At long last the police are cracking down on hard marches

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq6mjg13dz6o

I think it's great that the police are starting to take supporting terrorists seriously and are now using anti terror legislation to start making the arrests that should have happened some time ago. As predicted as the Gaza conflict has ground on there are more and more pro Palestine looks prepared to flirt with proscribed groups.

Maybe some halal time or fines will make these people think a bit more.

I never said they should stop arresting people. Don't be silly.

This.

Also when someone pops up with people being 'in the pay' of Israel you know they are just repeating antisemitic talking points, at best unthinkingly. Its hardly a considered analysis is it?

You said the focus should be on stopping war crimes.....whose focus should be on that?

does not seem to indulge in anything remotely recognisable as terrorism

They behave like bullying thugs, that's good enough for me.

Ilan Pappe recently wrote a book about lobbying:
"Pappe unveils how over a century of aggressive lobbying changed the map of the Middle East. Pro-Israel lobbies convinced British and American policymakers to condone Israel’s flagrant breaches of international law, grant Israel unprecedented military aid and deny Palestinians rights. Anyone who questioned unconditional support for Israel, even in the mildest terms, became the target of relentless smear campaigns. Lobbying for Zionism on Both Sides of the Atlantic shows us how an unassailable consensus was built – and how it might be dismantled."

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lobbying-Zionism-Both-Sides-Atlantic/dp/0861544021

They are the official British values whether you agree with them or not.

It’s because people like you misused the laughing emoji which was supposed to be used for humour not trolling that MN unfortunately had to remove it.

Hahaha. So the Jewish conspiracy were fine with two years of swastikas, hate mobs, synogues being targeted, antisemitism through the roof but they drew the line at breaking into Brize Norton and damaging our military planes?

Nope. Our government were fine with all those things are drew that line because its a big problem for Britain if defence is being interfered with.

I always find it so funny when people use all this sophistry to excuse their antisemitism. Anything other than confront it. Doesn’t fool me.

Supporting and campaigning for a free Palestinian state is very different from supporting a banned group.

Absolutely, and I've no idea why people conflate the two.

You are the one who keeps asserting this is a "jewish conspiracy", not me.

It's also palpably ridiculous to suggest that PA were eventually proscribed because pro-Israel lobbyists took exception to them breaking into RAF Brize Norton, which is why I have implied no such chain of events, and why it's so bizarre this is apparently what you appear to believe.

PA were proscribed purely and simply because what they were doing was effective in both highlighting UK complicity in events in Gaza, and making life extremely uncomfortable for the current UK government. Proscription is/was an effective tool to silence them in a way that existing laws could not, but even that is backfiring somewhat because it's clearly not putting off PA supporters, it is not silencing the outcry at the UK's complicity, and it has also served to expose Starmer's mob for the impotent, reactionary, authoritarian fools that they are.

As I said, they are values which are held by a sizable proportion of the planet's population irrespective of their national identity, so even labelling them "British" is nonsense and yet another example of exceptionalism

It’s because people like you misused the laughing emoji which was supposed to be used for humour

I would like it back for the purpose of humour, in this particular instance, laughing at the assertion these values are "unique to the UK" when they are also part and parcel of life in countless other free, open, and democratic States. This claim deserves nothing but being pointed and laughed at.

They don't deserve enough respect, to question their motives. They are now, thankfully, classed as terrorists - that speaks for itself. I find your assertion that they aren't driven by antisemitism, as naive, as it is disrespectful.

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agree

It is worrying when a covert "pro-Palestine" group becomes increasingly violent. There is the chance that members become radicalised (if not already), and then, as we know from bitter experience, all hell can break loose.

Sick to death of this on our streets every single week. So tedious now.

Palestine Action are a proscribed terrorist group in the UK like Hamas.

What British value states that throwing paint on expensive planes is terrorism just “like” massacring 1,200 people in one day, including raping dozens of women to death and shooting children?

(Palestine action may be banned, but its offensive to say they are like Hamas)

You put “unique to the UK” in quotation marks as if I said that but I didn’t.

I did factually state that they are the official British values.

They are only like Hamas in that they are a proscribed terrorist group.

Sorry if the way I phrased this unintentionally offended you.

Get over calling Tommy Robinson a fascist. He’s a Zionist

I wasn't quoting you.

I was quoting @mouthpipette

HTH

@Dangermoo

They are now, thankfully, classed as terrorists - that speaks for itself

It speaks for nothing other than the fact we have a hilariously thin-skinned government, entirely willing to abuse it's majority in an attempt to quash perfectly legal protest rather than face up to the entirely valid criticism of it helping to facilitate a genocide.

Again, I'd like some solid examples of terrorist atrocity perpetrated by "terror group" Palestine Action.

The idf is an army, I thought we had some quite old laws about private armies in England at least. Any lawyers know if they're still on the rolls.