27 children have been murdered by the IOF every day for 650 days in Gaza (UNICEF)

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Facts:

• At least 15,000 children have been killed since the war began in October 2023.
• Many have died in airstrikes, building collapses, or stampedes at aid sites.
• Thousands more have been injured, often with life-altering wounds, burns, or amputations.
• Gaza is facing famine-like conditions.
• Children are eating grass, leaves, or going days without food.
• Severe malnutrition is widespread, especially in northern Gaza. Babies and toddlers are dying of hunger-related causes.
• Nearly all children in Gaza are now considered to have signs of acute psychological trauma:
• Nightmares
• Bedwetting
• Non-responsiveness (shutdown/dissociation)
• Panic at loud sounds
• Many have lost one or both parents, siblings, or entire families.
• Most hospitals have been bombed or shut down.
• Children can’t access basic care, vaccines, or treatment for chronic illnesses.
• Wounded kids are operated on without anesthesia in some cases.
• Over 1 million children have been displaced—many multiple times.
• Families sleep in tents, rubble, or outdoors with no clean water or toilets.
• Nearly all schools have been shut down, destroyed, or turned into shelters.
• Many teachers and schoolchildren have been killed.
• A whole generation risks growing up with no access to education or safety.
• Children are drinking dirty water, leading to diarrheal diseases and infections.
• Outbreaks of hepatitis, lice, and scabies are widespread.
• Even in declared “safe zones” or aid areas, children have been shot, suffocated in stampedes, or killed by nearby strikes.
• Some have died while queuing for water or food.

“There is no safe place left for children in Gaza. They are being killed, starved, maimed, and psychologically shattered. This is not a humanitarian crisis—this is a crisis of humanity.”
— Save the Children, July 2025

Your incorrect. There are no journalists allowed to move in or out of Gaza.
The only journalists in Gaza are Palestinian journalists who you keep accusing of being Biased or Hamas supporters.

Actually there are Israeli government friendly "journalists" that are allowed to visit Gaza and film reports whilst being monitored by the IDF.

Mostly right wing Republican sorts. Remember Douglas Murray was taken for a tour of where Sinwar was killed in Gaza and took this photo.

Haaretz even reported that a group Israel365 is funding a trip to Israel for MAGA influencers.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-07-20/ty-article/.premium/israel-foreign-ministry-to-fund-visit-by-maga-social-media-influencers/00000198-26ec-d55c-a1be-7eee75e40000

"The Israeli Foreign Ministry will fund a tour of Israel for U.S. social media influencers affiliated with the Make America Great Again and America First brands of conservatism, which represent a significant portion of President Donald Trump's voter base.
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The initiative aims to boost Israel's image among young American conservatives by encouraging these influencers to disseminate messaging that aligns with the Israeli government's policy.
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The ministry will channel tens of thousands of dollars for the trip through the nonprofit organization Israel365, which was awarded the contract without a tender due to its "unique position to convey a pro-Israel stance that aligns entirely with the MAGA and America First agenda."
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Foreign Ministry officials say the tour delivers significant media, advocacy, and diplomatic benefits – and represents a strategic shift, as traditional outreach is no longer sufficient to shape public opinion. They aim to leverage the massive followings of young social media influencers to bolster Israel's standing in the U.S.
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Founded in 2012 by Rabbi Naphtali "Tuly" Weisz, Israel365 promotes support for Israel based on political, spiritual and biblical principles. Its affiliated website states that the group "stands unapologetically for the Jewish people's God-given right to the entire Land of Israel," rejects a two‑state solution as a "delusion," and describes its mission as defending "Western civilization against threats from both Progressive Left extremism and global jihad."

I think what @Anonimummy is referencing is the occasional journalist who is taken on a route prepared by the IDF, and being shown only what the IDF want them to see. They then have all videos and photos inspected by the IDF.

Like the recent far right journalist why was taken around by an IDF PR guy.

It's not journalism. It's propaganda.

Ok I’ll be even more specific there are no foreign journalists who are free to enter, leave, and move freely around Gaza.

Who do you blame for all the Palestinian murder a before Hamas existed , or the Palestinians murders and land theft in the West Bank where there is no Hamas or do you generally use Hamas as an excuse for everything !

No Hamas in the West Bank? They have been there since its creation, along with quite a few other terrorist groups.

One of the Hamas founders is from Ramallah.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hassan_Yousef_(Hamas_leader)

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaher_Jabarin

https://www.longwarjournal.org/westbankterrorgroups

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2025/05/08/lowest-number-of-monthly-attacks-in-5-years-recorded-in-west-bank/

Who do you blame for all the Palestinian terrorism before Hamas existed?

The PLO was created before Israel ‘illegally occupied’ the West Bank and Gaza. While they were illegally occupied by Jordan and Egypt!

Many reputable doctors and surgeons from the uk who have bravely risked their life to work in Gaza have reported seeing Israeli snipers shooting children at point blank and seeing children with injuries consistent with being targeted such as Dr Victoria rose and Dr nizam mamode amongst others. Are you implying that they’re lying ????
im much more inclined to believe the words of these brave brave doctors than the Israeli propaganda machine that have been caught sprouting lies time and time again .

"The IDF ARE the most moral army in the world"

How can you even have a conversation with someone who seriously makes these statements. They are either in total denial, brainwashed or morally bankrupt?

Yes I do! Yesterday it was my late train, wonder what I can blame those nice boys from Hamas for today? In the meantime I hope you've read about all the lovely terrorists, including Hamas in the West Bank that anonimummy helpfully posted for you. It is interesting what strong views people have from such a place of ignorance.

If forced starvation was Israel's intention, why would they now be agreeing to allow air drops of food supplies by other countries such as the UK?

I'm pretty sure that if one of your sons was in the IDF, you'd be making more effort to understand the fairly obvious risks involved on the ground where there is no indication of which "civilians" are just waiting to kill them.

Isn't it obvious? International pressure and threats of sanctions.

@Beachtastic i think you should read this

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd787er1qz4o

This is what Israel makes the Palestinians risk their lives over.

An international aid development professor from the London School of Economics analysed the list provided by the GHF to BBC Verify and said that while it could deliver sufficient calories needed to survive, it had "serious weaknesses".
"In essence, this basket provides a full stomach but an empty diet," Prof Stuart Gordon said. "The biggest flaw is what's missing… This (is) very much a 'first aid' food basket, designed to stop the haemorrhaging effect that is acute hunger."
"A diet like this over weeks would lead to 'hidden hunger', increasing the risk of diseases like anaemia and scurvy" he said.

What do you mean they're in there now? The IDF do not allow foreign reporters into the territory, this is so they can murder and massacre with impunity. Honestly - your attitude is shocking - all you are doing is repeating the rhetoric of an invading nation committing genocide under the name of self defence. The irony is that the same attitudes in the past lead to the denial of the holocaust until the allied troops liberated the camps and unveiled the horrors.

The BBC reported from a 'viewing' spot near the border where there were telescopes and vending machines set up, like some sort of twee seaside resort. All this to allow the wealthy and powerful Israelis to view the 'sport' of the IDF slaughter. It is utterly disgusting, to deny this is to deny your own humanity and compassion.

If Israel are truly innocent, let the world's media in, let the food in, stop firing on civilians, stop the systematic clearance of all property and creating a man made disaster. If any other nation did this, there would be troops sent in to defend the Palestinians, Israel and America are committing genocide whilst the world watches on.

If my son was in the IDF - I would tell him to leave. Firing on unarmed civilians is a war crime.

This is what Israel forcibly tried to replace the 400 UN kitchens with. A handful of aid centres where Palestinians risk life and are dehumanised whilst trying to survive. To be given food packs that mostly need water to cook which they don't all have access too and a diet leading to 'hidden hunger'.

Basically, a farce to cover up their collective punishment.

Well, obvious to you, maybe, if you completely deny the presence of any danger to the IDF when distributing food in a hostile region where combatants and civilians are indistinguishable.

Maybe the UK can do better with its choice of food, if we get involved in air drops. Given the sporadic nature of distribution and the climate, I'd imagine deciding what's appropriate will be based on the fact that it must all be non-perishable items with a high nutritional value that can sustain life, not Meals on Wheels with M&S ready meals.

The IDF are not distributing food. Where do you get your information from?

And secondly, the UN were running many hot food kitchens where the Palestinians were given adequate food to meet their needs which the Israeli government forcibly replaced with the GHF.

Please read the previous posts, we're discussing Israel having agreed to let foreign countries air-drop food supplies.

I have read them.

You are the one who wrongly mentioned the IDF distributing food aid.

You also think the Israeli government are not starving Palestinians after allowing in token air drops after intense international pressure.

These air drops are not going to go very far in alleviating the malnutrition and starvation that is spreading fast.

You are correct, I got that wrong 🤦🏻‍♀️

The air drops have also in the past killed Palestinians because they can unfortunately malfunction ie parachute not opening.

Aid being air dropped into Gaza is inefficient and yes - can cause occasional accidents. However, it is significantly better than doing nothing which is why the UK along with other countries has committed to being involved & helping to provide supplies for the aid drops.

People like to be negative about anything to do with Gaza and immediately reach for worst case scenarios but these aid drops will help a lot more citizens than they will harm. I think it’s better to be pragmatic and accept Israel will not return to the old system of aid distribution until a ceasefire is agreed. All the talking will not change the views of the Israel government that the old method was an income stream for Hamas so they won’t return to that method as long as this war is raging.

A lot of people may disagree with them but that’s the reality of their stance. So until a ceasefire is agreed & In the meantime, it’s better to support aid drops as a method of getting humanitarian aid into Gaza, despite its limitations.

This is a debate forum, people like us on here who are essentially nobodies - myself included are not going to make a difference through our discussions. However, we can air our views.

When the GHF system was announced then posters were berated for being 'negative' or pessimistic about it. Even though today they have been proved right.

It is the same with the air drops - yes, there are some positives and still significantly better than the GHF system, but it's not enough and comes with risks. We are allowed to state that.

Of course you are allowed to state that.

Equally I’m allowed to give my opinion that being negative about every attempt to find a way of getting aid into Gaza isn’t going to help hungry Gazans.

The Israel government just isn’t going to return to the old method so personally I see aid drops as a good thing despite knowing they have limitations and also that a small number of Palestinians have been killed by a parachute malfunctioning & falling on them in the past or being drowned while swimming into the sea to collect aid fallen there. There is no perfect solution but something is better than nothing.