So are MSF wrong about Gaza too?

[OneKookyShark]

I have read multiple posts both on here and on the CITME forum- and I am aware how toxic the debate is.

But surely when Legitimate and highly respected international NGO talks of ‘orchestrated killing and dehuminisation”, then it starts to become utterly undeniable?

I am sure someone will be along to tell me otherwise. I also note that Netenyahu has ordered a full occupation of Gaza city today.

“Médecins Sans Frontières calls for immediate closure of Gaza Humanitarian Foundation
The medical NGO Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) has called for the immediate closure of Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF), the US- and Israeli-backed aid organisation operating in Gaza, describing GHF-run food distribution sites in Gaza as having become sites of “orchestrated killing and dehumanisation”.
In a social media post on Thursday, MSF wrote:
“In MSF’s nearly 54 years of operations, rarely have we seen such levels of systematic violence against unarmed civilians.”
The GHF-run food distributions in Gaza, Palestine, have become sites of “orchestrated killing and dehumanisation”, not humanitarian aid.
In a new report, MSF analysed medical data, patients’ testimonies and first-hand medical witnesses at two MSF clinics in Gaza and found that it “point[ed] to both targeted and indiscriminate violence by Israeli forces and private American contractors against starved Palestinians” at food distribution sites run by the GHF”

More one siding it. No mention of the violence Palestinians carried out against Israeli civilians?

Israel drove Palestinians into the arms of Hamas? More infantilization of Palestinians. What about the choices made by Palestinian leadership? What about the constant lack of support from other Arab nations?

One siding it like this is so unhelpful, can't you see that? It deepens divisions and plays into the hands of extremists.

As if!🙄

Netenyahu was able to target Hezbollah with bombed chargers. He launched targeted assassinations on Iran's nuclear scientists.

Yet he couldn't target and assassinate the Hamas leaders in Gaza without blanket bombing, starvation and genocide?🤯

The genocide in Gaza is what Netenyahu wants. The man's a psychopath. He doesn't give a shit about Israelis. He doesn't give a shit about Jews or Judaism.

I completely agree. He couldn't give a shit about the hostages either. He welcomed the far right fascist nutters Smotrich and Ben-Gvir into his government to keep him in power and out of jail for corruption. Those two psychopaths are the cheerleaders for the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from Gaza and the West Bank.

That should read bombed pagers rather than chargers.

Apologies.

I shouldn't worry - your limited experience of military strategy, remains intact.

Hamas knows it cant destroy Israel, but Netenyahu can. And he is.

Netanyahu wants to destroy Israel now?

Well he’s certainly destroyed their reputation - probably for decades to come.

Netanyahu doesn’t want to destroy Israel, Hamas do.

The only reason Israel isn't destroyed, is because they won't roll over. A threat, that is centuries old, isn't going to go away. From the river to the sea Palestine will be free - remember. * *

Good job Israel is somewhat independent - they developed their infrastructure, while their enemy didn't- just dug tunnels and bought weapons. Their rich benefactor, of course knew where most of their money was going.

Oh the irony. Most of the infrastructure Palestinians have managed to build is in ruins now. The last thing Israel wants is a successful thriving Palestine next door.

Dont you think its conceivable that Israel would prefer a Palestinian nation next door focused on its own nation building and future for its own people, rather than just constantly trying to destroy Israel and turn the clock back to 1920?

Maybe not continuing centuries of hate and intolerance for another religion, would have saved all this.

Maybe an Israeli not assassinating the one Prime Minister who came to an agreement with the PLO would have helped too. There is hate and extremism on both sides.

I don't see Jewish extremism, for instance, on the streets of the UK.

Agree hate and extremists on both sides.
One siding it on here feeds it though.

Never ... and I used to live in Stamford Hill in London for a few years which is apparently the largest Hasidic community in Europe.

Never any trouble whatsoever. The only negative thing I ever thought about them was that they didn't mix in the wider community but kept themselves to themselves. Completely peaceful group to live alongside, though.

But there is in Israel.

Weren’t you the poster who was SO proud of the fact her Rabbi's son had gone over to fight on behalf of the IDF? Hope the images of the dead children and women he killed haunt him for the rest of his life.

So you don't understand an extremist culture- it is all very relevant.

🙄 pointless engaging,further than that

Unfortunately there are some politicians with extreme right wing views within the current Israel government, but they don't represent the whole government and anyway, the government is unpopular with Israelis and very likely to get voted out at the next election.

I would also classify the Settlers as extremist - but they do not represent the typical Israeli.

Most countries have some people with extremist views and some extreme right wing politicians. Certainly the UK does.

Hate and extremists on both sides I can agree with. But the hatred Hamas have towards Israel and Jews is different and can't be swept under the carpet. They literally want to destroy the country and all its people and it's only the lack of military strength that prevents it doing so.

Huh?

Fucking hell. This forum. Would you say that to this posters face? Her son went to serve his country and you speak to her like that?