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Conflict in the Middle East

Israeli security cabinet expected to approve Gaza takeover plan

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Twiglets1 · 07/08/2025 10:18

Sky News report that Israel is expected to approve Benjamin Netanyahu's plan for a takeover of Gaza when the security cabinet meets later today.

According to the Times of Israel, the full cabinet is due to convene at 6pm local time, 4pm in the UK.

Israeli media are reporting that the plan could potentially span over five months, and it is likely to be aimed at destroying Hamas and pressuring it to free remaining hostages.

While some ministers have been critical of the plan, reports suggest Netanyahu is likely to secure a majority of support.

https://news.sky.com/story/gaza-latest-hostages-famine-aid-hamas-idf-war-palestine-state-live-13398805

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https://news.sky.com/story/gaza-latest-hostages-famine-aid-hamas-idf-war-palestine-state-live-13398805

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Twiglets1 · 07/08/2025 17:34

TinyIsMyNewt · 07/08/2025 17:22

There's not much the rest of the world can do - it all comes down to the US, and how long they're willing to enable this.

Trump has already answered this:

US President Donald Trump indicated Tuesday that he would not interfere with Israeli plans to occupy the entirety of the Gaza Strip.

Hours earlier, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu held a security consultation and reportedly came out in favor of the IDF taking control of the entire enclave, even if doing so endangers the lives of the remaining hostages held in areas not yet conquered by the army.

Pressed by reporters at the White House on whether he’d support such a plan — which still needs to receive final approval from the Israeli cabinet later this week — Trump responded, “That’s pretty much going to be up to Israel.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/chiefly-focused-on-food-aid-trump-says-gaza-occupation-pretty-much-up-to-israel/

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Twiglets1 · 07/08/2025 17:50

Trump says he wants all Middle Eastern countries to have formal Israel ties

As reported in Al Jazeera: United States President Donald Trump has called on all countries in the Middle East to forge formal relations with Israel despite the ongoing Israeli atrocities in Gaza, citing the US attacks on Iran’s nuclear facilities in June.

“Now that the nuclear arsenal being ‘created’ by Iran has been totally OBLITERATED, it is very important to me that all Middle Eastern Countries join the Abraham Accords,” the US president wrote.

“This will insure [sic] PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST. Thank you for your attention to this matter!”

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/7/trump-says-he-wants-all-middle-eastern-countries-to-have-formal-israel-ties

Trump says he wants all Middle Eastern countries to have formal Israel ties

US president invokes attacks on Iran’s nuclear sites as he calls for countries in the region to join ‘Abraham Accords’.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/7/trump-says-he-wants-all-middle-eastern-countries-to-have-formal-israel-ties

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TaupeMember · 07/08/2025 17:59

Netanyahu and Trunp have never hid the fact they want the land

Twiglets1 · 07/08/2025 18:05

TaupeMember · 07/08/2025 17:59

Netanyahu and Trunp have never hid the fact they want the land

“We don’t want to keep it. We want to have a security perimeter. We don’t want to govern it. We don’t want to be there as a governing body.”

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Namechang36368 · 07/08/2025 18:07

30+ years ago I was working in Tel Aviv. I asked the UK Ambassador when he thought the fighting would stop. He said 'when both sides decide enough people have died'. This has stuck with me as I have followed the situation in Israel and Palestine. Hamas will not stop, nor will Netanyahu. The war is being fought by IDF conscript teenages. They must be terrified. But anyone who denies that Netanyahu is carrying out 'collective punishment' of the Palestinian people is deluded, and history will not look kindly on them. Netanyahu must go, along with his aggressive hawks. The UN must send peacekeepers to Palestine with the condition that Hamas must be disbanded. Even that will not rebuild schools, homes and hospitals that will impact young Palestinians for a generation. I am not convinced that either side have decided enough have died.....

Dangermoo · 07/08/2025 18:20

Namechang36368 · 07/08/2025 18:07

30+ years ago I was working in Tel Aviv. I asked the UK Ambassador when he thought the fighting would stop. He said 'when both sides decide enough people have died'. This has stuck with me as I have followed the situation in Israel and Palestine. Hamas will not stop, nor will Netanyahu. The war is being fought by IDF conscript teenages. They must be terrified. But anyone who denies that Netanyahu is carrying out 'collective punishment' of the Palestinian people is deluded, and history will not look kindly on them. Netanyahu must go, along with his aggressive hawks. The UN must send peacekeepers to Palestine with the condition that Hamas must be disbanded. Even that will not rebuild schools, homes and hospitals that will impact young Palestinians for a generation. I am not convinced that either side have decided enough have died.....

History won't look to kindly on whom - Israel?

ConscientiousObserver · 07/08/2025 19:34

Namechang36368 · 07/08/2025 18:07

30+ years ago I was working in Tel Aviv. I asked the UK Ambassador when he thought the fighting would stop. He said 'when both sides decide enough people have died'. This has stuck with me as I have followed the situation in Israel and Palestine. Hamas will not stop, nor will Netanyahu. The war is being fought by IDF conscript teenages. They must be terrified. But anyone who denies that Netanyahu is carrying out 'collective punishment' of the Palestinian people is deluded, and history will not look kindly on them. Netanyahu must go, along with his aggressive hawks. The UN must send peacekeepers to Palestine with the condition that Hamas must be disbanded. Even that will not rebuild schools, homes and hospitals that will impact young Palestinians for a generation. I am not convinced that either side have decided enough have died.....

I suppose it is to be expected that there’s going to be a lot of hysterical pro-Palestinians absolutely frothing as they don’t want to accept that Israel is not committing genocide, and actually doesn’t want Gaza, and in fact went above and beyond for peace.

ConscientiousObserver · 07/08/2025 19:38

Dangermoo · 07/08/2025 18:20

History won't look to kindly on whom - Israel?

Well us of course! Anyone hasn’t fallen for Hamas propaganda. We’re inhuman monsters didn’t you know who agree with baby killing and genocide.

Have you ever known a war going on in the world where the supporters of one side are demonised like that, as well as the whole army, citizens snd government of course.

Completely boring now.

It’s a script.

Dangermoo · 07/08/2025 19:41

ConscientiousObserver · 07/08/2025 19:38

Well us of course! Anyone hasn’t fallen for Hamas propaganda. We’re inhuman monsters didn’t you know who agree with baby killing and genocide.

Have you ever known a war going on in the world where the supporters of one side are demonised like that, as well as the whole army, citizens snd government of course.

Completely boring now.

It’s a script.

Yep, I was talking about that script, on another thread. This Israel has lost a lot of friends and history won't look too kindly on them? Since when has history had a fanbase. It really is a bizarre mentality, and one I've never seen during my lifetime.

ConscientiousObserver · 07/08/2025 19:48

Well Egypt don’t seem to have a problem with Israel which is quite staggering tbh since a lot of Palestinians have roots in Egypt.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/israels-leviathan-signs-35-billion-natural-gas-supply-deal-with-egypt-2025-08-07/

Namechang36368 · 07/08/2025 19:50

ConscientiousObserver · 07/08/2025 19:34

I suppose it is to be expected that there’s going to be a lot of hysterical pro-Palestinians absolutely frothing as they don’t want to accept that Israel is not committing genocide, and actually doesn’t want Gaza, and in fact went above and beyond for peace.

Actually the definition of genocide is: the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group. I personally believe that is Netanyahu's plan to keep the hawks in his coalition on side. If it were just about Hamas, then there would be no conflict in the West Bank.

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Countrylife2002 · 07/08/2025 19:56

childofthe607080s · 07/08/2025 15:32

It would have been better if Isreal hadn’t spent the last few decades slowly invading Gaza and the West Bank and killing those who got in their way

And that’s why expecting Hamas to behave nicely has been doomed

Isreal need to leave Gaza and then perhaps people will talk and negotiate Lthough I fear it is too late and too much damage has been done

as it is , they are an invading army from the Hamas point of view

This

Countrylife2002 · 07/08/2025 19:58

Of course it’s genocide. How is it anything else.

ConscientiousObserver · 07/08/2025 20:01

Countrylife2002 · 07/08/2025 19:58

Of course it’s genocide. How is it anything else.

What, like this?

https://x.com/chalavyishmael/status/1953477250667413794

https://x.com/chalavyishmael/status/1953477250667413794

SpaceRaccoon · 07/08/2025 20:29

If it were just about Hamas, then there would be no conflict in the West Bank.

There is terrorist activity in the West Bank too though, look at this, dubbed "pay to slay":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Authority_Martyrs_Fund

The second intifada was launched from there, and there are regular terrorist attacks. This is why there are the checkpoints and all the stringent security.

Palestinian Authority Martyrs Fund - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Authority_Martyrs_Fund

ConscientiousObserver · 07/08/2025 21:23

SpaceRaccoon · 07/08/2025 20:29

If it were just about Hamas, then there would be no conflict in the West Bank.

There is terrorist activity in the West Bank too though, look at this, dubbed "pay to slay":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Authority_Martyrs_Fund

The second intifada was launched from there, and there are regular terrorist attacks. This is why there are the checkpoints and all the stringent security.

It never ceases to amaze me that people talk about the West Bank without knowing that there is also Hamas there as well.

That they don’t know about the Ramallah lynching and ongoing terrorist attacks for decades.

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2025/05/08/lowest-number-of-monthly-attacks-in-5-years-recorded-in-west-bank/

Odd they only seem to know about the settler violence which is often a response to Palestinian terrorist attacks

www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-857535

SpaceRaccoon · 07/08/2025 21:34

@ConscientiousObserver exactly. It's like people think there's all the security just because the IDF are bastards and doing it to be mean. I know because that's what I used to think.

Dangermoo · 07/08/2025 22:13

ConscientiousObserver · 07/08/2025 21:23

It never ceases to amaze me that people talk about the West Bank without knowing that there is also Hamas there as well.

That they don’t know about the Ramallah lynching and ongoing terrorist attacks for decades.

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2025/05/08/lowest-number-of-monthly-attacks-in-5-years-recorded-in-west-bank/

Odd they only seem to know about the settler violence which is often a response to Palestinian terrorist attacks

www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-857535

Ah, well that bit's easy. They just pick the settler stuff up, from the crowds on a Saturday afternoon. Why bother researching the ins and outs of the region, when you can just stroll along the streets of London, waving a placard.

Twiglets1 · 08/08/2025 06:37

BBC: Israel's security cabinet approves plan to take control of Gaza City

The takeover of Gaza City approved by the Israeli security cabinet is likely to be the first phase of a full takeover of Gaza by the military, as Israel PM Benjamin Netanyahu says this is his intention.

His plans have faced strong opposition from the military leadership, with the army’s chief of staff, Lt Gen Eyal Zamir, warning him of a “trap”.
The families of the hostages say an expansion of the offensive, which
is likely to last months, will put the 20 captives believed to be alive at risk. There have also been warnings that a push will kill even more Palestinians and worsen the humanitarian crisis in the territory.

Polls suggest most of the Israeli public favour a deal with Hamas for the release of the hostages and the end of the war. Israeli leaders say Hamas, for now, is not interested in negotiating as, in their view, the group is feeling emboldened by the international pressure on Israel over the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

There has been some speculation that the threat of full occupation could be part of a strategy to put pressure on Hamas to make concessions in stalled talks.
Throughout the war, Netanyahu has been accused of prolonging the conflict to guarantee the survival of his coalition, which relies on the support of ultranationalist ministers who have threatened to quit the government if there is any deal with Hamas.

In an interview shortly before the cabinet’s meeting, Netanyahu said that Israel planned to hand over the control of Gaza to “Arab forces”, although he did not give details about possible arrangements or which countries could be involved. Still, this was a rare indication of what he might be envisioning for a post-war Gaza.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c1mpe9x80xvt

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Simplestars · 08/08/2025 07:02

Netanyahu has made life's of Israelis in danger worldwide.

He has also destroyed the life's of palestinians.

The man should be removed and put behind bars asap.

Twiglets1 · 08/08/2025 07:14

Reported in Times of Israel & other sources:

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office confirms that the security cabinet has approved his plan for the IDF to take over Gaza City in the north of the enclave.

Israel will provide humanitarian aid to the civilian population outside of combat zones, the PMO says in a statement on what it says was the decision by the cabinet to back Netanyahu’s “proposal to defeat Hamas.”

A majority of cabinet members also backed a list of five principles that Israel will demand in exchange for ending the war with Hamas, the Prime Minister’s Office says, describing them as follows.

1. The disarmament of Hamas
2. The return of all 50 remaining hostages, 20 of whom are believed to be alive
3. The demilitarization of the Gaza Strip.
4. Israeli security control over the Gaza Strip.
5. The existence of an alternative civilian government that is not Hamas or the Palestinian Authority.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-august-8-2025/

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NotEnoughKnittingTime · 08/08/2025 07:15

Just another step to what was planned all along. The removal of the population and settlers coming in and taking over the land.

Twiglets1 · 08/08/2025 07:16

The Times of Israel notes that it’s unclear why the statement only refers to conquering Gaza City and not the occupation of the entirety of the Gaza Strip, as Netanyahu declared on Thursday was his plan.

Gaza City is part of the 25 percent of the Strip that the IDF has yet to conquer, along with several refugee camps in central Gaza.

It’s unclear whether those other unconquered areas outside of Gaza City will also be taken over, as part of the plan authorized by the security cabinet.
The decision to highlight Gaza City indicates that the military takeover will be gradual and at least start there.

The operation will likely require the evacuation of Gaza City where some 800,000 Gazans currently reside. The move will further shrink the amount of territory where Gaza’s population of roughly 2 million people is allowed to reside.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-august-8-2025/

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Twiglets1 · 08/08/2025 07:23

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 08/08/2025 07:15

Just another step to what was planned all along. The removal of the population and settlers coming in and taking over the land.

Maybe, though Netanyahu was very specific in his Fox interview that he wants to hand the land over to Arab forces to govern Gaza.

“We don’t want to keep it. We want to have a security perimeter. We don’t want to govern it. We don’t want to be there as a governing body.”

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Dangermoo · 08/08/2025 08:07

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 08/08/2025 07:15

Just another step to what was planned all along. The removal of the population and settlers coming in and taking over the land.

Israel doesn't want Gaza.

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