At long last the police are cracking down on hard marches

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq6mjg13dz6o

I think it's great that the police are starting to take supporting terrorists seriously and are now using anti terror legislation to start making the arrests that should have happened some time ago. As predicted as the Gaza conflict has ground on there are more and more pro Palestine looks prepared to flirt with proscribed groups.

Maybe some halal time or fines will make these people think a bit more.

Labelling organisations that oppose mass civillian deaths by painting airplanes or damaging arms manufactures as 'terrorists' undermines the label of the word terrorist.

The fact that you can be arrested for supporting an organisation that has never harmed anyone but absolutely no consequence comes for supporting the actions of a psychopathic regime who have killed thousands and thousands of children is disgusting.

Are we allies to Sudan?

Correct.

Well my friend is Jewish and attended one of these marches with me and her DD came along too.

I am listening to Jewish voices. There are a lot of moderate Jewish voices coming out of Israel now. I wish they got more coverage.

Me too. For some reason everyone is focussed on the fringe extremists.

So predictable 😂its a shame I'm tee total...we could turn bingo into a drinking game instead. We'll all be smashed!

No I am not exhausted, but I think we have a duty to care about humanitarian crisis. It’s not that difficult to follow. I donate to humanitarian organisations who work in conflict areas. I also used to work for an aid organisations who myself, but I was not stationed in a war zone. I am not brave enough for that.

Hezbollah were planning to attack Israel at the same time as Hamas. This was not ‘just a little bad thing’ as Dawn French would have you believe. It was attempted annihilation. Hostages have still not been returned. We should be screaming for their release but all we hear are excuses.

@SisforSusanna the border towns that were attacked on October 7th had a lot of aid workers and pro Palestinians living there. Hamas didn’t care, they slaughtered them anyway. Videoed them using their own phones and uploaded their slaughter to their own social media pages. No one wants to hear it.

Devastating Netanyahu pulled out of the last ceasefire. If he’d stuck to the deal they’d all be home now

What point are you trying to make here? You write as if I am a Hamas supporter. This is exactly what I mean by wanting a thread to discuss the way forward without people being so one sided.

Is that why there’s more coverage?

Good grief. The point is that Hamas doesn't want peace. It doesn't want 2 states. The very constituency that has worked for decades for peace was attacked on 7 October. Look up Oded Lifschitz. He lived at Nir Oz Kibbutz. Despite he and others working with people in Gaza, taki g them to medical appoi tments through the charity Road to Recovery the kibbutz was attacked by rockets prior to 7 October and Hamas built a tunnel near there. They were attacked on 7 Oct, residents tortured, murdered and kidnapped.

@SisforSusanna that’s the way you are coming across. There can be no solution when one side wants to totally annihilate Jews from the earth. It’s part of their doctrine. How do you remedy that? You can’t square a circle.

Absolutely @SharonEllis well said.

I don’t see any posts from me where I think that Hamas wants a 2 state solution. I previously posted that both NB and Hamas are wanted for war crimes. I see them both as war criminals. BN AND Hamas. I want peace for the Palestinian and Israeli people. Is this clear enough?

It’s just confusing for you that someone can be against the Israeli government and Hamas at the same time. Some people are just black and white and this conflict is not black and white.

How you propose to achieve it is unclear.

New leadership both in Israel and Palestine who can come together and negotiate. First of all, an end to the ceasefire and aid organisations to get free passage to help the civilians in Gaza. This must be aided by Hamas and Israel as both parties are an obstacle to ending the humanitarian crisis.

If people think the solution is simple enough to crowdsource on a parenting forum, they should crack on. Not sure how you're going to overthrow two governments and install new ones of your choosing, but it sounds like you're on top of it.

Sarcasm aside, people should knock themselves out if they want to attach to causes. I'll support them all the way even if I disagree with their ideas: but the protests every week are wasting our resources, and are menacing to the Jewish community and indeed to others.

There's no reason at all anybody needs a mask or a hezbollah flag or to use tropes or go anywhere near a single Jewish business or synagogue. A terrible precedent has been set with this awful behaviour.

From where I'm standing two years this has gone on and no Palestinians have been helped at all.

I didn’t say it was easy, but it’s a fairly accepted view in the international community that a 2 state solution is the way forward. It’s not something I have dreamt up. I also think both NB and Hamas don’t have their own peoples interest at heart. Also not a controversial opinion, even within Israel…

oh bless you. You think Hamas would agree to that? They’d tell you anything to your face but their agenda, their doctrine, will remain unchanged. And they are just puppets of Iran. It’s a way bigger issue.

...to put it mildly. But presumably s/he has far better ideas than those with their very existence at stake and access to military intelligence. Silly old Israel just can't be arsed working out a simple solution, oh hold on it's because they are enjoying their killing spree, etc etc.