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Israeli cleric Rabbi Ronen Shaulov calls for the starvation of all civilians in Gaza

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TulipLavender · 03/08/2025 01:35

https://youtube.com/shorts/RFFcB8mEabs?si=Fo30dm4_Qy2sLjhP

He says every child in Gaza should starve to death.

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DeftShaker · 03/08/2025 01:55

A tremendous evil, as are other extremists of his ilk.

Unfortunately, some of them are in Israel's current government.

Ciara1988 · 03/08/2025 04:25

another genocidal maniac 😢

Martymcfly24 · 03/08/2025 07:54

Israeli Heritage Minister : Amichai Eliyahu : "The army must find ways more painful than death for the civilians in Gaza. Killing them is not enough "

Israeli Minister for Transportation : Miri Regev : "There is no famine, no humanitarian disaster and no innocents or uninvolved people in the Gaza Strip "

Sounds like the Rabbi is in good company.

fixingmylife · 03/08/2025 10:20

How the whole world is not insisting that these people are all tried in The Hague is beyond me. It's becoming normalised and people are becoming less shocked by this. We are becoming desensitised and it is setting a hugely dangerous president.

TakeMe2Insanity · 03/08/2025 10:22

And there will be a special place him hell for people like him.

Martymcfly24 · 03/08/2025 10:38

Two Nice Jewish guys podcast " if you gave me a button in the morning to erase Gaza , every single living being would be no longer living I would press it in a second and most Israelis would" (actually look up their podcast if you want to see true hate)

Avigdor Lieberman ( member of Knesset) "if it were up to me not a crumb would enter Gaza"

Ben Gvir "We need to occupy all of Gaza, stop humanitarian aid and encourage migration "

Amichau Eliyahu: Since there are no innocents in Gaza an atomic bomb is a possibility.

smallglassbottle · 03/08/2025 11:19

The wheels have well and truly come off now.

Rosesandteashops · 03/08/2025 11:31

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Martymcfly24 · 03/08/2025 11:45

Not just Israeli politicians too.

Congressman Randy Fine : "Release the hostages.

Until then, starve away.
(This is all a lie anyway. It amazes me that the media continues to regurgitate Muslim terror propaganda.)"
Congressman Andy Ogles : "kill them all" when asked about Palestinian children.

Apologies for the posts but it is a constant rhetoric on these threads that Palestinian hatred has caused all the issues when it is very clear that hatred exists on both sides.

And that Rabbi is vile. A man of religion to say those things is disgusting

TulipLavender · 03/08/2025 12:47

Thanks. It's definitely not just an isolated incident but part of a much broader pattern of a clear genocidal intent from the beginning.

Mainstream media has failed to adequateky cover how clear the intention has been and how much of this genocidal language ans motive has seaped into Israeli cultural dialogue. It needs to be recognised and called out.

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TulipLavender · 03/08/2025 13:06

You can find countless examples of the how the Israeli mindset has been indoctrinated to hate and want death to all Palestinians. They are not hiding it.

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MrsSkylerWhite · 03/08/2025 13:11

These people believe that this is what their god would want? They are monsters.

fixingmylife · 03/08/2025 14:23

Do they think they will get away with this?
Saying that, with Trump in charge, they probably will. I can't bear it.

MrsSkylerWhite · 03/08/2025 18:28

fixingmylife · 03/08/2025 14:23

Do they think they will get away with this?
Saying that, with Trump in charge, they probably will. I can't bear it.

Of course they will. Unless they leave Israel, which is unlikely.

Martymcfly24 · 03/08/2025 19:14

They will get away with it because it echoes what lots of posters on here say.

Then you see what happened in Sydney today and faith in humanity is restored.

Echobelly · 03/08/2025 19:21

These people awful and I want to assure you, not typical of Jewish people or rabbis! They are utterly vile

A lot of, possibly most, Jews in the diaspora are too slow to accept what is happening because they feel very convinced that the world hates us and Israel is the only place they are really safe and that the way to protect it is to try and create reasons why it's not that bad, or isn't happening etc. They don't hate Palestinians or want babies to die but they are in denial. And honestly I think if we want to protect ourselves and any future for Israel, we need to be collectively calling it out, but a lot of Jews find that hard to do.

But yeah, there are no excuses for the 'all Palestinians are terrorists/there are no innocent Palestinians' people, they are a revolting crowd.

MrsSkylerWhite · 03/08/2025 19:23

Echobelly · 03/08/2025 19:21

These people awful and I want to assure you, not typical of Jewish people or rabbis! They are utterly vile

A lot of, possibly most, Jews in the diaspora are too slow to accept what is happening because they feel very convinced that the world hates us and Israel is the only place they are really safe and that the way to protect it is to try and create reasons why it's not that bad, or isn't happening etc. They don't hate Palestinians or want babies to die but they are in denial. And honestly I think if we want to protect ourselves and any future for Israel, we need to be collectively calling it out, but a lot of Jews find that hard to do.

But yeah, there are no excuses for the 'all Palestinians are terrorists/there are no innocent Palestinians' people, they are a revolting crowd.

So, so sorry that life must be so difficult for you right now 🙏🏻

Voxon · 03/08/2025 19:56

TulipLavender · 03/08/2025 13:06

You can find countless examples of the how the Israeli mindset has been indoctrinated to hate and want death to all Palestinians. They are not hiding it.

There is no evidence of any kind to support the lie that Israelis are indoctrinated to want the death of all Palestinians.

There is significant, compelling evidence that Palestinians are indoctrinated to hate Jews, and even to want to death of all Israelis, or actually all Jews.

That includes just to name a few....

  1. School Textbooks & Teaching Materials

Studies of PA-issued textbooks, including religion and history books, have documented antisemitic content and glorification of violence. For example, a Grade 11 history lesson portrays Jews as controlling the world through classic antisemitic iconography; an Islamic education text frames Jews as deceitful manipulators opposing Islam. Martyrdom and jihad are romanticized in poems describing martyr figures reborn in glory through blood sacrifice .

  1. Media & UNRWA Teaching Staff

Reports reveal UNRWA teachers posting on social media calls for murdering Jews, glorifying terrorism, and encouraging martyrdom. One 2023 report cited 133 educators involved in such content, and many staff engaged in distribution of these materials to students .

  1. Political Messaging & Official Discourse

The Palestinian Authority (PA) frequently issues statements framing Jews and Israelis as the root of global evil, denying Israel’s legitimacy. High-level. Such messaging is part of sustained political antisemitism embedded in official language. Hamas founding charter calls for the death of all Jews.

  1. “Pay‑for‑Slay” / Martyrs’ Fund

Annual budget allocations by the PA provide monthly stipends to Palestinians imprisoned for attacking Israelis, and released terrorists were often rewarded with public-sector jobs.

  1. Glorification in Classroom Materials

A dossier reported (Aug 2025) claims PA-run schools glorify specific suicide bombers and terrorists, such as: Hanadi Jaradat and Dalal al-Mughrabi, depicted as heroines in textbooks and school naming. Exercises like arithmetic problems asking students to count numbers of “martyrs”martyrs.

There is a plethora of evidence of Incitement / Hate messaging drawn from independent monitoring groups (IMPACT‑SE), parliamentary‐level reviews (Eckert Institute, EU / UK), NGO oversight (Palestinian Media Watch), elected body hearings (U.S. Congress), and major press disclosures.

So I'm fascinated regarding why you are reversing the evidenced narrative? Quite sickening.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 03/08/2025 20:00

Martymcfly24 · 03/08/2025 19:14

They will get away with it because it echoes what lots of posters on here say.

Then you see what happened in Sydney today and faith in humanity is restored.

I literally opened mumsnet today and read:

“What is it with pro-Palestinians in that the moment you try and have a measured conversation about why we are where we are,
they churn out a punchy statement about killing babies?
Why can't they just have a sensible two way conversation about the conflict?”

and closed the tab.

Voxon · 03/08/2025 20:10

Martymcfly24 · 03/08/2025 19:14

They will get away with it because it echoes what lots of posters on here say.

Then you see what happened in Sydney today and faith in humanity is restored.

The scenes in Sydney included sweatshirts calling for death, Al Qaeda flags, Taliban flags, Hamas flags, Swastikas and a bloody great portrait of Ayatollah Khamenei.

It restored your faith in humanity!!!

Good grief.

Israeli cleric Rabbi Ronen Shaulov calls for the starvation of all civilians in Gaza
Israeli cleric Rabbi Ronen Shaulov calls for the starvation of all civilians in Gaza
Israeli cleric Rabbi Ronen Shaulov calls for the starvation of all civilians in Gaza
Israeli cleric Rabbi Ronen Shaulov calls for the starvation of all civilians in Gaza
Wedonttalkaboutboris · 03/08/2025 20:28

Voxon · 03/08/2025 20:10

The scenes in Sydney included sweatshirts calling for death, Al Qaeda flags, Taliban flags, Hamas flags, Swastikas and a bloody great portrait of Ayatollah Khamenei.

It restored your faith in humanity!!!

Good grief.

Do you have sources of the sweatshirts calling for death? Or multiple swastikas? There is no credible reporting or imagery confirming protesters wearing sweatshirts calling for genocide, multiple swastikas, or widespread hateful symbolism beyond the noted isolated cases.

Mainstream coverage emphasises the monumental scale and peaceful nature of the event, with only a few flag and sign incidents drawing criticism.

Rosesandteashops · 03/08/2025 20:30

I don't know why my post was deleted. I can't think what talk guideline I've violated. But for clarity, I'm disgusted that anyone could be saying that children should starve.

TulipLavender · 03/08/2025 20:39

Voxon · 03/08/2025 19:56

There is no evidence of any kind to support the lie that Israelis are indoctrinated to want the death of all Palestinians.

There is significant, compelling evidence that Palestinians are indoctrinated to hate Jews, and even to want to death of all Israelis, or actually all Jews.

That includes just to name a few....

  1. School Textbooks & Teaching Materials

Studies of PA-issued textbooks, including religion and history books, have documented antisemitic content and glorification of violence. For example, a Grade 11 history lesson portrays Jews as controlling the world through classic antisemitic iconography; an Islamic education text frames Jews as deceitful manipulators opposing Islam. Martyrdom and jihad are romanticized in poems describing martyr figures reborn in glory through blood sacrifice .

  1. Media & UNRWA Teaching Staff

Reports reveal UNRWA teachers posting on social media calls for murdering Jews, glorifying terrorism, and encouraging martyrdom. One 2023 report cited 133 educators involved in such content, and many staff engaged in distribution of these materials to students .

  1. Political Messaging & Official Discourse

The Palestinian Authority (PA) frequently issues statements framing Jews and Israelis as the root of global evil, denying Israel’s legitimacy. High-level. Such messaging is part of sustained political antisemitism embedded in official language. Hamas founding charter calls for the death of all Jews.

  1. “Pay‑for‑Slay” / Martyrs’ Fund

Annual budget allocations by the PA provide monthly stipends to Palestinians imprisoned for attacking Israelis, and released terrorists were often rewarded with public-sector jobs.

  1. Glorification in Classroom Materials

A dossier reported (Aug 2025) claims PA-run schools glorify specific suicide bombers and terrorists, such as: Hanadi Jaradat and Dalal al-Mughrabi, depicted as heroines in textbooks and school naming. Exercises like arithmetic problems asking students to count numbers of “martyrs”martyrs.

There is a plethora of evidence of Incitement / Hate messaging drawn from independent monitoring groups (IMPACT‑SE), parliamentary‐level reviews (Eckert Institute, EU / UK), NGO oversight (Palestinian Media Watch), elected body hearings (U.S. Congress), and major press disclosures.

So I'm fascinated regarding why you are reversing the evidenced narrative? Quite sickening.

I dont find any of what you set out acceptable either. The indoctrination of hate on both sides needs to be eliminated.

Unfortunately, ive seen enough social media evidence showing hundreds and hundreds of Israelis openly calling for the death of Palestinians and media channels openly call for the death of Palestinians (even the right to rape Palestinian prisoners) that i know for a fact that there is a strong indoctrination of hatred of Israelis against Palestinians. If you want all of the evidence it can be shared here over the next few days and weeks.

We see from the posts on mumsnet that pro-Israeli opinions will do anything to deny and deflect any reality of wrong doing on the part of Israel, even when the evidence is overwhelming. It's so hard for those of us who are genuinely deeply concerned and in pain about ongoing death and destruction of so many Palestinians to engage with the complete denial and obfuscation from defenders of Israel who seem to prefer to smear us all as bad faith actors or supporters of hamas rather than to meaningful engage in the recognition that this isn't a good vs evil situation, that there is pain and fear and accountability needed on both sides.

As a PP commented this absolutely is not a Jewish issue and the comments made on this thread by the Rabbi and some other Israeli officials do not reflect the overwhelming majority of Jewish people and we all have to fight against antisemitism. There are so many amazing Jewish people who are raising their voice in opposition of what is happening.

When there is clear evidence of genocidal incitement and mindset it needs to be called out.

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Voxon · 03/08/2025 20:41

I saw "wedonttalkaboutboris quoted you in a thread" and just knew it would be exactly what you've posted.

God, it nauseates me it honestly does.

Denial, denial, denial. It's pathetic.

Read what I wrote:

"included sweatshirts calling for death, Al Qaeda flags, Taliban flags, Hamas flags, Swastikas and a bloody great portrait of Ayatollah Khamenei

You reply:

"There is no credible reporting or imagery confirming protesters wearing sweatshirts calling for genocide"

Well thanks for letting us know but nobody said there was. I said there was sweatshirts calling for death. Image attached of one example.

I've included images in my post of support for Hamas, the Taliban, Al Qaeda I believe, or some other terror organisation.

There is no such thing as an event which includes flags like this, sweatshirts like this or even a SINGLE image of a swastika which can be classified as "peaceful".

I am sick, sick, sick of this.

No swastikas are acceptable.
No calls for death are acceptable.
No Hamas flags are acceptable.

The fact that you believe they are, to a point you see them and describe the event as "peaceful" and restoring your "faith in humanity" is so bloody revealing!!!

Israeli cleric Rabbi Ronen Shaulov calls for the starvation of all civilians in Gaza
TulipLavender · 03/08/2025 20:41

Echobelly · 03/08/2025 19:21

These people awful and I want to assure you, not typical of Jewish people or rabbis! They are utterly vile

A lot of, possibly most, Jews in the diaspora are too slow to accept what is happening because they feel very convinced that the world hates us and Israel is the only place they are really safe and that the way to protect it is to try and create reasons why it's not that bad, or isn't happening etc. They don't hate Palestinians or want babies to die but they are in denial. And honestly I think if we want to protect ourselves and any future for Israel, we need to be collectively calling it out, but a lot of Jews find that hard to do.

But yeah, there are no excuses for the 'all Palestinians are terrorists/there are no innocent Palestinians' people, they are a revolting crowd.

Absolutely agree!

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