“Médecins Sans Frontières calls for immediate closure of Gaza Humanitarian Foundation
The medical NGO Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) has called for the immediate closure of Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF), the US- and Israeli-backed aid organisation operating in Gaza, describing GHF-run food distribution sites in Gaza as having become sites of “orchestrated killing and dehumanisation”.
In a social media post on Thursday, MSF wrote:
“In MSF’s nearly 54 years of operations, rarely have we seen such levels of systematic violence against unarmed civilians.”
The GHF-run food distributions in Gaza, Palestine, have become sites of “orchestrated killing and dehumanisation”, not humanitarian aid.
In a new report, MSF analysed medical data, patients’ testimonies and first-hand medical witnesses at two MSF clinics in Gaza and found that it “point[ed] to both targeted and indiscriminate violence by Israeli forces and private American contractors against starved Palestinians” at food distribution sites run by the GHF”

Do you feel the same about all military personnel who fight in wars or just Jewish ones?

What an absolutely disgusting post.

Why am I not surprised it hasn’t been deleted.

It wasn’t her son. It was her Rabbi’s son and it wasn’t HIS country. He’s a UK citizen. And yes I would say that to her face. She put the information out there not me.

Do you think the Palestinian kids who are being killed don’t have parents or family that care? Or it doesn’t matter as they are far away, not my kid or whatever nonsense people want to shout.

Children are being killed - 20,000 to date give or take. Or does that not matter?

So you'd say it to the Rabbi? You think that makes it any better? If he's a Rabbis son he's Jewish and you well know that. So yes, it is his country, his people.

You wished lifelong poor mental health on a young man that you don't even know because he went to serve. You know nothing of the boy, other than that he's Jewish.

I hope your post gets left up as an example of hatred.

Amazed that hasn't been deleted. Disgusting.

Can't believe what people feel its ok to say on here sometimes

You just know it has, and will get a lot of likes, as well. Theres a few Jewish posters, personally affected by events, who get sick posts aimed at them. You can almost see the sneery disdain, as they are being typed.

I don't base my opinions on the opinions of others. I base my opinions on objective facts.

MFS is just a group of people- why anyone would think their opinion = a fact is beyond me.

There opinions are presumably based on their observations. They are actually in Gaza on the ground.

That wasn't his intentention, but that is the result. As I said previously, Netenyahu is Hamas's most effective weapon. His genocide of the people of Gaza has and continues to weaken Israel.

That's just one of the reasons Israelis want him gone. That along with his arming of jihadist militia in Gaza, his failure to have the hostages returned and his corruption.

And? So is the United States government and their opinion is the complete opposite.

If the pro Israeli lobby want to criticize data sources there’s one easy fix - allow in representatives from a range of independent news agencies. But they won’t and surely that is clearly telling us something very important.

An example of the justification that some posters on Israel/Gaza threads use when defending the IDF is that conscription is compulsory in Israel so these soldiers have no choice but to fight in this conflict. I assume that this isn't the case for UK citizens.

Such a bizarre argument in defence of killing an unarmed civilian population in large numbers. “If they could kill us, they would, but they can’t so we we’ll kill them”

I prefer the people that genuinely believe the Israeli government. Posts like this, that acknowledge the loss of innocent life, but justify it are definitely a step below.

What part of any of my posts led you to believe I hate Palestinian children?

Perhaps youre just viewing me through the lens you use.

Your post was very clear about the harm you wished onto a young Jewish man that you dont know and who has not done anything wrong. Everyone can see it.

Hear hear. Yes, we see it.

I hope your Rabbi's son returns in tact and with wisdom @PurpleChrayn.🙏

Just popped into this thread and noticed lots of new names, but also some familiar ones recycling the same old talking points. Interesting.

In what way?

Israel has never and will never go anywhere.
No matter how many wish it away.

It's the headcorner stone of the Middle East.

Its currently the crazy, violent, looney of the ME and that's some achievement in a crowded field.

Anyone on here care to comment on this thread?

www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/5392647-gazan-ghf-workers-left-to-die-at-hospital-where-doctors-without-borders-is?page=1

You didn't answer my question. I dont expect you will as it would require you to try to put yourself in the shoes of the Palestinians.

I cant understand your reference to a threat centuries old - please explain.