Why aren't women and children being evacuated from gaza?

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I've just seen horrific photos of starving children on a news article. Why on earth are we not evacuating them? The population isn't huge, if split between many countries the cost of supporting them would be minimal compared to other expenditure.
I don't understand how it's been left to get to this point without anyone intervening, or really how everyone hasn't intervened.
Who cares about the land at this point, these are children who are likely to die by the look of them, who could live a happy healthy life somewhere else.

I think this gets lost a bit in understanding the Arab world. Egypt and Jordan alongside other nations in the middle East whilst good at rhetoric fundamentally don't see this as their problem. I think ultimately unless in 6 months somethings change fundamentally nations may have to put humanitarian necessity over territorial ties and start on negotiating how a transfer of peoples can take place. I am not going into the justice of this but looking at this a pragmatic means of preventing civil an death.

We have seen now that Palestinian life in Gaza, whether you feel it's right or wrong, is at a state of being one of deprivation and hoplesness locked between Hamas and the IDF. Even if there is a ceasefire there can be no guarantee of future conflict not occuring.

When Hamas started the war they had no plan to evacuate their civilians and they knew full well other states in the region wouldn't. And they don't care about them.

Very true

Hamas don’t care about their own civilians, Egypt and Jordan don’t want to deal with the mess of potentially thousands of long-term refugees needing housing, integration etc.

It's nothing to do with the practicalities of housing Palestinians; they've learnt from lessons from the past. You won't see protestors putting pressure on Jordan and Egypt, when Jews have been the punch bag, since time immemorial - most recently manifested in the west's crusade against Israel.

Israel literally won't let Palestinians leave Gaza.

In short, Arab nations have always resisted further refugees as they believe it would take responsibility off Israel. This is why countries other than Jordan refused to grant even ‘48 refugees citizenship. They want it to be clear that as far as they are concerned the only solution is an independent Palestine.

the unspoken part is that they don’t want them.

This is true, but I’m unconvinced they wouldn’t let them leave if there were somewhere to go. Remember the right wing extremists want to ethnically cleanse Gaza.

Egypt won’t let them out of Gaza and basically none of the other Arab countries want them.

Right wing extremists? I don't think I'd be using that term, unless you're going to be condemning all in that group. I don't mean a momentary acknowledgement of 7/10.

1. evacuation is normally a temporary thing until it's safe to return, for Gazans it would be permanent, because there's no way Israel would ever allow them back in. Saying goodbye to the only place you've known this home and probably seeing your friends and family forever (If they're still alive), is a big thing, and even in dire situations, people are often reluctant to give up their home permanently. It would be more akin to ethnic cleansing than evacuation.

2. that's if even Israel will let them leave. Given they're saying no to medical evacuations are critically injured kids, or saying that a small child with cancer has to travel without their parents and will never be allowed home, what makes you think they'll let people blame less extreme circumstances leave? And again, if they do they're never coming home.

3. countries are more willing to take in refugees if it's likely to be temporary thing, given Israel will never allow them home, it wouldn't. Many surrounding countries have their own issues of poverty, etc. wealthier countries like us in the US wouldn't even consider it, because we'd need to give them a permanent home, rather than just refuge.

4. I think many Gazans hope that one day the world will see their plight, maybe they'll be able to rebuild a life have freedom over their own land. Hope, even feint hope keeps people going sometimes, keeps people going sometimes.

Yes and it's the true civilians I feel for - not those Palestinians, who hide amongst the civilians population after they carried out a massacre. Even those, who weren't directly part of it help the terrorists. Then it's wondered why the IDF are 'trigger happy'.

I think this is true. I also think it’s politically expedient for the gazans to be there starving in order to turn aid back on so they can steal it / use the money for funding..

Yep, just one of the devious tactics going on.

This is the truth.

Good question - evacuated to where though? No Arab country wants them. Egypt has built a wall which can be seen from space to block Gazans from seeking refuge there. Israel, for very understandable reasons, cannot and will not evacuate them.
But what's preventing Egypt, which shares a border with Gaza from just opening the border and letting people through?

Well that's it in it's entirety
You may read some garbage deflecting the blame from Israel

How does that work when it is insisted Israel wants to ethnically cleanse Palestinians?

Make it make sense!

Had Egypt offered to open its borders, and Israel had refused its kind offer?

How come Egypt gets a free ride here. Israel is at war with Gaza, why isn't evacuation and aid being funnelled through Egypt's border? Why is no one protesting outside the Egyptian embassy saying let them in, send them food?

Allegedly sinwar's wife made it out via Egypt with a bag of cash, I guess it depends who you know.

https://nypost.com/2025/07/24/world-news/slain-hamas-chief-yahya-sinwars-smuggled-out-of-gaza-and-is-already-remarried-report/

Perhaps she could donate it to the Humanitarian crisis, which her husband helped create.

I think Egypt should at least open the border to let aid in, if they do not wan’t to evacuate the Palestinians in. I think there are many complexities for Egypt, financially, politically etc.
However, if Israel allowed aid in regularly the people of Gaza would have more food, they could stop bombing hospitals to smithereens, so medical care could continue

The world is watching whilst innocent children are starving to death and nothing can justify why this is allowed to happen.

Yeah, more chance of me winning the lottery. (and I'd be more inclined to donate to the hostage families forum tbh, they don't get much of a mention in the marches)

Huh? When hamas started this war? Pick up a history book please.