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Conflict in the Middle East

Israeli cleric Rabbi Ronen Shaulov calls for the starvation of all civilians in Gaza

323 replies

TulipLavender · 03/08/2025 01:35

https://youtube.com/shorts/RFFcB8mEabs?si=Fo30dm4_Qy2sLjhP

He says every child in Gaza should starve to death.

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https://youtube.com/shorts/RFFcB8mEabs?si=Fo30dm4_Qy2sLjhP

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Gardeninging · 04/08/2025 15:20

Voxon · 03/08/2025 19:56

There is no evidence of any kind to support the lie that Israelis are indoctrinated to want the death of all Palestinians.

There is significant, compelling evidence that Palestinians are indoctrinated to hate Jews, and even to want to death of all Israelis, or actually all Jews.

That includes just to name a few....

  1. School Textbooks & Teaching Materials

Studies of PA-issued textbooks, including religion and history books, have documented antisemitic content and glorification of violence. For example, a Grade 11 history lesson portrays Jews as controlling the world through classic antisemitic iconography; an Islamic education text frames Jews as deceitful manipulators opposing Islam. Martyrdom and jihad are romanticized in poems describing martyr figures reborn in glory through blood sacrifice .

  1. Media & UNRWA Teaching Staff

Reports reveal UNRWA teachers posting on social media calls for murdering Jews, glorifying terrorism, and encouraging martyrdom. One 2023 report cited 133 educators involved in such content, and many staff engaged in distribution of these materials to students .

  1. Political Messaging & Official Discourse

The Palestinian Authority (PA) frequently issues statements framing Jews and Israelis as the root of global evil, denying Israel’s legitimacy. High-level. Such messaging is part of sustained political antisemitism embedded in official language. Hamas founding charter calls for the death of all Jews.

  1. “Pay‑for‑Slay” / Martyrs’ Fund

Annual budget allocations by the PA provide monthly stipends to Palestinians imprisoned for attacking Israelis, and released terrorists were often rewarded with public-sector jobs.

  1. Glorification in Classroom Materials

A dossier reported (Aug 2025) claims PA-run schools glorify specific suicide bombers and terrorists, such as: Hanadi Jaradat and Dalal al-Mughrabi, depicted as heroines in textbooks and school naming. Exercises like arithmetic problems asking students to count numbers of “martyrs”martyrs.

There is a plethora of evidence of Incitement / Hate messaging drawn from independent monitoring groups (IMPACT‑SE), parliamentary‐level reviews (Eckert Institute, EU / UK), NGO oversight (Palestinian Media Watch), elected body hearings (U.S. Congress), and major press disclosures.

So I'm fascinated regarding why you are reversing the evidenced narrative? Quite sickening.

Have you ever listened to Isrealis? Isreali politicians? Rabbis in Isreal?
They don't even consider Palestinians to be human.

Gardeninging · 04/08/2025 15:22

The only sickening thing about what we are being confronted with, is that people are still crying "anti-semitism" instead of actually accepting the truth.

ConscientiousObserver · 04/08/2025 16:20

MyDarlingWhatIfYouFly · 04/08/2025 03:26

Children.

You are the one who is clearly fucking insane.

Maybe you could add a bit of context to your response.

What do you think Palestinians thought about Israeli children on Oct 7th?

The 40 that were murdered in cold blood in a barbaric rampage.

The celebrations by civilians in the streets filmed by themselves.

The 30 that were kidnapped and dragged into Gaza.

Held in civilian homes

The 9 month old and 4 year old strangled to death then mutilated with rocks, who’s fake funerals Palestinians attended with their own children dancing to music.

I can understand some Israeli’s belief that Palestinian children will be brought up radicalised to hate them. There is plenty of evidence of that that I can access here, probably more accessible over there.

Why do you think Israelis should care more about Palestinian children than Palestinians care about Israeli children?

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 04/08/2025 16:34

ConscientiousObserver · 04/08/2025 16:20

Maybe you could add a bit of context to your response.

What do you think Palestinians thought about Israeli children on Oct 7th?

The 40 that were murdered in cold blood in a barbaric rampage.

The celebrations by civilians in the streets filmed by themselves.

The 30 that were kidnapped and dragged into Gaza.

Held in civilian homes

The 9 month old and 4 year old strangled to death then mutilated with rocks, who’s fake funerals Palestinians attended with their own children dancing to music.

I can understand some Israeli’s belief that Palestinian children will be brought up radicalised to hate them. There is plenty of evidence of that that I can access here, probably more accessible over there.

Why do you think Israelis should care more about Palestinian children than Palestinians care about Israeli children?

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Why do you think Israelis should care more about Palestinian children than Palestinians care about Israeli children?

I don't think anyone is expecting Israelis to care about Palestinian children or the reverse, it would be good if they could though.
People do expect a sane position would be not wishing suffering or death on children whoever they are or come from. Rabbi Ronen Shaulov is clearly not a sane, rational or religious person.

bombastix · 04/08/2025 16:50

Echobelly · 04/08/2025 15:16

This is my fear - Netanyahu was already moving towards being more selective on who they allowed to be considered Jewish before all this kicked off. I can see it becoming a place where only aggressive nationalists are permitted if it doesn't change direction.

I would say it was already there. It will be what you need to get on, much like any ideology. Israel has chosen a path that will change it for a long time, and not for the better.

quantumbutterfly · 04/08/2025 16:57

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 04/08/2025 16:34

Why do you think Israelis should care more about Palestinian children than Palestinians care about Israeli children?

I don't think anyone is expecting Israelis to care about Palestinian children or the reverse, it would be good if they could though.
People do expect a sane position would be not wishing suffering or death on children whoever they are or come from. Rabbi Ronen Shaulov is clearly not a sane, rational or religious person.

Rabbi Ronen Shaulov is clearly not a sane, rational or religious person.

There are plenty of people who justify their hatred through religion, in fact it's quite common.
Nice people have nice gods as Grayson Perry once said.

JamesMacGill · 04/08/2025 16:58

Yes and a great many more Islamic ‘clerics’ call for the annihilation of Israel and sometimes the West entirely.

JamesMacGill · 04/08/2025 17:01

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 04/08/2025 16:34

Why do you think Israelis should care more about Palestinian children than Palestinians care about Israeli children?

I don't think anyone is expecting Israelis to care about Palestinian children or the reverse, it would be good if they could though.
People do expect a sane position would be not wishing suffering or death on children whoever they are or come from. Rabbi Ronen Shaulov is clearly not a sane, rational or religious person.

By that logic none of the adults in Gaza are sane either. Who takes their kids to celebrate the murder and mutilation of a baby?

Dangermoo · 04/08/2025 17:01

JamesMacGill · 04/08/2025 16:58

Yes and a great many more Islamic ‘clerics’ call for the annihilation of Israel and sometimes the West entirely.

Yep, including the annihilation of children. Why is this any different.

JamesMacGill · 04/08/2025 17:04

Dangermoo · 04/08/2025 17:01

Yep, including the annihilation of children. Why is this any different.

Because they’re not Jewish.

Dangermoo · 04/08/2025 17:08

JamesMacGill · 04/08/2025 17:04

Because they’re not Jewish.

I'm not surprised, anymore. I'm not even Jewish, but it's worn me down. I think that's the plan.

MushMonster · 04/08/2025 17:10

I think we are in need of building a jail to contain those guilty in this conflict. The vile is endless. And there seem to be plenty of them!
I would get an island somewhere and let Hamas, the other islamists groups in the area and the likud leaders loose there and see what happens.... including the groups Netanyahu is so happy to arm in Gaza (I really cannot get my head around how on Earth he gets away with these things.. how?!)
Though I reckon they would gang up together, agree in which people does not exist next and take them over, one way or another.....

MushMonster · 04/08/2025 17:21

Dangermoo · 04/08/2025 17:01

Yep, including the annihilation of children. Why is this any different.

Of course it is not any different.
The same rage sentiment applies to all those killed or hurt on the 7th of October, the following bombings, from different fronts. And any prior. This is a long and bloody conflict.
The famine in Gaza is happening as we speak. Which is why it is in focus. Also man made, by a sovereign State.

Hamas is guilty, nothing could be more true. But Netanyahu and the far right parties in Israel are guilty too. If they had any desire for peace and some morals, there would not be so much suffering, on both sides of the border.
Netanyahu and company are wiping the floor with Israel's name. It is a stain that will stay for a long long time. And it is affecting Israelis.

Twiglets1 · 04/08/2025 17:46

quantumbutterfly · 04/08/2025 16:57

Rabbi Ronen Shaulov is clearly not a sane, rational or religious person.

There are plenty of people who justify their hatred through religion, in fact it's quite common.
Nice people have nice gods as Grayson Perry once said.

I like that quote from Grayson Perry.

Couldn't really be bothered to address the issue of Rabbi Ronen Shaulov as he's just one person with rotten views. Lots of other religious extremists with horrible views but of course OP highlights this particular one to provide evidence of... not much really considering there are religious extremists on both sides of this war and they do not represent the majority view.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 04/08/2025 17:57

JamesMacGill · 04/08/2025 17:01

By that logic none of the adults in Gaza are sane either. Who takes their kids to celebrate the murder and mutilation of a baby?

By that logic none of the adults in Gaza are sane either.
None of the adults? Did every adult in Gaza take their kids to that?

Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice · 04/08/2025 18:13

Twiglets1 · 04/08/2025 17:46

I like that quote from Grayson Perry.

Couldn't really be bothered to address the issue of Rabbi Ronen Shaulov as he's just one person with rotten views. Lots of other religious extremists with horrible views but of course OP highlights this particular one to provide evidence of... not much really considering there are religious extremists on both sides of this war and they do not represent the majority view.

Okay so he's just one (quite influential) person.
But what of the comments by Netanyahu and various members of his government, are the ones suggesting they are morally justified for starving everyone to death, suggesting dropping a nuke, suggesting they find new ways to make death more painful than just starvation, the ones saying Palestinians aren't even human, the ones advocating building and relocating by force the population to a concentration camp. And that's just a few examples of the top of my head. The Likud party's constitution is anti a two-state solution, and pro taking over the entirety of the land.

These aren't just fringe extremists, they embody the heart of the government, its ministers, it's prime minister. And it's a status quo that the civilian population are not raising up in mass protest against.

Martymcfly24 · 04/08/2025 18:27

JamesMacGill · 04/08/2025 17:01

By that logic none of the adults in Gaza are sane either. Who takes their kids to celebrate the murder and mutilation of a baby?

Who takes a picnic watching the destruction of Gaza from a lookout.
Who goes on a boat trip to watch it also?
Who spits on Christians and prays on a sacred Muslim site just to break an agreement?
Who stops aid trucks and stomps on the aid?

Doesn't sound like particularly "sane" people either now does it?

Voxon · 04/08/2025 18:58

There’s an astounding level of double standards and intellectual dishonesty in the way people talk about Israel and Palestine. And let’s not pretend it’s a coincidence. Much of it mirrors the language of 3,000 years of antisemitism, now dressed up as activism, and it aligns neatly with today’s broader “anti-West” obsession.

Let’s be honest: the so-called “pro-Palestine” marches regularly feature open support for terrorism, chants celebrating the murder of Jews and Israelis, graphic antisemitism - swastikas, people dressed as Holocaust victims, banners calling for Israel’s eradication - and a complete absence of any empathy for the hostages still held by Hamas.

This isn’t fringe - it’s been a repeated feature at every major march, and it coincides with the worst surge in antisemitism since the 1930s. I am so, so, so tired of people denying this.

It insults the intelligence of everyone when you call these “peaceful marches.” If that were true, we’d hear calls for Hamas to surrender, or for hostages to be released. But those voices are either attacked, drowned out, or in some countries, even arrested. The silence is deafening - and telling.

Now contrast that with pro-Israel demonstrations: they actually are peaceful. You don’t see chants for death, terror glorification, racist iconography, or mobs gathered outside mosques to intimidate Muslims. Even if some attendees oppose a Palestinian state, they’re not chanting it in the streets or turning it into a campaign of public harassment. That’s the difference.

And the fact that so many people refuse to see this speaks volumes.

Beyond the marches, there is again so much objective dishonesty here that I am really amazed people try and get away with it.

I have no doubt many Israelis are not good people - same as everywhere else. I am sure some politicians are supremacists or complete bastards - same as everywhere else. I imagine many Israelis don't want a Palestinian state. I imagine many Israelis are racist or bigoted - the same as anywhere else. I also imagine a lot of Israelis are very fucking pissed off with people murdering them, and have probably lost interest in trying to make peace.

But the comparison between Palestinian hatred of Jews and Israeli sentiment toward Palestinians is utterly absurd. It’s not two sides of the same coin - it’s a false equivalence pushed by people desperate to flatten the moral landscape.

In Israel, there was entire networks of Jewish Israelis who risk their lives to help Palestinians:

– Lawyers offering free legal aid to Palestinians in court
– Volunteers who drive sick Palestinians to Israeli hospitals for treatment
– Hospitals that treat Palestinian children, including relatives of terrorists or terrorists themselves!
– Businesses that employ Palestinians, even during times of heightened tension

Now show me the equivalent in the Palestinian territories?

You can’t - because it doesn’t exist. Jews cannot even enter Palestinian cities without risking lynching. There are no networks of Palestinians helping Jews. There are no Palestinians who helped Israelis on October 7. Not a single one has helped the hostages.

Instead, what you get is:
– Schoolbooks glorifying terrorists and teaching that Jews are subhuman
– Public squares and summer camps named after murderers
– Songs and TV shows praising stabbing attacks
– A society where the more Jews you kill, the more you're celebrated as a hero

There are no laws in Israel that say you get paid money if you blow up a Palestinian school bus - in fact you would go to prison and be universally condemned if you did that.

For all the criticism of the IDF, do you see them dragging a body back and having Israelis celebrate in the street and spit on the corpses?

Do you see them murdering people and televising it as a parade where children cheer?

NO!

Not even the worst, most hateful, most racist, vile Israeli you can think of would actually ever condone those acts. So that’s not a “both sides” situation That’s one society maintaining a basic level of humanity, and another that has institutionalised hatred and murder as a virtue.

Now I add here that I am certain all children in Gaza are completely innocent, they are victims more than anybody. And certainly there will be large numbers of the Gazan population who don't participate in any of this and who don't want to murder anyone - but what we are talking about here is a culture of hate versus a culture of peace.

Israel has extremists on the fringes - the other has extremists running the curriculum, the airwaves, and the government. And the refusal to acknowledge this difference is either ignorance - or wilful complicity. More than anything because those who refuse to acknowledge this are really cursing the innocent children to 80 more years of this.

sualipa · 04/08/2025 19:15

MrsSkylerWhite · 03/08/2025 19:23

So, so sorry that life must be so difficult for you right now 🙏🏻

Israel absolutely has the right to exist, to thrive, and to be a homeland for the Jewish people especially for those who wish to return. But if that nation is built without acknowledging the injustices committed since its founding, and perpetuated over many decades, then true peace will sadly remain out of reach.

When the extreme nationalist assassinated Yitzhak Rabin, Netanyahu and his cohorts not only cheered but also helped deepen the divisions that made peace impossible. Netanyahu’s incendiary rhetoric in the aftermath fueled the very forces that undermined any chance of reconciliation and peace. He belongs in The Hague.

Martymcfly24 · 04/08/2025 19:16

'culture of hate versus a culture of peace."
"Israel has extremists on the fringes"

@Voxon Have you literally ignored all the evidence on this thread that this statement is farcical?

Minister for the Advancement of Women May Golan said in a speech in February 2024 "I am personally proud of the ruins of Gaza, and that every baby, even 80 years from now, will tell their grandchildren what the Jews did."

As you said 80 more years of this for innocent children.

TulipLavender · 04/08/2025 19:25

Voxon · 04/08/2025 18:58

There’s an astounding level of double standards and intellectual dishonesty in the way people talk about Israel and Palestine. And let’s not pretend it’s a coincidence. Much of it mirrors the language of 3,000 years of antisemitism, now dressed up as activism, and it aligns neatly with today’s broader “anti-West” obsession.

Let’s be honest: the so-called “pro-Palestine” marches regularly feature open support for terrorism, chants celebrating the murder of Jews and Israelis, graphic antisemitism - swastikas, people dressed as Holocaust victims, banners calling for Israel’s eradication - and a complete absence of any empathy for the hostages still held by Hamas.

This isn’t fringe - it’s been a repeated feature at every major march, and it coincides with the worst surge in antisemitism since the 1930s. I am so, so, so tired of people denying this.

It insults the intelligence of everyone when you call these “peaceful marches.” If that were true, we’d hear calls for Hamas to surrender, or for hostages to be released. But those voices are either attacked, drowned out, or in some countries, even arrested. The silence is deafening - and telling.

Now contrast that with pro-Israel demonstrations: they actually are peaceful. You don’t see chants for death, terror glorification, racist iconography, or mobs gathered outside mosques to intimidate Muslims. Even if some attendees oppose a Palestinian state, they’re not chanting it in the streets or turning it into a campaign of public harassment. That’s the difference.

And the fact that so many people refuse to see this speaks volumes.

Beyond the marches, there is again so much objective dishonesty here that I am really amazed people try and get away with it.

I have no doubt many Israelis are not good people - same as everywhere else. I am sure some politicians are supremacists or complete bastards - same as everywhere else. I imagine many Israelis don't want a Palestinian state. I imagine many Israelis are racist or bigoted - the same as anywhere else. I also imagine a lot of Israelis are very fucking pissed off with people murdering them, and have probably lost interest in trying to make peace.

But the comparison between Palestinian hatred of Jews and Israeli sentiment toward Palestinians is utterly absurd. It’s not two sides of the same coin - it’s a false equivalence pushed by people desperate to flatten the moral landscape.

In Israel, there was entire networks of Jewish Israelis who risk their lives to help Palestinians:

– Lawyers offering free legal aid to Palestinians in court
– Volunteers who drive sick Palestinians to Israeli hospitals for treatment
– Hospitals that treat Palestinian children, including relatives of terrorists or terrorists themselves!
– Businesses that employ Palestinians, even during times of heightened tension

Now show me the equivalent in the Palestinian territories?

You can’t - because it doesn’t exist. Jews cannot even enter Palestinian cities without risking lynching. There are no networks of Palestinians helping Jews. There are no Palestinians who helped Israelis on October 7. Not a single one has helped the hostages.

Instead, what you get is:
– Schoolbooks glorifying terrorists and teaching that Jews are subhuman
– Public squares and summer camps named after murderers
– Songs and TV shows praising stabbing attacks
– A society where the more Jews you kill, the more you're celebrated as a hero

There are no laws in Israel that say you get paid money if you blow up a Palestinian school bus - in fact you would go to prison and be universally condemned if you did that.

For all the criticism of the IDF, do you see them dragging a body back and having Israelis celebrate in the street and spit on the corpses?

Do you see them murdering people and televising it as a parade where children cheer?

NO!

Not even the worst, most hateful, most racist, vile Israeli you can think of would actually ever condone those acts. So that’s not a “both sides” situation That’s one society maintaining a basic level of humanity, and another that has institutionalised hatred and murder as a virtue.

Now I add here that I am certain all children in Gaza are completely innocent, they are victims more than anybody. And certainly there will be large numbers of the Gazan population who don't participate in any of this and who don't want to murder anyone - but what we are talking about here is a culture of hate versus a culture of peace.

Israel has extremists on the fringes - the other has extremists running the curriculum, the airwaves, and the government. And the refusal to acknowledge this difference is either ignorance - or wilful complicity. More than anything because those who refuse to acknowledge this are really cursing the innocent children to 80 more years of this.

Any analysis of the situation that omits the most obvious fact of the ongoing occupation of Palestinian territory by Israel and the decimation of the population of gaza is crazily incomplete.

We are pointing out a clear genocidal rhethoric not only being spoken but actively enacted and all you can see is antisemitism which all posters have been clear and explicit avoid.

Chants of from the river to the sea are seen as antisemitic whilst Israel is not chanting that but enforcing it as a reality.

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Twiglets1 · 04/08/2025 19:34

Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice · 04/08/2025 18:13

Okay so he's just one (quite influential) person.
But what of the comments by Netanyahu and various members of his government, are the ones suggesting they are morally justified for starving everyone to death, suggesting dropping a nuke, suggesting they find new ways to make death more painful than just starvation, the ones saying Palestinians aren't even human, the ones advocating building and relocating by force the population to a concentration camp. And that's just a few examples of the top of my head. The Likud party's constitution is anti a two-state solution, and pro taking over the entirety of the land.

These aren't just fringe extremists, they embody the heart of the government, its ministers, it's prime minister. And it's a status quo that the civilian population are not raising up in mass protest against.

If you're going to make a stream of claims then please provide legitimate sources (not what someone said on X or Instagram) so I know which are legitimate and which exaggerated.

Gardeninging · 04/08/2025 20:27

Voxon · 04/08/2025 18:58

There’s an astounding level of double standards and intellectual dishonesty in the way people talk about Israel and Palestine. And let’s not pretend it’s a coincidence. Much of it mirrors the language of 3,000 years of antisemitism, now dressed up as activism, and it aligns neatly with today’s broader “anti-West” obsession.

Let’s be honest: the so-called “pro-Palestine” marches regularly feature open support for terrorism, chants celebrating the murder of Jews and Israelis, graphic antisemitism - swastikas, people dressed as Holocaust victims, banners calling for Israel’s eradication - and a complete absence of any empathy for the hostages still held by Hamas.

This isn’t fringe - it’s been a repeated feature at every major march, and it coincides with the worst surge in antisemitism since the 1930s. I am so, so, so tired of people denying this.

It insults the intelligence of everyone when you call these “peaceful marches.” If that were true, we’d hear calls for Hamas to surrender, or for hostages to be released. But those voices are either attacked, drowned out, or in some countries, even arrested. The silence is deafening - and telling.

Now contrast that with pro-Israel demonstrations: they actually are peaceful. You don’t see chants for death, terror glorification, racist iconography, or mobs gathered outside mosques to intimidate Muslims. Even if some attendees oppose a Palestinian state, they’re not chanting it in the streets or turning it into a campaign of public harassment. That’s the difference.

And the fact that so many people refuse to see this speaks volumes.

Beyond the marches, there is again so much objective dishonesty here that I am really amazed people try and get away with it.

I have no doubt many Israelis are not good people - same as everywhere else. I am sure some politicians are supremacists or complete bastards - same as everywhere else. I imagine many Israelis don't want a Palestinian state. I imagine many Israelis are racist or bigoted - the same as anywhere else. I also imagine a lot of Israelis are very fucking pissed off with people murdering them, and have probably lost interest in trying to make peace.

But the comparison between Palestinian hatred of Jews and Israeli sentiment toward Palestinians is utterly absurd. It’s not two sides of the same coin - it’s a false equivalence pushed by people desperate to flatten the moral landscape.

In Israel, there was entire networks of Jewish Israelis who risk their lives to help Palestinians:

– Lawyers offering free legal aid to Palestinians in court
– Volunteers who drive sick Palestinians to Israeli hospitals for treatment
– Hospitals that treat Palestinian children, including relatives of terrorists or terrorists themselves!
– Businesses that employ Palestinians, even during times of heightened tension

Now show me the equivalent in the Palestinian territories?

You can’t - because it doesn’t exist. Jews cannot even enter Palestinian cities without risking lynching. There are no networks of Palestinians helping Jews. There are no Palestinians who helped Israelis on October 7. Not a single one has helped the hostages.

Instead, what you get is:
– Schoolbooks glorifying terrorists and teaching that Jews are subhuman
– Public squares and summer camps named after murderers
– Songs and TV shows praising stabbing attacks
– A society where the more Jews you kill, the more you're celebrated as a hero

There are no laws in Israel that say you get paid money if you blow up a Palestinian school bus - in fact you would go to prison and be universally condemned if you did that.

For all the criticism of the IDF, do you see them dragging a body back and having Israelis celebrate in the street and spit on the corpses?

Do you see them murdering people and televising it as a parade where children cheer?

NO!

Not even the worst, most hateful, most racist, vile Israeli you can think of would actually ever condone those acts. So that’s not a “both sides” situation That’s one society maintaining a basic level of humanity, and another that has institutionalised hatred and murder as a virtue.

Now I add here that I am certain all children in Gaza are completely innocent, they are victims more than anybody. And certainly there will be large numbers of the Gazan population who don't participate in any of this and who don't want to murder anyone - but what we are talking about here is a culture of hate versus a culture of peace.

Israel has extremists on the fringes - the other has extremists running the curriculum, the airwaves, and the government. And the refusal to acknowledge this difference is either ignorance - or wilful complicity. More than anything because those who refuse to acknowledge this are really cursing the innocent children to 80 more years of this.

Please, all, ignore this Isreal propaganda.

Please.

In a couple of more years we will all see what Isreal is really like and what they, hand in hand with America, have been doing in the Middle East. It will all come to light. We will all know.

Twiglets1 · 04/08/2025 20:36

Gardeninging · 04/08/2025 20:27

Please, all, ignore this Isreal propaganda.

Please.

In a couple of more years we will all see what Isreal is really like and what they, hand in hand with America, have been doing in the Middle East. It will all come to light. We will all know.

Let’s assume for a moment we are all intelligent adults so can make our own minds up about which posts we wish to ignore.

quantumbutterfly · 04/08/2025 20:48

Twiglets1 · 04/08/2025 20:36

Let’s assume for a moment we are all intelligent adults so can make our own minds up about which posts we wish to ignore.

😶you know that old saying about assume....😁