27 children have been murdered by the IOF every day for 650 days in Gaza (UNICEF)

[Wedonttalkaboutboris]

Facts:

• At least 15,000 children have been killed since the war began in October 2023.
• Many have died in airstrikes, building collapses, or stampedes at aid sites.
• Thousands more have been injured, often with life-altering wounds, burns, or amputations.
• Gaza is facing famine-like conditions.
• Children are eating grass, leaves, or going days without food.
• Severe malnutrition is widespread, especially in northern Gaza. Babies and toddlers are dying of hunger-related causes.
• Nearly all children in Gaza are now considered to have signs of acute psychological trauma:
• Nightmares
• Bedwetting
• Non-responsiveness (shutdown/dissociation)
• Panic at loud sounds
• Many have lost one or both parents, siblings, or entire families.
• Most hospitals have been bombed or shut down.
• Children can’t access basic care, vaccines, or treatment for chronic illnesses.
• Wounded kids are operated on without anesthesia in some cases.
• Over 1 million children have been displaced—many multiple times.
• Families sleep in tents, rubble, or outdoors with no clean water or toilets.
• Nearly all schools have been shut down, destroyed, or turned into shelters.
• Many teachers and schoolchildren have been killed.
• A whole generation risks growing up with no access to education or safety.
• Children are drinking dirty water, leading to diarrheal diseases and infections.
• Outbreaks of hepatitis, lice, and scabies are widespread.
• Even in declared “safe zones” or aid areas, children have been shot, suffocated in stampedes, or killed by nearby strikes.
• Some have died while queuing for water or food.

“There is no safe place left for children in Gaza. They are being killed, starved, maimed, and psychologically shattered. This is not a humanitarian crisis—this is a crisis of humanity.”
— Save the Children, July 2025

Yes the GHF have 'fed' some people. They've given a small amount of often useless food, such as dry rice where there no water and ability to cook. Collecting said miserly amounts comes with a significant chance of being shot. That thousands are risking death for this shows the desperation of many Gazans.

Yet you’ve taken the time to comment on the thread about the cruise ship.

Yeah, on the appropriate thread. Maybe try it sometime instead of bothering me quoting me and putting words in my mouth that I didn't say 👍

But the first comment was made about it on this thread and not by me. And you are distracting from the important point of this thread by arguing details with me. I said “the thread has moved on” to signify that it was time we did too but you seem to prefer arguing with me to debating the war.

Exactly this.

Can you imagine how desperate they are to risk life just for some meagre aid. Aid that needs water to cook which is scarce in Gaza right now.

Cynical?!

This isn’t cynical- it’s about facing what’s actually happening.

Over 90% of Gaza’s population (around 2 million people) are now in IPC Phase 3 or worse, meaning crisis-level hunger or famine. Nearly half are already in IPC Phase 5, the most extreme category: catastrophe/famine. This is based on UN-verified IPC data, not speculation.

At least 111 people have already died of starvation, including 21 children under five. Since the full aid blockade in March 2025, there’s been an explosion in severe acute malnutrition- over 65,000 children now affected, and at least 57 children confirmed to have died from hunger alone.

So when someone says the GHF is “working” because it creates chaos, inspires fear, and concentrates civilians into smaller areas, it’s not a “cynical take.” It’s describing a deliberate policy of collective punishment, which is a war crime.

Yes, the old aid system had serious problems. But it fed people. What’s happening now is systematic deprivation of food and water, used as leverage in a military strategy. That’s not just a broken system. That’s weaponised starvation.

You came into my thread and now you’re more offended about being quoted than the fact that millions are starving?

You clearly have no comeback to the reality that 90% of Gaza is facing starvation- half of them children. So you’ve resorted to tone-policing instead.

“My thread” so laughable 😂

And for the record, this is why I no longer engage with people who enjoy making shit up about others.

But this could kind of look like you were point scoring @Twiglets1.

You clearly have no comeback
Hit the nail on the head.

It is a crisis situation and action needs to be taken now to save lives. The stats you detailed are sobering

@Wedonttalkaboutboris as if it wasn't bad enough that the aid not getting due to the blockade by the government in we see on Tuesday night a group of Israeli citizens held up the few aid trucks that were going in.

I do have no “comeback” or solution to the crisis in Gaza it’s true (unfortunately).

Not aware that any other Mumsnetter have a solution that both sides would accept either.

I do have no “comeback” or solution to the crisis in Gaza
That's not what the poster meant which you well know

What? They said I have “no comeback to the reality that 90% of Gaza is facing starvation” and no, I don’t have any comeback to the crisis in Gaza.

Also I asked them yesterday to stop quoting me because they misquoted me several times, so it’s not like I suddenly made up the request in response to their post above.

You said: “Still, I won’t deny that the old system worked better at feeding the people of Gaza even if a lot of it was siphoned off by Hamas.”
And “That’s a cynical view”, in response to someone saying the GHF was designed as a military tactic, not a humanitarian one.

So let’s be honest: you did engage. You did defend the GHF. You did suggest that people criticising it were just being “cynical.”

Now that you’ve been directly asked about 90% of Gaza facing starvation, you suddenly pivot to “don’t quote me” and “I have no comeback or solution.” You can’t have it both ways. If you’re going to minimise a man-made famine, expect people to push back. Stop posting things you can’t defend, and you won’t need to ask people not to quote you.

If you’re more upset about being quoted than you are about an entire population being systematically starved, then yes- I’m going to call you out on that. Because silence, deflection, and selective outrage are exactly what allows atrocities like this to keep happening.

You said: “Still, I won’t deny that the old system worked better at feeding the people of Gaza even if a lot of it was siphoned off by Hamas.”
And “That’s a cynical view”, in response to someone saying the GHF was designed as a military tactic, not a humanitarian one.

So let’s be honest: you did engage. You did defend the GHF. You did suggest that people criticising it were just being “cynical.”

Now that you’ve been directly asked about 90% of Gaza facing starvation, you suddenly pivot to “don’t quote me” and “I have no comeback or solution.” You can’t have it both ways. If you’re going to minimise a man-made famine, expect people to push back. Stop posting things you can’t defend, and you won’t need to ask people not to quote you.

If you’re more upset about being quoted than you are about an entire population being systematically starved, then yes- I’m going to call you out on that. Because silence, deflection, and selective outrage are exactly what allows atrocities like this to keep happening.

Sorry to bore people by repeating this same point but I did ask Boris not to quote me again yesterday which is why I will ignore them despite them being so desperate to get my attention for some reason.

@Twiglets1 You’re not being “quoted for attention.” You’re being quoted because you made a public comment defending a military tactic that has directly contributed to mass starvation- and now you’re trying to retreat behind faux boredom and boundary-setting the moment it’s challenged.

You engaged in a discussion about Gaza. You defended the GHF. You dismissed legitimate criticism as “cynical.” And now, when presented with facts- like 90% of the population facing starvation- you claim moral high ground by… ignoring it?

This isn’t about you.
It’s about 2 million people (half of them children) being starved, bombed, and dehumanised. If you don’t want to be challenged on what you say, don’t post it publicly. But don’t pretend that disengaging from a crisis is somehow an act of integrity. It’s not.

Sorry to bore people by repeating this same point but I did ask Boris not to quote me again yesterday which is why I will ignore them despite them being so desperate to get my attention for some reason.

The people of Gaza are facing an unprecedented humanitarian catastrophe, with nearly 20,000 children killed- equivalent to a classroom lost every single day for two years- and countless more suffering from severe malnutrition and lack of basic medical care.

Aid and food have been blocked from entering Gaza since March (including baby formula and medical aid), despite being just miles away, intensifying the crisis to levels not seen since World War II. Newborn babies have starved to death.

Since the end of May 2025, over 1,000 Palestinians have been killed while attempting to access humanitarian aid in Gaza. The majority of these deaths occurred at distribution sites operated by the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF), a U.S.- and Israeli-backed organization. The United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights reported that as of July 21, 2025, 766 Palestinians were killed near GHF sites, while 288 were killed near other aid convoys . These figures highlight the extreme risks civilians face in their desperate efforts to obtain food and medical supplies amid the ongoing siege and blockade.

This is not simply a war; it is a systematic genocide that targets civilians, especially the most vulnerable, and the international community’s failure to act decisively condemns Gaza’s population to ongoing suffering and death.

I don’t want to post distressing images, but I urge you to seek out reliable sources and witness the reality of the suffering for yourself.
Understanding the human impact is crucial to truly grasping the urgency of this crisis.

The silence and inaction in the face of this devastation represent a profound moral crisis that demands urgent attention and concrete action to end the blockade and save lives.

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Gaza_Strip_aid_distribution_killings
• https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/23/israel-gaza-starvation-humanitarian-groups-letter
• https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-gaza-war-palestinians-07-22-2025-8eb90d73c1b7499d3dbc8b8d95da65cc
• https://www.mississippifreepress.org/israeli-forces-have-killed-over-1000-hungry-palestinians-seeking-aid-since-may-un-says
• https://www.cbsnews.com/news/palestinians-killed-trying-to-reach-aid-gaza-israel-officials-say

I’m sharing this important petition calling on the UK government to urgently ensure humanitarian aid- including food, fuel, and medical supplies- reaches the people of Gaza.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700682?fbclid=PAQ0xDSwLuGwxleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABpyYJdYLefc8ccrcNgIaeZPno5CUTdUIMYKhoEqkRKSQ2K_rnEBvVK7qru5IO_aem_T_7Wc1NZlNyTUCRGBbJz_Q

The Israeli Government are war criminals, calling this out is to challenge the leaders of the nation, not the whole nation, nor a majority religion within it. To call this challenge to the government this anti-semitic is an insult to the faith and their own suffering. The fact that our government mildly rebukes the Israeli government and then keeps selling them weapons, when we know what they do with them is deeply wrong too.

But nothing can get past the idf. This is the horror of it. They will fire on anybody trying to reach Gaza. Nobody can force aid in. It can't even be airdropped. Israel is not our ally. This is why the truth is so stark.

So an evil sub human terrorist group and their supporters say.