Israeli security cabinet expected to approve Gaza takeover plan

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Sky News report that Israel is expected to approve Benjamin Netanyahu's plan for a takeover of Gaza when the security cabinet meets later today.

According to the Times of Israel, the full cabinet is due to convene at 6pm local time, 4pm in the UK.

Israeli media are reporting that the plan could potentially span over five months, and it is likely to be aimed at destroying Hamas and pressuring it to free remaining hostages.

While some ministers have been critical of the plan, reports suggest Netanyahu is likely to secure a majority of support.

https://news.sky.com/story/gaza-latest-hostages-famine-aid-hamas-idf-war-palestine-state-live-13398805

I saw the video that accompanied this article earlier today and honestly it sickened me in so many different ways. The tiktoks, the running over people dead and alive, it's just disgusting.

Wasn’t it like that before Gaza chose Hamas?

No, it absolutely wasn't. And (I'm going to guess unlike you) I've actually been to both the Gaza Strip and the West Bank.

@ConscientiousObserver nothing to say about the IDF soldier who says Netanyahu is lying? And the images of starvation that Netanyahu tries to dismiss as propoganda is actually the reality.

Oh sorry before the 1st Intifada in 1991 with regards to the West Bank AND Gaza and THEN they had another Intifada in 2000 and THEN Gaza chose Hamas.

I don’t think Palestinians must be too bothered about going into Israel then because you’d have thought they would have expected Israel’s response after 1991.

Mosab Hassan Yousef, son of one of the Hamas founders, has talked about travelling into Israel on weekends with his father from his home in Ramallah.

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With link I omitted to attach.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_freedom_of_movement

You would rather ignore because it doesnt suit your narrative @ConscientiousObserver

It really is. These are videos posted by IDF soldiers from Gaza which their supporters choose to turn a blind eye to.

Thanks for sharing this. Its worth remembering that lots of IDF soldiers have spoken out against Netanyahu, the hostages' families have been protesting him, and most Israelis (70% on most recent polling) don't do not trust him. Makes you wonder what his international supporters are playing at...

Not only could Palestinians - even after the 1st Intifada - even after and during the 2nd, actually - at some times travel to areas inside the Green Line (basically: the internationally recognised Israeli territory) but it was actively encouraged at times. Palestinians, you see, were seen as a convenient source of cheap labour for the Israeli economy. A close friend of mine, a Palestinian from the Nablus area, used to basically be the breadwinner for his whole family in his teens because he worked menial construction and service jobs in Tel Aviv while settlers were putting a choke hold on the farm belonging to his father.

But this has always been subject to a regime of permits and - more controversially - turning a blind eye (because black market labour is cheap).

Speaking of the 1st Intifada: it actually started in December 1987. If we allow for that to mean "basically 1988", Mosab Hassan Yousef (born 1978) would have been ten years old when it broke out. What the man says about his memories is essentially what my own daughter would say about me taking her to Colombia: she would remember it happened and obviously have no idea whether or in what way this was safe and what was involved.

In sum: yes, he is perfectly correct that there were times during which a Palestinian from Ramallah (or Rafah, or Jenin) would have been able to visit places like Haifa or Nazareth. But it was never an equal or uncomplicated affair.

The 1st intifada was also, FWIW, characterised primarily by mass civil disobedience for the first about 18 months or so. And it happened - from a Palestinian perspective - not out of the blue but because any semblance of resistance to Israeli domination without any rights for the Palestinians. At the time, Rabin (yup, same bloke who would go on to win a joint Nobel Peace Prize alongside Arafat and would end up being assassinated by an extremist settler over Oslo) issued the directive to "break the bones" of kids throwing stones.

So ... long and complicated story but, suffice to say: it was never a question of "the Palestinians were happy and free until they decided to attack".

Israeli soldiers have spoken out but anonymously due to fear of retribution. They are just dismissed as propoganda by supporters of Netanyahu and his government and say it's all fake because it is done anonymously.

Now that soldiers are speaking out openly, these supporters prefer to just ignore it.

So Israel just killed most of the Al Jazeera crew in Gaza city just days after announcing their plans. They really don't want anyone to see what they are about to do..

Just came back to that as I didn’t see it. War is horrific for actual soldiers too. Of course they suffer from PTSD, it’s been known about from the World Wars. and it must be much worse for the IDF with Hamas’ disgusting tactics of using children and civilians as human sacrifices. I can’t imagine how it must fuck them up seeing that.

That soldier also gathered the dead bodies of the young people, probably seeing signs of the rape and torture inflicted on them, from the Nova festival and then had to fight against the monsters who did that, also seeing them using deliberately using women and kids as as collateral.

That’s too much for any human to cope with which is why I’m disgusted by the accusations they get and the persecution of IDF soldiers in particular.

They’ve even been stalked online, personal info released, and people are trying to get them prosecuted just for being soldiers defending their country in a WAR!

There’s a video doing the rounds of one being screamed at by a woman that he’s a baby killer, while he was on a beach with his family minding his own business obviously on leave for R&R. because she saw he was wearing a Star of David necklace.

I don’t remember seeing that with any other soldiers from any other country during or after a war.

You have misrepresented what the mental health officer said in that video btw. He said that is what he was told, he said the soldiers he’d talked to saw starvation, and we know starvation has been orchestrated by Hamas by hijacking lorry loads of free aid!

Does anyone really think Hamas give a shit if Palestinians are starving when it absolutely suits their propaganda machine?

Is your argument that the IDF shouldn’t have gone in to Gaza then?

Would Western governments not have gone to war in the same circumstances? How many died after 9/11?

Wars are horrific for everybody involved. That’s why a terrorist government shouldn’t have been given the power to start one.

I think you missed this

"When you see the pictures that you've seen with your own eyes and your government says 'no this is a lie, no this is propaganda', this makes you distrust everyone. And when you distrust everyone, why would you ask for help?"

Oh for fucks sake 'starvation has been orchestrated by Hamas'

I can't see any point in engaging with such denial.

It's hard to see how you wouldn't be haunted if you ran over 100s of people with a bulldozer. I clicked on a video once, didn't realise what it was until it was too late, it was the body of person who had been ran over by a man like Eliran,maybe even by him, who knows. It was one of the most horrific things I have ever seen. For a person like Eliran to take aim at another person and do that to them, not just once but to 100s of people, there aren't words to describe that.

Nope listen again if you want to argue that point.

https://x.com/IDF/status/1954652255199887516

Yeah. I believe the IDF. Seems he was Hamas.

Now who would have thought it?

They must have stockpiled press vests in preparation for the war.

We've all listened and read, thanks.

Are you seriously going to deny that they're accusing Netanyahu and his government of lying?

"When you hear your government and your commanders telling things that are not true, you start thinking, are they lying to me also?"

"When you hear your prime minister lying about things that you saw in Gaza, things that you did ... people talk about torching houses, people talk about a 'deadline' - not a metaphor - a deadline when people cross they will be killed no matter if they are children or women ... they see people starving and they also see the chaos."

Absolutely heartbreaking watching the horrendous footage of the Aljazeera crew slaughtered. 😢

Al Jazeera called it a "targeted assassination."

Shortly after the strike, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) confirmed that it had targeted Anas al-Sharif, writing in a Telegram post that he had "served as the head of a terrorist cell in Hamas".

In its statement, the IDF accused al-Sharif of posing as a journalist, and being "responsible for advancing rocket attacks against Israeli civilians and IDF troops".

It said it had previously "disclosed intelligence" confirming his military affiliation, which included "lists of terrorist training courses".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceqyyrp3yq9o

On the contrary they are going to start allowing foreign journalists in to observe what is happening on the ground, accompanied by IDF soldiers for their own protection.

A war zone is not a safe place for them, but there has been a lot of pressure for Netanyahu to allow this. I imagine they will have a target on their back from Hamas though.

There's not a lot to say about the israeli soldiers who have spoken out anonymously. When people speak anonymously you can't verify who they are or whether they are likely to have a grudge. Overall, though, I do believe them when they say they have seen awful inhumane things in the war.

I believe that individual IDF soldiers are committing war crimes and should be punished accordingly. That individual soldiers have dehumanised the people of Gaza and see them all as potential Hamas is something I can imagine happening in this chaotic war where the enemy don't wear uniforms and are embedded in the local population. Soldiers may also be suffering from PTSD which isn't an excuse but maybe will be taken into consideration.

I also believe them that Netanyahu is less than completely honest with the truth. I don't think all the images of hungry Palestinians is propaganda though some of it clearly is and that has been proven. I think there is widespread malnutrition and hunger in Gaza and that some babies and children have died from it. Though not as many as Hamas have claimed because they have also cynically used children with additional needs and pretended all their issues are caused by hunger. They shouldn't have done this as the images coming out of Gaza are bad enough and there is a genuine humanitarian crisis which thank God is now being addressed with more aid finally being distributed.

CPJ had issued an alert about a smear campaign about him not long ago. https://cpj.org/2025/07/cpj-calls-for-anas-al-sharifs-protection-in-face-of-israeli-smears/

The Al Jazeera tent itself was targeted with 5 staff members killed.

thank God is now being addressed with more aid finally being distributed.

the humanitarian situation is not being addressed with the levels aid that is being delivered. With the levels of malnutrition, it would require a large, coordinated and targeted response of food, therapeutic food and other medical aid. The air drops are a form of theatre - a penny in the ocean stuff. The UN seem to be finding it difficult to deliver aid effectively at all now and the GHF is completely ineffective and the food boxes not designed to avoid malnutrition.

It’s a very desperate situation.