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Conflict in the Middle East

27 children have been murdered by the IOF every day for 650 days in Gaza (UNICEF)

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Wedonttalkaboutboris · 19/07/2025 15:12

Facts:

  • At least 15,000 children have been killed since the war began in October 2023.
  • Many have died in airstrikes, building collapses, or stampedes at aid sites.
  • Thousands more have been injured, often with life-altering wounds, burns, or amputations.
  • Gaza is facing famine-like conditions.
  • Children are eating grass, leaves, or going days without food.
  • Severe malnutrition is widespread, especially in northern Gaza. Babies and toddlers are dying of hunger-related causes.
  • Nearly all children in Gaza are now considered to have signs of acute psychological trauma:
  • Nightmares
  • Bedwetting
  • Non-responsiveness (shutdown/dissociation)
  • Panic at loud sounds
  • Many have lost one or both parents, siblings, or entire families.
  • Most hospitals have been bombed or shut down.
  • Children can’t access basic care, vaccines, or treatment for chronic illnesses.
  • Wounded kids are operated on without anesthesia in some cases.
  • Over 1 million children have been displaced—many multiple times.
  • Families sleep in tents, rubble, or outdoors with no clean water or toilets.
  • Nearly all schools have been shut down, destroyed, or turned into shelters.
  • Many teachers and schoolchildren have been killed.
  • A whole generation risks growing up with no access to education or safety.
  • Children are drinking dirty water, leading to diarrheal diseases and infections.
  • Outbreaks of hepatitis, lice, and scabies are widespread.
  • Even in declared “safe zones” or aid areas, children have been shot, suffocated in stampedes, or killed by nearby strikes.
  • Some have died while queuing for water or food.

“There is no safe place left for children in Gaza. They are being killed, starved, maimed, and psychologically shattered. This is not a humanitarian crisis—this is a crisis of humanity.”
— Save the Children, July 2025

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BelleHathor · 22/07/2025 23:26

BelleHathor · 22/07/2025 23:25

Apologies, have been busy listening to Syrian minorities talking about what is happening right now in Syria.

I have just checked this and the link that I posted from Ramy Abdu (Assist. Prof of Law & Finance. Chairman EuromedHR) a Palestinian with family in Gaza was posted at 8:47am UK time around the time of the incident. Other videos posted around the same time from Palestinians showed the little boy with blood on him.

The TRT world (a Turkish media outlet with close ties to Erdoğan) video (here: https://x.com/trtworld/status/1947382236715667636) was posted at around 8:44pm UK time, 12 hours later and is 9 seconds shorter.

If you also look closely at the trt video they have blurred out the name of the person who released the video : abdulramin. W zard, which is clearly visible in the link from Ramy. They've also added their logo to the video.

I don't know where TRT sourced their video from (there are groups who deliberately edit videos in order to say that Palestinians are lying or allege "Pallywood") or why they posted it 12 hours after everyone else or whether they used a video editor but this link from another Turkish news site posted at 4:45pm UK time yesterday clearly shows the boy with blood.
https://x.com/anadoluagency/status/1947324658866331805

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27 children have been murdered by the IOF every day for 650 days in Gaza (UNICEF)
27 children have been murdered by the IOF every day for 650 days in Gaza (UNICEF)
Anonimummy · 22/07/2025 23:30

Changerj · 22/07/2025 22:23

Release the formula !

Seriously this is too disgusting for words!

I hope it’s not the case that the UN/NGOs are refusing to distribute all the thousands of tonnes of formula and baby food that Israel has facilitated into Gaza to starve babies as propaganda against the GHF.

If not, where’s it gone?

https://x.com/cogatonline/status/1947237506228826122

As a side note over 80,000 babies have been born in Gaza since Oct 2023. That would equate to the fertility rate doubling in a war with starvation, malnutrition, dehydration, lack of hygiene, and obviously stress, all of which are medically proven to reduce fertility.

https://x.com/cogatonline/status/1947237506228826122

Changerj · 22/07/2025 23:30

This proves what exactly

Crystalight · 22/07/2025 23:32

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 22/07/2025 22:47

I agree that the Palestinians deserve so much more… let’s start with food, water, medicine, and the right not to be bombed in their sleep!

Asking people to “come to the table with a clear head” while they’re being starved, displaced, orphaned, or made to dig their children from rubble… feels like a demand for quiet suffering, not peace.

You have my support 100%. I agree.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 22/07/2025 23:44

Anonimummy · 22/07/2025 23:30

Seriously this is too disgusting for words!

I hope it’s not the case that the UN/NGOs are refusing to distribute all the thousands of tonnes of formula and baby food that Israel has facilitated into Gaza to starve babies as propaganda against the GHF.

If not, where’s it gone?

https://x.com/cogatonline/status/1947237506228826122

As a side note over 80,000 babies have been born in Gaza since Oct 2023. That would equate to the fertility rate doubling in a war with starvation, malnutrition, dehydration, lack of hygiene, and obviously stress, all of which are medically proven to reduce fertility.

The idea that the UN and humanitarian agencies are hoarding or refusing to distribute baby formula to starve babies for propaganda purposes is not only absurd- it’s obscene.

Let’s be clear:
Aid trucks have been systematically blocked, delayed, and attacked.
Disrtibution networks have collapsed under bombardment.
Humanitarian workers (including UN staff) have been targeted and killed in record numbers. The World Food Programme, UNICEF, and countless NGOs have pleaded for safe, consistent access and have been ignored or denied.

Suggesting that these agencies, many of whose workers have died trying to deliver aid, are the villains here is a deliberate deflection from the fact that Israel has imposed a full siege, blocking or severely restricting essentials like water, food, fuel, and medical aid for months!

Can you also please point me to the evidence showing that Gaza’s birth rate has doubled since October 2023?

From what I’ve seen, the data suggests the opposite. The Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics estimates a population decrease in Gaza due to displacement and casualties, and projects a significant drop in birth rates in 2024 compared to 2023.

The UN Population Fund reports that around 130 babies are still being born daily in Gaza. Roughly in line with pre-conflict numbers, certainly not double. So far, no credible sources support the claim that Gaza’s birth rate has doubled during this time.

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Crystalight · 22/07/2025 23:46

Anonimummy · 22/07/2025 23:30

Seriously this is too disgusting for words!

I hope it’s not the case that the UN/NGOs are refusing to distribute all the thousands of tonnes of formula and baby food that Israel has facilitated into Gaza to starve babies as propaganda against the GHF.

If not, where’s it gone?

https://x.com/cogatonline/status/1947237506228826122

As a side note over 80,000 babies have been born in Gaza since Oct 2023. That would equate to the fertility rate doubling in a war with starvation, malnutrition, dehydration, lack of hygiene, and obviously stress, all of which are medically proven to reduce fertility.

Gosh. Harsh!

Changerj · 22/07/2025 23:51

The fact that babies are being born in Gaza doesn’t mean they’re being fed. Women give birth in famine zones, war zones, and refugee camps all over the world. Life continues, even under horror. Birth rates don’t erase starvation.
Saying ‘they can’t be starving because they’re still having babies’ is not a humanitarian argument—it’s a colonial one. It frames Palestinian life as a threat, not a tragedy.

Ask yourself: why does the idea of more Palestinian babies being born bother you so much? What does it say when a population growing is seen as a danger instead of a sign of survival?

Would you say people weren’t starving in Nazi ghettos or during the Irish famine just because some babies were still born?

Starvation isn’t about fertility. It’s about access to food, medicine, and dignity.
If your first instinct is to reduce children to a demographic threat instead of recognizing them as starving human beings, then something has gone very, very wrong.

Anonimummy · 23/07/2025 01:22

Changerj · 22/07/2025 23:51

The fact that babies are being born in Gaza doesn’t mean they’re being fed. Women give birth in famine zones, war zones, and refugee camps all over the world. Life continues, even under horror. Birth rates don’t erase starvation.
Saying ‘they can’t be starving because they’re still having babies’ is not a humanitarian argument—it’s a colonial one. It frames Palestinian life as a threat, not a tragedy.

Ask yourself: why does the idea of more Palestinian babies being born bother you so much? What does it say when a population growing is seen as a danger instead of a sign of survival?

Would you say people weren’t starving in Nazi ghettos or during the Irish famine just because some babies were still born?

Starvation isn’t about fertility. It’s about access to food, medicine, and dignity.
If your first instinct is to reduce children to a demographic threat instead of recognizing them as starving human beings, then something has gone very, very wrong.

Where did you get the idea that more Palestinian babies being born bothers me, is a sign of danger or is a threat? It doesn’t affect me at all so why are you making up such nonsense?

It certainly affects the babies, being born in a war zone though, where so many babies and children are already being killed.

All the things I listed severely affect fertility in both men and women so it is surprising that Gaza has such a high birth rate in such conditions especially as we have been told since the beginning of the war that starvation and lack of water has been a constant theme.

businessflop25 · 23/07/2025 02:11

@Anonimummyyou still haven’t provided any links or evidence which backs up your claim that the birth rate has increased.
And judging that there has been a distinct lack of aid including medical supplies it stands to reason that contraception of any kind probably isn’t readily available in Gaza just now.
I don’t doubt that there are a significant number of women in Gaza who are in shocking situations and that sexual violence will also be high also. Both Hamas and the IDF have proven that they have little regard for female autonomy and consent.
So why would it be surprising that the birth rate at least remained constant.
And let’s be clear here the number of babies being born will be significantly higher than the number of babies surviving.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 23/07/2025 06:56

Genocide.

Babies born.
Born to die.
Born to be shot.
Born to bombed.
Born to starve.
Born to be hungry.
Born to be thirsty.
Born to lose their mother.
Born to lose their father.
Born to live in rubble.
Born to be afraid.
Born to live.
Babies born.

Beachtastic · 23/07/2025 08:22

Sorry I posted on here banging my little drum without listening to what you were saying. I was tired and should have been in bed! My motivation for participating in these forums is anxiety about what’s happening in the UK, but this is not the thread for expressing that.

So, back on topic, regarding the situation in Gaza, yes, it is obviously beyond horrific, but I honestly don’t know what to make of how it is unfolding on the ground.

If you read Middle East Eye (posted 2 days 11 hours ago), it says that UNRWA has “accused Israel of starving civilians, including a million children in Gaza, by blocking vital food and medicine deliveries into the besieged enclave. UNRWA issued the warning on Sunday, calling on Israel to lift its blockade and allow humanitarian aid to flow freely. At militarised distribution sites run by the US- and Israel-backed GHF civilians trying to access the food are being shot and killed by the Israeli army.”

If you read MSN (posted 14 hours ago), it says “At least 101 people are known to have died of malnutrition during the conflict, including 80 children, most of them in recent weeks, according to officials. United Nations secretary-general Antonio Guterres has said malnourishment is soaring and starvation is knocking on every door in Gaza, describing the situation as a “horror show.” […] Some food stocks in the Palestinian territory have run out since Israel cut off all supplies in March and then lifted the blockade in May with new measures it said were needed to prevent aid from being diverted to militant groups. Israel has blamed the UN for failing to protect aid it says is stolen by Hamas and other groups. The fighters deny stealing it.”

Given the complications here (not least Hamas being indistinguishable from civilians, their habit of controlling supplies of any kind, etc), and doubts about the neutrality of the UN and UNRWA, literally anything could be happening for all I know.

It’s a really bizarre situation that Israel is held responsible for feeding Gaza, have there been other conflicts where this has happened? Israel knows the eyes of the world are watching, so surely it would be an “own goal” for them to blatantly block supplies?

PaxAeterna · 23/07/2025 08:36

It’s a really bizarre situation that Israel is held responsible for feeding Gaza, have there been other conflicts where this has happened? Israel knows the eyes of the world are watching, so surely it would be an “own goal” for them to blatantly block supplies?
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Yes there has. In many wars humanitarian aid to an enemy’s population will need to be facilitated by a government. This is very common. Think about it? Why wouldn’t it be common when borders are being controlled.

Israel don’t pay for the aid. The international community have provided aid that is now sitting near the border in warehouses while people starve a few miles down the road. this is not in denial by Israel.

They may be paying for the trickle of aid provided by GHF - their funding is not transparent. Part of the reason that they have been widely criticised.

Thelmaandloulou · 23/07/2025 08:37

Israel just has to allow the food in because right now they control all the borders into Gaza. @beachtastic you know that Israel isn't providing the aid? Other countries and organisations are. Israel have been blocking/allowing in minimum amounts.

This is the sort of propoganda that pro-israelis keep mindlessly repeating that why is Israel responsible. Please apply some critical thinking before posting.

Thelmaandloulou · 23/07/2025 08:38

You think Israel gives a shit?

Thelmaandloulou · 23/07/2025 08:38

What the world thinks? They only care about what the US thinks and will do.

Thelmaandloulou · 23/07/2025 08:40

Israel have been carrying out a genocide and yesterday the government held a conference called 'Gaza Riviera'

Yet you feel 'anxiety' that posters are pointing out plans for ethnic cleansing.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 23/07/2025 08:41

Anonimummy · 23/07/2025 01:22

Where did you get the idea that more Palestinian babies being born bothers me, is a sign of danger or is a threat? It doesn’t affect me at all so why are you making up such nonsense?

It certainly affects the babies, being born in a war zone though, where so many babies and children are already being killed.

All the things I listed severely affect fertility in both men and women so it is surprising that Gaza has such a high birth rate in such conditions especially as we have been told since the beginning of the war that starvation and lack of water has been a constant theme.

You’ve claimed Gaza’s birth rate has doubled since October 2023. That’s a bold statement, and so far, there’s zero credible evidence to support it. In fact, the available data suggests birth rates have remained broadly consistent.

Yes, it is deeply tragic that babies are being born into war but let’s be clear: the crisis isn’t the number of births. It’s that those babies are being born into siege, starvation, and relentless bombing, with food and medical aid deliberately blocked. Babies in the womb are being decapitated. That’s where the outrage belongs, not in speculative claims about how many babies are being born, but in the horrifying reality that so many are being left to die in unbearable, unimaginable ways.

So I have to ask: Why bring up an unverified “doubling” of the birth rate in a thread about 20,000 children being killed? What’s the actual implication here- that Palestinians can’t be suffering that badly if babies are still being born? That their deaths somehow matter less? If not, then what is your point?

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BelleHathor · 23/07/2025 08:42

A World Food Programme Aid Convoy came under fire whilst trying to deliver aid to North Gaza on the 20th July, resulting in multiple casualties.

^https://x.com/WFP/status/1947036919289741771^

"World Food Programme

WFP Statement | #Gaza

On the morning of 20 July, a 25 truck WFP convoy carrying vital food assistance crossed the Zikim border point destined for starving communities in northern Gaza.

Shortly after passing the final checkpoint beyond the Zikim crossing point into Gaza, the convoy encountered large crowds of civilians anxiously waiting to access desperately needed food supplies.

As the convoy approached, the surrounding crowd came under fire from Israeli tanks, snipers and other gunfire.

We are deeply concerned and saddened by this tragic incident resulting in the loss of countless lives. more suffered life-threatening injuries. These people were simply trying to access food to feed themselves and their families on the brink of starvation. This terrible incident underscores the increasingly dangerous conditions under which humanitarian operations are forced to be conducted in Gaza.

Today’s violent incident comes despite assurances from Israeli authorities that humanitarian operational conditions would improve; including that armed forces will not be present nor engage at any stage along humanitarian convoy routes.

There should never, ever, be armed groups near or on our aid convoys, as reiterated on many occasions to all parties to the conflict. Shootings near humanitarian missions, convoys and food distributions must stop immediately. Any violence involving civilians seeking humanitarian aid is completely unacceptable.

We stand firmly by our principles of operating with independence, impartiality and neutrality. It is one of the many reasons why communities trust us.

The World Food Programme continues to call for the protection of all civilians and aid workers delivering life-saving assistance. WFP teams accompanying convoys should not have to risk their own lives in the effort to save others. Without these fundamental conditions in place, we cannot continue providing life-saving support across the Gaza strip.

Gaza’s hunger crisis has reached new levels of desperation. People are dying from lack of humanitarian assistance. Malnutrition is surging with 90,000 women and children in urgent need of treatment. Nearly one person in three is not eating for days. Food aid is the only way for most people to access any food – as the cost of a one-kilogram bag of flour has surged to over USD100 in local markets.

Only a massive scale-up in food aid distributions can stabilize this spiraling situation, calm anxieties and rebuild the trust within communities that more food is coming.

An agreed ceasefire is long overdue. All hostages should be released, and humanitarians should be able to reach the civilian population in Gaza with critical food supplies in a consistent, predictable, orderly and safe manner -- wherever they are across the Gaza Strip.

WFP is ready. We have food supplies nearby, experienced teams on the ground, and proven systems in place to respond at scale. We did it before and we can do it again.

We urgently call on the international community and all parties to advocate for, and facilitate, the delivery of life-saving food aid to starving populations inside Gaza – safely, securely, wherever families are, and without obstruction."

https://x.com/WFP/status/1947036919289741771

Thelmaandloulou · 23/07/2025 08:47

But some posters are so naive they think Israel care that the world is watching their war crimes.

MissyB1 · 23/07/2025 08:49

Thelmaandloulou · 23/07/2025 08:47

But some posters are so naive they think Israel care that the world is watching their war crimes.

Israel regard themselves as untouchable now. Their arrogance is chilling.

PaxAeterna · 23/07/2025 08:56

Thelmaandloulou · 23/07/2025 08:47

But some posters are so naive they think Israel care that the world is watching their war crimes.

This is true. They have showed that they don’t care what international government’s have to say. They should no longer be considered an ally. They would just as easily work against the interests of western governments and with such an advanced military, they are a real concern.

Crystalight · 23/07/2025 09:29

I was reading today that an Israeli cruise ship was denied docking at Syros in Greece due to a protest against the genocide and starvation of the Palestinian people. In the article it stated that the passengers on the cruise ship then began to shout, “Turkey will fuck you”.

Pleasant behaviour right there.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 23/07/2025 09:52

Crystalight · 23/07/2025 09:29

I was reading today that an Israeli cruise ship was denied docking at Syros in Greece due to a protest against the genocide and starvation of the Palestinian people. In the article it stated that the passengers on the cruise ship then began to shout, “Turkey will fuck you”.

Pleasant behaviour right there.

Well pretty unpleasant on both sides to be fair. Israeli citizens should not be held accountable for their governments actions just like Palestinians shouldn't be.

BorgQueen · 23/07/2025 09:58

Fast forward a decade (maybe less) and we will need Israel more than ever for what’s coming.

We betray them at our peril.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 23/07/2025 10:02

BorgQueen · 23/07/2025 09:58

Fast forward a decade (maybe less) and we will need Israel more than ever for what’s coming.

We betray them at our peril.

Care to elaborate on your doomsday scenario?
If we are relying on a government like the current Israeli one we are doomed indeed

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