Anti-semitism in the UK

[Lolapusht]

Published yesterday I believe.

Evidence of anti-Semitism in the UK

Not sure if that link will work so…

https://x.com/nicolelampert/status/1944147294917439912?s=61&t=_cKTNp_TyAyzDViEOCJDFQ

No way. I really do refute that claim.

It would not be treated or received the same way at all. Because of not being afforded the same protection, preference and metaphorical ramming into spaces where people not interested in it, have to eat it up. ( This does not impact me personally. I do believe the experience of others who do live this).

We also have the fear encapsulating and suppressing debate. We have no Christianphobia after all?

I would happily debate regarding my problems with all religions. I have issues with elements within every single religion. I don't like or agree with aspects of the fundamentals of Judaism. Will I get a Fatwa on my ass for saying so? No. Arrested? No. My life at risk even? No. A high five? Well actually, yes maybe. From a fair amount I would actually suggest.

And this is a huge problem. Because it will breed the risk posed and vulnerability of this group. And I'm going to say Holocaust again.

I am continually, without moving, referring to the ideology of Islam. This is my language consistently. You are trying to adapt the language. I don't ever talk about ' them Muslims'. I don't do it. I wonder how awful it must be for many living in that system to be quite honest with you. The girls especially.

Herein lies just one of the examples of the double standard.

Zionism is both a political and religious ideology. As is Islam.

Both are therefore subject to the same rights for people to criticise as much as they wish, provided that the criticism isn't hateful.

Nobody thinks it's okay if our streets had mobs of people wanting to dismantle Islam. But they think it's perfectly acceptable to do that for Zionism.

Their argument is that Zionism is fundamentally discriminatory and causes suffering to people. I think you could make a similar argument for Islam.

The difference is, people inherently understand it's pretty gross...unless the targets are Jews. Then it's fine.

Please don't give me "but what about the children?" Because I could ask you "but what about the gays or the women or the tens of thousands of 10 year old sold in marriage?"

It's not a legitimate lime of criticism if you seek to demonise and destroy.

Ooh…I think your ire should be directed at me, not @quantumbutterfly. Well, partly anyway.

I was the one who mentioned OSINT sources on X.

You may not know how to filter out the grifters from genuine posters with reliable information, but I do. The accounts I follow are fine. I can hand on heart say that I do not follow them because they show the most gruesome footage and take your accusation as an insult.

The Sky News article you cited quote official Syrian sources which I’m sure are as reliable as Hamas sources. You can’t possibly write off every OSINT account on X as an unverified source then provide one source quoting the official response from a regime who has no desire to publish their brutality.

Who carried out the violence on the coast earlier this year that received an adequate amount of media coverage? Don’t think you answered that question, just went off on a diatribe about grifters and Twitter.

I can take the piss and be as derogatory as I like about a religion.
That’s what free speech means.
I can criticise any religion I choose to. I can poke fun at any god or prophet I choose to.
People do make sweeping comments about Jews, Christians etc. What we don’t do is threaten death on an individual because of a religious belief.
Jews: ‘tight’
JW: ‘tell everyone on FB to not answer the door and then discuss blood transfusions’
Christians: ‘bible bashers’ and ‘Praise Jebus’
I don’t hate anyone religious person and would not offer up death threats against them.

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“Calling out Zionism as a political ideology” so you don’t think Israel should exist as a country. Cool. Now we’re getting somewhere.

I really wouldn’t describe pro-Palestine supporters as being silenced.

This is a thread about the unacceptable rise of anti-Semitism in the UK and yet here you are complaining you’re being silenced because of your support for Palestine.

@Voxon
Exactly my point but your way of putting it was better than mine.
It is double standards. I will wave my Israel flag with my Union flag and keep laughing at the vile comments I get from mainly Muslim men.

I am so sorry for your terrible experiences, OP.

Please know that my family and I stand with British Jews and will always fight antisemitism.

’Never again’.

@Hotchocolatebuns on being able to call out Zionism:

”Calling out Zionism as a political ideology or opposing the actions of the Israeli state (especially when they involve the killing and displacement of thousands) is a moral stance, not a hateful one.
Meanwhile, Islamophobia and other forms of racism are often ignored or normalised, and that double standard is deeply concerning. We should be able to speak clearly and firmly against injustice wherever it happens without being shouted down with bad-faith accusations.
Silencing people by calling them antisemitic for caring about Palestinian lives not only misuses the term, it dilutes the fight against real antisemitism.”

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@Hotchocolatebuns on on Islamophobia:

“But painting an entire religion as the root of the problem crosses a line. It’s not brave or honest, it’s just lazy and dangerous. People aren’t being “silenced” for asking hard questions, they’re being called out for blaming whole communities based on fear and bias.”

Blaming “Islam as an ideology” is just recycled bigotry. You wouldn’t say “Judaism is the problem” and expect a pass. Singling out 1.9 billion people while claiming concern for girls or invoking the Holocaust isn’t deep, it’s absurd.

Your response completely misrepresents what I’ve said. Criticising the policies of the Israeli government or opposing Zionism as a political ideology is not the same as blaming Jews. That’s a deliberate conflation, and it shuts down legitimate discussion. If someone criticised the Iranian regime, you wouldn’t accuse them of Islamophobia. So why pretend criticism of a state equals hatred of a people here?

What is dangerous is using bad-faith accusations of antisemitism to silence people speaking out against state violence.

@Hotchocolatebuns I literally copy and pasted what you said. Fell free to add additional text from your posts if you feel the context of your comments hasn’t been represented correctly.

Not true at all. You are peddling more inappropriate lines such as bigotry. I as a female have some very big problems with an ideology that seems to despise women.

Why did young beautiful ladies from Oct 7th have their breasts sliced off? Why metal poles found inside vaginas? You don't know me enough to know this is a very big trigger for me personally. Why these acts in particular and what does this tell us? Why were men found with metal poles inserted into their anus? Why that? What do you think? And this is all a reflection of that ideology.

I never before reflected on why Andrew Tate converted to Islam. Someone suggested why on a podcast i listened to. Can you imagine why someone like this would be drawn to that. Have a guess.

I absolutely will rip Judaism as an ideology a new arsehole if I happen to observe, receive messages consistently in my space about fundamentals that are anti to my values. If this then grows into a situation where people are being subjugated, threatened and ignored when they talk about it. Well yes you'll hear me on here talking very openly about that.

I am absolutely disgusted by the ideology of Catholicism in many ways. I would have to reflect on the holy books and if domination of others is a key message in them. Maybe it is. I am really horrified by history wherein this ideological bullshit was forced upon people who were ripped from homes and forced into boarding schools. If this was here in my face now, I would be talking loudly.

You don't like my honesty. I'm saying things people believe and it's unsettling.

There's not one thing bigoted about me. I know my values are pretty grounded. I'm simply not with the masses. I'm always happy to be re educated too and this is not the definition of the things I'm accused of being.

I'm sorry to derail.

...and still silence on these simple questions. Might the answers reveal too much about what's actually behind the original subject of this thread - that is, the safety of Jewish people in our own country - before it got diverted into finny-fannying around the intricacies of Middle Eastern politics?

Yeah having just looked everywhere online there is no evidence of what you just said re the cutting off breasts and the poles. That’s as credible as the 40 beheaded babies.

More children died just now in Gaza by Israel than all the children in October 7th and the child hostages.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/13/dozens-of-palestinians-killed-in-latest-israeli-attacks-near-food-aid-distribution-sites-medics-and-witnesses-say

This is a nasty horrible comment - dismissing the suffering of Jewish people- on a thread that is about anti semitism in the UK.

Unbelievable that we have posters referring to “40 beheaded babies” in order to mock the atrocities of October 7th
Shame on you

@Hearing I will go look for the source I watched. I agree it's not ok to say anything if there's no validity to that. I'll retract if there's nothing to suggest it's factual. It came from October 7 hostage testimonies. I'll find the source.

The Guardian article. That is horrible. I have no words to convey what I feel about kids blasted to pieces. I accept it's not right. I accept if that is no accident, if it's deliberate, it's a very uncomfortable reality.

I can accept lots of horrible things here.

I still feel the same about every single point I have.

I'm quite sure there will be enough evidence out there that will confirm the point regarding Hamas, the place they come from and their intent. Look at that girl bent in two on the back of a truck. Come on. This is no stretch for goodness sake.

I do hear you though. It's important to verify....

Awful, truly heartbreaking. They deserve to have a government who cares. That’s why Hamas needs to go and a more moderate government in power.
Maybe then our Jewish community can stop living in fear of death threats.

The mental gymnastics it takes to look at the charred bodies of children and somehow pin their deaths on anyone but the government that dropped the bombs is staggering.

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Nice little bit of blindness to everyday anti-Semitism.

I think there are many on this thread who would see no problem with that image, @Lolapusht

Mary Beard is a historian though. She really should know better.

Is that an attempt at insulting me 🤣🤣🤣
Hilarious that you can only see Israel as the reason for this shit and not the terrorist government that fucked off to Israel to rape and murder innocent people.
Why is that?

Islam is both a religion and a political ideology.

Religion at its core is about belief in a higher power, moral values, and spiritual practices. However, some religions include systems of law or social governance (like Sharia in Islam or halakha in Judaism), which can overlap with political life.

Sharia law is applied to varying degrees in around 35–40 countries, but for some (Saudi, Iran, Afghanistan, Sudan) it the sole or primary legal system. So yes, it is both.

People can criticise any religion they wish to in this country, and any political ideology. Islamic ideology, when interpreted through its most regressive forms, has caused immense suffering to countless innocents across the world.

In places where hardline interpretations dominate, girls as young as nine are forced into child marriages, denied education, and treated as property rather than people. Women are stoned for alleged adultery and homosexuals are lynched —all under the guise of divine law.

Blasphemy laws crush free speech, religious minorities are persecuted, and honour killings are excused as cultural norms. While many Muslims live peacefully and interpret their faith with compassion, the damage done by political Islam—when scripture is weaponised as law—is staggering and spans continents. It is not just a spiritual belief system in these cases; it becomes a machine of control, fear, and generational trauma.

I find it interesting that you dismiss this whilst claiming virtue for your "anti zionist" views, given that aside from it's political context it is also a core part of the Jewish faith just as Pilgramage to Mecca is a core part of Islam. This is exactly the double standard I was describing.

I am sure you believe you're doing a great job denying Jewish people the right of self-determination, but being anti-zionist is fundamentally no different to being anti-Islam, as it requires you to ignore a vast amount of data to settle on a discriminatory view.

You might not like zionism. Based on your posts here, id guess thats because you filter out any information that contradicts your existing bias, but I assure you 15 million people living in Israel are really grateful for it and would be at huge risk Of persecution or even death were you to succeed at destroying it.