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27 children have been murdered by the IOF every day for 650 days in Gaza (UNICEF)

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Wedonttalkaboutboris · 19/07/2025 15:12

Facts:

  • At least 15,000 children have been killed since the war began in October 2023.
  • Many have died in airstrikes, building collapses, or stampedes at aid sites.
  • Thousands more have been injured, often with life-altering wounds, burns, or amputations.
  • Gaza is facing famine-like conditions.
  • Children are eating grass, leaves, or going days without food.
  • Severe malnutrition is widespread, especially in northern Gaza. Babies and toddlers are dying of hunger-related causes.
  • Nearly all children in Gaza are now considered to have signs of acute psychological trauma:
  • Nightmares
  • Bedwetting
  • Non-responsiveness (shutdown/dissociation)
  • Panic at loud sounds
  • Many have lost one or both parents, siblings, or entire families.
  • Most hospitals have been bombed or shut down.
  • Children can’t access basic care, vaccines, or treatment for chronic illnesses.
  • Wounded kids are operated on without anesthesia in some cases.
  • Over 1 million children have been displaced—many multiple times.
  • Families sleep in tents, rubble, or outdoors with no clean water or toilets.
  • Nearly all schools have been shut down, destroyed, or turned into shelters.
  • Many teachers and schoolchildren have been killed.
  • A whole generation risks growing up with no access to education or safety.
  • Children are drinking dirty water, leading to diarrheal diseases and infections.
  • Outbreaks of hepatitis, lice, and scabies are widespread.
  • Even in declared “safe zones” or aid areas, children have been shot, suffocated in stampedes, or killed by nearby strikes.
  • Some have died while queuing for water or food.

“There is no safe place left for children in Gaza. They are being killed, starved, maimed, and psychologically shattered. This is not a humanitarian crisis—this is a crisis of humanity.”
— Save the Children, July 2025

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LipstickLessons · 23/07/2025 10:09

I just typed out a post but it would probably be deleted given how I'm feeling right now. I've just seen this image in the guardian, I can't describe how I feel knowing that this has been done on purpose and nothing has been done to stop it. I can't believe this is how low humanity has fallen. This child has been starved on purpose. What the actual fuck.

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27 children have been murdered by the IOF every day for 650 days in Gaza (UNICEF)
Everexpanding · 23/07/2025 10:09

Beachtastic · 23/07/2025 08:22

Sorry I posted on here banging my little drum without listening to what you were saying. I was tired and should have been in bed! My motivation for participating in these forums is anxiety about what’s happening in the UK, but this is not the thread for expressing that.

So, back on topic, regarding the situation in Gaza, yes, it is obviously beyond horrific, but I honestly don’t know what to make of how it is unfolding on the ground.

If you read Middle East Eye (posted 2 days 11 hours ago), it says that UNRWA has “accused Israel of starving civilians, including a million children in Gaza, by blocking vital food and medicine deliveries into the besieged enclave. UNRWA issued the warning on Sunday, calling on Israel to lift its blockade and allow humanitarian aid to flow freely. At militarised distribution sites run by the US- and Israel-backed GHF civilians trying to access the food are being shot and killed by the Israeli army.”

If you read MSN (posted 14 hours ago), it says “At least 101 people are known to have died of malnutrition during the conflict, including 80 children, most of them in recent weeks, according to officials. United Nations secretary-general Antonio Guterres has said malnourishment is soaring and starvation is knocking on every door in Gaza, describing the situation as a “horror show.” […] Some food stocks in the Palestinian territory have run out since Israel cut off all supplies in March and then lifted the blockade in May with new measures it said were needed to prevent aid from being diverted to militant groups. Israel has blamed the UN for failing to protect aid it says is stolen by Hamas and other groups. The fighters deny stealing it.”

Given the complications here (not least Hamas being indistinguishable from civilians, their habit of controlling supplies of any kind, etc), and doubts about the neutrality of the UN and UNRWA, literally anything could be happening for all I know.

It’s a really bizarre situation that Israel is held responsible for feeding Gaza, have there been other conflicts where this has happened? Israel knows the eyes of the world are watching, so surely it would be an “own goal” for them to blatantly block supplies?

Not bizarre at all for aid to be provided to civilians during war, it is also an obligation on an occupying state under international law to provide necessary food and water to civilians

www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/23/israel-gaza-starvation-humanitarian-groups-letter

businessflop25 · 23/07/2025 10:20

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 23/07/2025 09:52

Well pretty unpleasant on both sides to be fair. Israeli citizens should not be held accountable for their governments actions just like Palestinians shouldn't be.

WTAF!!! You think that denying a cruise ship to dock is in anyway comparable to what’s happening in Gaza?!!!

Twiglets1 · 23/07/2025 10:25

Everexpanding · 23/07/2025 10:09

Not bizarre at all for aid to be provided to civilians during war, it is also an obligation on an occupying state under international law to provide necessary food and water to civilians

www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/23/israel-gaza-starvation-humanitarian-groups-letter

It says in that article that Hamas denies stealing humanitarian aid.

But they also denied raping women during 7/10 & there is a lot of evidence that they did (I believe it is accepted as a fact now that they did commit sexual violence on 7/10).

They are not reliable as known to tell lies and I believe this is a lie or why would Israel have gone to all the effort & money to try to find a new method of aid distribution? I accept the new method hadn’t worked by the way and that some IDF soldiers have also lied about things. But still … why are we still acting as though anything Hamas says has validity?

LipstickLessons · 23/07/2025 10:34

why would Israel have gone to all the effort & money to try to find a new method of aid distribution

It's baffling isn't it. Why would you go to all of that effort to lure people into 10% of Southern Gaza and then not even feed them.

ArtfulUser · 23/07/2025 10:37

Anonimummy · 19/07/2025 16:21

It is horrendous.

It is absolutely a crime against humanity that civilians weren’t given the opportunity to be evacuated to places of safe refuge when the war started, like they are in every other conflict.

Seems the global community, and even supporters of the Palestinians, decided that it was in their interests for Hamas to use them as pawns and human sacrifices to achieve their military goals against Israel because there hasn’t been much in the way of calls and pressure to allow civilians to leave Gaza from what I have seen.

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It is absolutely a crime against humanity that civilians weren’t given the opportunity to be evacuated to places of safe refuge when the war started, like they are in every other conflict.

One solution would have been for Egypt to open their border and allow them refuge there. Egypt wont allow it and their border is stronger than Israels.

Though Egypt escapes criticism for some reason.

quantumbutterfly · 23/07/2025 10:45

ArtfulUser · 23/07/2025 10:37

It is absolutely a crime against humanity that civilians weren’t given the opportunity to be evacuated to places of safe refuge when the war started, like they are in every other conflict.

One solution would have been for Egypt to open their border and allow them refuge there. Egypt wont allow it and their border is stronger than Israels.

Though Egypt escapes criticism for some reason.

Baffling isn't it....

Twiglets1 · 23/07/2025 10:47

LipstickLessons · 23/07/2025 10:34

why would Israel have gone to all the effort & money to try to find a new method of aid distribution

It's baffling isn't it. Why would you go to all of that effort to lure people into 10% of Southern Gaza and then not even feed them.

But they are feeding them, they have distributed millions of meals and it has cost millions of dollars to set up and run the GHF.

It clearly isn't enough food to meet needs and the system isn't working safely, but they are providing food. And there are other organisations operating too in Gaza also trying to feed people like the World Food Programme.

Honestly, the situation is bad enough - we all see how bad it is for Gazans. You don't have to exaggerate by pretending that the GHF don't feed anyone.

Crystalight · 23/07/2025 10:49

Twiglets1 · 23/07/2025 10:25

It says in that article that Hamas denies stealing humanitarian aid.

But they also denied raping women during 7/10 & there is a lot of evidence that they did (I believe it is accepted as a fact now that they did commit sexual violence on 7/10).

They are not reliable as known to tell lies and I believe this is a lie or why would Israel have gone to all the effort & money to try to find a new method of aid distribution? I accept the new method hadn’t worked by the way and that some IDF soldiers have also lied about things. But still … why are we still acting as though anything Hamas says has validity?

@Twiglets1 I don’t think that is the point of the thread though is it. Hamas said this, the IDF said that. The fact of the matter is that currently the Israeli government are blocking aid entering into Gaza, and have done so since March. As a result, people who live there are now showing worrying levels of malnutrition, or literally starving to death. Aid workers and doctors themselves are unable to obtain food and therefore are no longer able to do the work that they want to, so bravely, to continue. This is horrifying people across the world, and it needs to stop now.

ArtfulUser · 23/07/2025 10:54

Twiglets1 · 23/07/2025 10:47

But they are feeding them, they have distributed millions of meals and it has cost millions of dollars to set up and run the GHF.

It clearly isn't enough food to meet needs and the system isn't working safely, but they are providing food. And there are other organisations operating too in Gaza also trying to feed people like the World Food Programme.

Honestly, the situation is bad enough - we all see how bad it is for Gazans. You don't have to exaggerate by pretending that the GHF don't feed anyone.

Sadly it also isn't unique.

Since the onset of the Sudanese civil war there has been a severe famine.

According to WFP, approximately half of Sudan’s population – 25 million people – is facing extreme levels of hunger, including about five million children and mothers suffering acute malnutrition.

But no one gives a shit. It's never in the paper. One wonders why there isn't the same level of care on a global scale for the civilian victims of war.

I tried to post a link to the recent UN article on the subject but it didnt post for some reason.

That bold quote was from.the UN website. A recent article.

Twiglets1 · 23/07/2025 10:57

@Crystalight the point is Hamas are liars. If @Everexpanding wants to post a link that talks about what Hamas says on the subject being discussed, it is worth reminding people they are not reliable witnesses.

I agree with you that Israel should allow more humanitarian aid into Gaza even, at this stage (in my opinion) if that helps Hamas financially because the situation is dire.

LipstickLessons · 23/07/2025 10:59

Twiglets1 · 23/07/2025 10:47

But they are feeding them, they have distributed millions of meals and it has cost millions of dollars to set up and run the GHF.

It clearly isn't enough food to meet needs and the system isn't working safely, but they are providing food. And there are other organisations operating too in Gaza also trying to feed people like the World Food Programme.

Honestly, the situation is bad enough - we all see how bad it is for Gazans. You don't have to exaggerate by pretending that the GHF don't feed anyone.

I'm not pretending anything. They aren't feeding all of the people they have lured into 10% of Gaza. You say yourself that there isn't enough food to feed all of the people they have lured to southern Gaza. Why lure them all there with the promise of food and then not feed them? They know how many people there are, hell they've even calculated how many calories they need to survive yet they still haven't fed them. Still more and more people are dying of malnutrition. Why? What is happening now has been warned of months and months and months. Israel knew what would happen if there wasnt enough food, so why is there not enough food?

Twiglets1 · 23/07/2025 11:00

ArtfulUser · 23/07/2025 10:54

Sadly it also isn't unique.

Since the onset of the Sudanese civil war there has been a severe famine.

According to WFP, approximately half of Sudan’s population – 25 million people – is facing extreme levels of hunger, including about five million children and mothers suffering acute malnutrition.

But no one gives a shit. It's never in the paper. One wonders why there isn't the same level of care on a global scale for the civilian victims of war.

I tried to post a link to the recent UN article on the subject but it didnt post for some reason.

That bold quote was from.the UN website. A recent article.

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Agree you hear very little about that war in the news. You would think the war in Gaza was uniquely horrible considering all the attention it gets, but no.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 23/07/2025 11:01

businessflop25 · 23/07/2025 10:20

WTAF!!! You think that denying a cruise ship to dock is in anyway comparable to what’s happening in Gaza?!!!

WTAF!!! You think that denying a cruise ship to dock is in anyway comparable to what’s happening in Gaza?!!!

I made no comparison. My point was that citizens should not be held accountable for the actions of their government

Clavinova · 23/07/2025 11:02

BelleHathor · 22/07/2025 23:25

Apologies, have been busy listening to Syrian minorities talking about what is happening right now in Syria.

I have just checked this and the link that I posted from Ramy Abdu (Assist. Prof of Law & Finance. Chairman EuromedHR) a Palestinian with family in Gaza was posted at 8:47am UK time around the time of the incident. Other videos posted around the same time from Palestinians showed the little boy with blood on him.

The TRT world (a Turkish media outlet with close ties to Erdoğan) video (here: https://x.com/trtworld/status/1947382236715667636) was posted at around 8:44pm UK time, 12 hours later and is 9 seconds shorter.

If you also look closely at the trt video they have blurred out the name of the person who released the video : abdulramin. W zard, which is clearly visible in the link from Ramy. They've also added their logo to the video.

I don't know where TRT sourced their video from (there are groups who deliberately edit videos in order to say that Palestinians are lying or allege "Pallywood") or why they posted it 12 hours after everyone else or whether they used a video editor but this link from another Turkish news site posted at 4:45pm UK time yesterday clearly shows the boy with blood.
https://x.com/anadoluagency/status/1947324658866331805

Thank you for posting the links.

If you also look closely at the trt video they have blurred out the name of the person who released the video : abdulramin. W zard, which is clearly visible in the link from Ramy. They've also added their logo to the video.

Yes, I see - although abdulramin. W zard runs down the side of the TRT video for a few seconds.

(there are groups who deliberately edit videos in order to say that Palestinians are lying or allege "Pallywood")

That seems plausible.

the link that I posted from Ramy Abdu (Assist. Prof of Law & Finance. Chairman EuromedHR) a Palestinian with family in Gaza

Alas, he seems to have some dubious links as well;
https://unwatch.org/un-human-rights-office-amplifies-blood-libel-by-terrorist-sympathizers

On October 7th and 8th Abdu justified and ecstatically celebrated the Hamas massacre on Twitter:

  • “In this battle, Palestine presented its elite young men and women on the path to freedom and dignity. Successive generations will remember you, and history will immortalize you as heroic knights who created for us pure glory, not stained with mud. Remember their names well and teach the stories of their eternal heroism to your children and grandchildren.”
ArtfulUser · 23/07/2025 11:03

Twiglets1 · 23/07/2025 11:00

Agree you hear very little about that war in the news. You would think the war in Gaza was uniquely horrible considering all the attention it gets, but no.

Im just baffled by the attention Gaza gets and always has got. It is not uniquely horrible as you say.

What is it about this that gets so much attention whilst everyone is happy to shrug and not care about far worse atrocities and humanitarian crises.

Thelmaandloulou · 23/07/2025 11:04

Over a 100 aid organisations have said mass starvation is spreading across Gaza. But Israel who is limiting the aid and distributing in a way that is often a death sentence for aid seekers is not at fault.

Thelmaandloulou · 23/07/2025 11:04

Go figure.

PaxAeterna · 23/07/2025 11:06

ArtfulUser · 23/07/2025 11:03

Im just baffled by the attention Gaza gets and always has got. It is not uniquely horrible as you say.

What is it about this that gets so much attention whilst everyone is happy to shrug and not care about far worse atrocities and humanitarian crises.

The difference is that Israel is an ally of western nations. It is committing these atrocities and has been supported by the EU, the UK and the US. We are all splattered with blood by what’s going on.

LipstickLessons · 23/07/2025 11:07

According to posters here Israel even know the exact amount of babies born, they know that the population of Gaza has supposedly grown since all of this. They know that terrorists are in every school, in every hospital, in every home, in tents but they don't know that kids will die without food? They know how much food is needed and they have made no effort to make sure that that amount enters Gaza. They don't even need to provide it. Just let it in and that's too much for them?! We are supposed to pretend that this is all just some terrible mistake, some badly designed system from the people that blew up pages across Lebanon. From the people we are told are world leaders in tech and life sciences? They can do all of this but not get food into babies bellies?

Clavinova · 23/07/2025 11:07

BelleHathor · 22/07/2025 23:26

Screenshots

Thanks - although your screenshot of the boy with the white face is odd. I can't see the boy's nose and mouth - whereas all his features were very visible in the TRT video.

MissyB1 · 23/07/2025 11:07

PaxAeterna · 23/07/2025 11:06

The difference is that Israel is an ally of western nations. It is committing these atrocities and has been supported by the EU, the UK and the US. We are all splattered with blood by what’s going on.

This is exactly the point! This is what posters who love a bit of whataboutery seem to forget!

ArtfulUser · 23/07/2025 11:08

PaxAeterna · 23/07/2025 11:06

The difference is that Israel is an ally of western nations. It is committing these atrocities and has been supported by the EU, the UK and the US. We are all splattered with blood by what’s going on.

But Palestinians should be free to murder, kidnap and rape with impunity you think? There are hardly coming to this with clean hands.

Im not splattered with blood thanks.

Clavinova · 23/07/2025 11:09

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 22/07/2025 21:44

Could you please post a link, because when I search for what you’ve described I can’t find anything.

Apologies, I did not see your post last night.

Twiglets1 · 23/07/2025 11:10

No I'm not splattered with blood either.

As far as I'm concerned, the UK are not responsible for what Palestinians or Israelis choose to do. It's their war not mine and their governments can take responsibility for their own actions.

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