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Conflict in the Middle East

How is forced starvation allowed?

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Tinycatnoise · 23/07/2025 22:28

The top story in the BBC right now is the starvation of Gazans by Israel. The images are horrifying and not dissimilar to seeing those images of concentration camps in Nazi Germany. I cried seeing those and am crying now. I am sure someone will claim antisemitism because of this statement, but anyone looking at these images of starving children would agree.

How is this still going on? I feel like we are watching a genocide take place that the world has turning a blind eye to. The daily shooting by Israel of people trying to get aid too is just barbaric. If nothing is being done to stop this, what is the next horror that will unfold in the world that people will just accept?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce9xkx7vnmxo

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LipstickLessons · 24/07/2025 10:52

RosaMundi27 · 24/07/2025 10:46

The important questions here is why the UN is refusing to deliver aid into Gaza. Does anyone know why? I read somewhere that the UN is refusing because they would have to do it under the supervision of the GHF, which for some reason they don't agree with. Bear in mind that it's the UN who simply delivered all their previous aid to Hamas.

Why would you come onto a thread about starving children and spread misinformation? Are you trying to justify their starvation? Why?

Bear in mind that it's the UN who simply delivered all their previous aid to Hamas.
This simply isn't true. Even Israel don't claim that this is true.

Anonimummy · 24/07/2025 11:13

LipstickLessons · 24/07/2025 10:52

Why would you come onto a thread about starving children and spread misinformation? Are you trying to justify their starvation? Why?

Bear in mind that it's the UN who simply delivered all their previous aid to Hamas.
This simply isn't true. Even Israel don't claim that this is true.

How ironic of pro-Pals make accusations of misinformation!

From where is @RosaMundi27 misinformed about the UN refusing to deliver aid into Gaza?

LipstickLessons · 24/07/2025 11:14

Anonimummy · 24/07/2025 11:13

How ironic of pro-Pals make accusations of misinformation!

From where is @RosaMundi27 misinformed about the UN refusing to deliver aid into Gaza?

At least go to the effort of reading my post.

ummymummy · 24/07/2025 11:16

Comedycook · 24/07/2025 08:26

Various issues can be important at once. By this reasoning we may as well never discuss anything ever apart from children dying...

That's pretty much what would be happening if the starving children were Israeli rather than Palestinian

smallglassbottle · 24/07/2025 11:33

I don't know what to say anymore. After reading months and months of excuses and 'explanations' as to why israel are conducting this 'operation', I think it's clear that nothing will be done.

"By their fruit shall you know them". Spoken by the most famous Jewish person in history.

Insanityisnotastrategy · 24/07/2025 11:37

It's an appalling situation. I've been broadly supportive of Israel and I do think the situation on the ground is complex - different aid agencies, armed factions. It's obviously volatile and dangerous and that can't be helping with aid distribution. But there is clearly a systematic approach with things like baby formula which is just beyond cruel.

ArtTheClown · 24/07/2025 11:49

I do think that the BBC could have made its point better using a non-AI generated image.

LipstickLessons · 24/07/2025 11:56

ArtTheClown · 24/07/2025 11:49

I do think that the BBC could have made its point better using a non-AI generated image.

Which image are you claiming is AI generated? Surely not the one at the top of the article with the same starving toddler that the daily express had as their front page yesterday?

ArtTheClown · 24/07/2025 11:57

Which image are you claiming is AI generated? Surely not the one at the top of the article with the same starving toddler that the daily express had as their front page yesterday?

The Express image is different to the BBC one, and is clearly not AI generated.

LipstickLessons · 24/07/2025 11:59

ArtTheClown · 24/07/2025 11:57

Which image are you claiming is AI generated? Surely not the one at the top of the article with the same starving toddler that the daily express had as their front page yesterday?

The Express image is different to the BBC one, and is clearly not AI generated.

It's the same child. You can that the person holding the child is wearing the same clothes.

LipstickLessons · 24/07/2025 12:01

Another photo from the express.

How is forced starvation allowed?
Kakeandkake · 24/07/2025 12:23

ArtTheClown · 24/07/2025 11:57

Which image are you claiming is AI generated? Surely not the one at the top of the article with the same starving toddler that the daily express had as their front page yesterday?

The Express image is different to the BBC one, and is clearly not AI generated.

Which image is AI generated?

Madcatdudette · 24/07/2025 12:25

Flumpflimpo · 24/07/2025 07:35

"Hamas was the aggressor in this wave of the conflict"

That is absolutel bullshit @SharonEllis and you know it.

Hamas attacked Israel for two days, october 7th and October 8th in 2023.

In retaliation, Israel have been attacking and bombing Gaza for one year and a half..

If one side attacks for two days, and the otjrr side attacks for a year and a half, which side is more of the aggressor?

Israel is.

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How can you deny that the Hamas attack was the catalyst to Gaza citizens suffering.
Hamas were celebrating until Israel retaliated. Now they are just crying victim.
Pathetic. Hamas is pathetic.

Anonimummy · 24/07/2025 13:12

Honestly this is so fucked up!

The UN is complicit with Hamas in making excuses and telling lies so as to not distribute the thousands of tonnes of aid sitting inside Gaza, deliberately engineering a fake famine but genuine starvation of Palestinians just to use as propaganda against Israel and shut down the GHF so Hamas can continue using aid as revenue and control.

This shows the desperation for Hamas to survive as they’ve just refused another ceasefire deal because they only want a one-sided one, and they have no other excuses.

And all the intellectually challenged and /or brainwashed Jew hating people around the world are happily falling for it.

I really think this is a pivotal movement in human history - this is a battle of good v evil on a biblical scale.

Madcatdudette · 24/07/2025 13:18

Anonimummy · 24/07/2025 13:12

Honestly this is so fucked up!

The UN is complicit with Hamas in making excuses and telling lies so as to not distribute the thousands of tonnes of aid sitting inside Gaza, deliberately engineering a fake famine but genuine starvation of Palestinians just to use as propaganda against Israel and shut down the GHF so Hamas can continue using aid as revenue and control.

This shows the desperation for Hamas to survive as they’ve just refused another ceasefire deal because they only want a one-sided one, and they have no other excuses.

And all the intellectually challenged and /or brainwashed Jew hating people around the world are happily falling for it.

I really think this is a pivotal movement in human history - this is a battle of good v evil on a biblical scale.

You e hit the nail on the head there.

TheGrimSmile · 24/07/2025 13:28

I can never forgive Labour for being complicit in this. I have cancelled my membership. What the fuck are they thinking? I am disgusted. It's hard to think straight. Every time I sit down to eat something, I think about the starving Palestinians. Humans and children who are being deliberately starved. I cannot believe we have reached this point and nobody had taken action against Israel.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 24/07/2025 13:30

I don’t believe you @Anonimummy. Everyone sees what is happening. Aid agencies, the UN, 29 countries condemning Israel for its appalling actions. Food not being let in. People starved.

Yet here are the apologists, still saying “it’s not us, it’s them”. At this stage, you are wasting your breath trying to convince anyone otherwise. It is simply dishonest.

NotTerfNorCis · 24/07/2025 13:32

ArtTheClown · 24/07/2025 11:49

I do think that the BBC could have made its point better using a non-AI generated image.

It's not AI generated. That's a propaganda lie being put about on social media. Shows desperation.

Anonimummy · 24/07/2025 13:35

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 24/07/2025 13:30

I don’t believe you @Anonimummy. Everyone sees what is happening. Aid agencies, the UN, 29 countries condemning Israel for its appalling actions. Food not being let in. People starved.

Yet here are the apologists, still saying “it’s not us, it’s them”. At this stage, you are wasting your breath trying to convince anyone otherwise. It is simply dishonest.

Why is the UN not distributing the aid that is already INSIDE Gaza and refusing offers to help then?

Yes, those of us not blinded by hatred towards the Jewish people and have just a little bit of rationality, can see EXACTLY what is happening.

Kakeandkake · 24/07/2025 13:37

Anonimummy · 24/07/2025 13:35

Why is the UN not distributing the aid that is already INSIDE Gaza and refusing offers to help then?

Yes, those of us not blinded by hatred towards the Jewish people and have just a little bit of rationality, can see EXACTLY what is happening.

"The UN has also said repeatedly that it struggles to get the necessary Israeli authorisation to collect incoming supplies and transport them through military zones, with ongoing hostilities, badly damaged roads, looting, and severe fuel shortages exacerbating problems.
A major problem in recent weeks, the UN says, has been that it is struggling to get commitments from the Israeli military that Palestinians will not be killed while trying to collect aid from its convoys."

Kakeandkake · 24/07/2025 13:38

Anonimummy · 24/07/2025 13:35

Why is the UN not distributing the aid that is already INSIDE Gaza and refusing offers to help then?

Yes, those of us not blinded by hatred towards the Jewish people and have just a little bit of rationality, can see EXACTLY what is happening.

You think people are upset about starving Palestinians because they hate Jews? That is some extreme mental gymnastics.

What about the Jewish people who are upset with the Israeli government for starving Palestinians. What could there motivation be?

LipstickLessons · 24/07/2025 13:41

Kakeandkake · 24/07/2025 13:38

You think people are upset about starving Palestinians because they hate Jews? That is some extreme mental gymnastics.

What about the Jewish people who are upset with the Israeli government for starving Palestinians. What could there motivation be?

She also seems to think that starving Palestinians is a battle of good vs evil ie the starving Palestinians are evil so one can only presume in her mind deserve to starved. It's worrying that such extremist views exist within the UK.

Kakeandkake · 24/07/2025 13:42

LipstickLessons · 24/07/2025 13:41

She also seems to think that starving Palestinians is a battle of good vs evil ie the starving Palestinians are evil so one can only presume in her mind deserve to starved. It's worrying that such extremist views exist within the UK.

There's no reasoning with such extreme views.

BelleHathor · 24/07/2025 13:50

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 24/07/2025 13:30

I don’t believe you @Anonimummy. Everyone sees what is happening. Aid agencies, the UN, 29 countries condemning Israel for its appalling actions. Food not being let in. People starved.

Yet here are the apologists, still saying “it’s not us, it’s them”. At this stage, you are wasting your breath trying to convince anyone otherwise. It is simply dishonest.

It's almost laughable how "stupid" they think that the general public is to fall for their propaganda and lies again and again...... As if people haven't been watching and recording the GHF saga unfolding (including in threads on mumsnet).

This is what happened:

  1. The UN was presented with a proposal to "partnership" with the private company GHF (currently accused of killing and injuring 100s of Gazans seeking aid) . To accept this proposal would violate every core principle of the UN, so the UN rejects it.
  2. Use online propagandists to blame the UN for the famine that we have all witnessed be deliberately engineered as a matter of Israeli/US policy.
  3. Attempt to gaslight the world that the Israeli governments only concern is to prevent a famine but the "UN won't help".

Thankfully most of the world is wise to these tactics now and the pictures speak for themselves.

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