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Conflict in the Middle East

How is forced starvation allowed?

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Tinycatnoise · 23/07/2025 22:28

The top story in the BBC right now is the starvation of Gazans by Israel. The images are horrifying and not dissimilar to seeing those images of concentration camps in Nazi Germany. I cried seeing those and am crying now. I am sure someone will claim antisemitism because of this statement, but anyone looking at these images of starving children would agree.

How is this still going on? I feel like we are watching a genocide take place that the world has turning a blind eye to. The daily shooting by Israel of people trying to get aid too is just barbaric. If nothing is being done to stop this, what is the next horror that will unfold in the world that people will just accept?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce9xkx7vnmxo

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Cadenza12 · 24/07/2025 08:25

This is quite clearly criminal. How that's is being allowed to happen I don't know. I do think that there will be a price to pay for those involved.

Comedycook · 24/07/2025 08:26

Flumpflimpo · 24/07/2025 08:23

Maybe you should call out the israelis that are killing lots of children?

The lives of children is what is most important right now.

Various issues can be important at once. By this reasoning we may as well never discuss anything ever apart from children dying...

SharonEllis · 24/07/2025 08:26

Flumpflimpo · 24/07/2025 08:23

Maybe you should call out the israelis that are killing lots of children?

The lives of children is what is most important right now.

And any humane person can do that without talking about it in racist terms.

SharonEllis · 24/07/2025 08:27

Comedycook · 24/07/2025 08:26

Various issues can be important at once. By this reasoning we may as well never discuss anything ever apart from children dying...

But this person is only apparently intetested in children dying in one place and not others so perhaps children dying isnt actually the sole concern?

Flumpflimpo · 24/07/2025 08:27

DustyTangerine · 24/07/2025 08:24

That poster is massively antisemitic - not even hiding it either

The old chestnut "antisemetic" that always gets thrown out, when people cant think of any other way to defend Israel's brutality.

I dont dislike jewish people. Its nothing to do with religion. I like the nice kind jewish people that i know. I have lovely jewish friends who are amazing.

I dislike the killing of innocent children.

DustyTangerine · 24/07/2025 08:28

Flumpflimpo · 24/07/2025 08:24

They didn't attack first.

Israel had already taken away basic human rights of Palestinians before that.

they attacked innocent civilians on oct 7th breaking a ceasefire. You even said it yourself in the post I quoted, so yes - they did attack first

DustyTangerine · 24/07/2025 08:29

Flumpflimpo · 24/07/2025 08:27

The old chestnut "antisemetic" that always gets thrown out, when people cant think of any other way to defend Israel's brutality.

I dont dislike jewish people. Its nothing to do with religion. I like the nice kind jewish people that i know. I have lovely jewish friends who are amazing.

I dislike the killing of innocent children.

That’s like a racist saying they have black friends. Doesn’t mean anything when you speak about how Israelis are infected and compare them to nazis

Flumpflimpo · 24/07/2025 08:29

SharonEllis · 24/07/2025 08:27

But this person is only apparently intetested in children dying in one place and not others so perhaps children dying isnt actually the sole concern?

How do you know im only "interested" (strange term) in children dying in one place.

You don't know me or what ive done in my life. I have done a lot of volunteering in countries where children are suffering.

What have you done?

Comedycook · 24/07/2025 08:29

Flumpflimpo · 24/07/2025 08:27

The old chestnut "antisemetic" that always gets thrown out, when people cant think of any other way to defend Israel's brutality.

I dont dislike jewish people. Its nothing to do with religion. I like the nice kind jewish people that i know. I have lovely jewish friends who are amazing.

I dislike the killing of innocent children.

Yeah sure

Figcherry · 24/07/2025 08:30

Cadenza12 · 24/07/2025 08:25

This is quite clearly criminal. How that's is being allowed to happen I don't know. I do think that there will be a price to pay for those involved.

This is where the lines are blurry.
The aid is there waiting for distribution, both COGAT and the UN are holding this up.
The UN need to be able to deliver without fear of Israeli fire, Israel don’t want Hamas stealing the aid.

DustyTangerine · 24/07/2025 08:31

Flumpflimpo · 24/07/2025 08:29

How do you know im only "interested" (strange term) in children dying in one place.

You don't know me or what ive done in my life. I have done a lot of volunteering in countries where children are suffering.

What have you done?

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Course you have

Flumpflimpo · 24/07/2025 08:31

DustyTangerine · 24/07/2025 08:29

That’s like a racist saying they have black friends. Doesn’t mean anything when you speak about how Israelis are infected and compare them to nazis

As i said "antisemetic" always gets thrown out on these threads,

when certain posters can't think of a way to defend Israel's brutal actions of genocide.

Its so utterly predictable.

Flumpflimpo · 24/07/2025 08:31

DustyTangerine · 24/07/2025 08:31

Course you have

Lots of people have. My cousin is volunteering overseas right now.

Maybe you should get up of your arse and do something too.

DustyTangerine · 24/07/2025 08:32

Flumpflimpo · 24/07/2025 08:31

As i said "antisemetic" always gets thrown out on these threads,

when certain posters can't think of a way to defend Israel's brutal actions of genocide.

Its so utterly predictable.

If your posts are always met with the same response maybe you should address your bigotry - then people wouldn’t say it about you would they?

DustyTangerine · 24/07/2025 08:32

Flumpflimpo · 24/07/2025 08:31

Lots of people have. My cousin is volunteering overseas right now.

Maybe you should get up of your arse and do something too.

Where is your cousin volunteering?

Flumpflimpo · 24/07/2025 08:34

DustyTangerine · 24/07/2025 08:32

If your posts are always met with the same response maybe you should address your bigotry - then people wouldn’t say it about you would they?

I wasnt talking about my posts @DustyTangerine .

If you look at any threads about the Israel/ Gaza conflict on mumsnet, as soon as anyone (not just me) criticises Israel, they are called antisemetic.

Its so predictable on every thread, that people just ignore it.

Flumpflimpo · 24/07/2025 08:34

DustyTangerine · 24/07/2025 08:32

Where is your cousin volunteering?

Where have you volunteered?

SharonEllis · 24/07/2025 08:35

Flumpflimpo · 24/07/2025 08:31

As i said "antisemetic" always gets thrown out on these threads,

when certain posters can't think of a way to defend Israel's brutal actions of genocide.

Its so utterly predictable.

Usually only when someone is antisemitic. Your posts include things that are clearly antisemitic.

Comedycook · 24/07/2025 08:37

Flumpflimpo · 24/07/2025 08:34

I wasnt talking about my posts @DustyTangerine .

If you look at any threads about the Israel/ Gaza conflict on mumsnet, as soon as anyone (not just me) criticises Israel, they are called antisemetic.

Its so predictable on every thread, that people just ignore it.

No they're not

Flumpflimpo · 24/07/2025 08:37

SharonEllis · 24/07/2025 08:35

Usually only when someone is antisemitic. Your posts include things that are clearly antisemitic.

Youve already said that three times @SharonEllis .

Is there a point in saying it over and over. ?

Flumpflimpo · 24/07/2025 08:37

Comedycook · 24/07/2025 08:37

No they're not

They certainly are.

Dangermoo · 24/07/2025 08:38

DustyTangerine · 24/07/2025 08:24

That poster is massively antisemitic - not even hiding it either

Shani Louk's murder - "when I saw it on the news". Shani was a young woman, who was taken from the Nova festival, murdered, had her legs folded under her semi naked body and paraded around in a truck. She was spat on and the Gazan. crowd celebrated. As she was Israeli, a passing comment about her death will suffice. Then these posters wonder why they are called antisemitic.

DustyTangerine · 24/07/2025 08:38

Flumpflimpo · 24/07/2025 08:34

Where have you volunteered?

Ah so the cousin doesn’t exist. I don’t know why you thought it would be relevant in the first place though to be fair

soddingspiderseason · 24/07/2025 08:38

Flumpflimpo · 24/07/2025 07:35

"Hamas was the aggressor in this wave of the conflict"

That is absolutel bullshit @SharonEllis and you know it.

Hamas attacked Israel for two days, october 7th and October 8th in 2023.

In retaliation, Israel have been attacking and bombing Gaza for one year and a half..

If one side attacks for two days, and the otjrr side attacks for a year and a half, which side is more of the aggressor?

Israel is.

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Hamas murdered and tortured 1000s of innocent civilians and took 300 hostages. Ignoring that as the trigger for this war helps no-one. Hamas knew Israel would retaliate and used Gazan civilians as human shields. What Netanyahu is now doing is completely unforgivable, and the Israeli army must stop immediately. Both Israel citizens and Gazan citizens need snd deserve peace.

octopustheslapper · 24/07/2025 08:38

Article in paper today about Hamas widow leaving and taking substantial amounts of cash with her. This is a huge part of the problem though- Hamas have no problem with siphoning off funds and letting their own people starve. They see Western beliefs as weak and will exploit them anyway to meet their ends.

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