Christian town in west bank attacked and burned

[smallglassbottle]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLsIanHxtrC/?igsh=MXZsMnlvM2Fxa3Iycw==

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/265035/priest-warns-christian-town-of-taybe-in-holy-land-no-longer-safe-amid-settler-attacks

https://www.friendsoftheholyland.org.uk/taybeh

I'm an Orthodox Christian. It has just occurred to me that we might lose all of our sacred places in the Holy Land if this hostility by israel continues.

There are small numbers of Protestants.

Cheers for clarifying @smallglassbottle.

It was all over the TV news at the time. It was Sunday 29t was also on the news on Monday. It was in response to the awful chants at Glastonbury.
It was in lots of papers too.

Awful chants at Glastonbury? Against Palestinian Christians?

What did they say?

Not sure they did clarify anything? The source of their Treaclewell's evidence was something they 'heard' and suhgested that catholics/orthodox were the wrong kind, when thats what most Palestinian christians are. Now @smallglassbottle says not Protestants when there certainly are protestants and evangelicals among Palestinian christians. So Im none the wiser what is being claimed here.

No, against the IDF at Glastonbury Festival.

I have been racking my brains for the sources, and have a nasty thought that it was a convert to a very evangelical church among my colleagues. They weren't comfortable with the traditional churches over here, either. So the Catholics and Orthodox over there are not kosher. The Allah comment was I think on TV.

I don't know what this means. Some Christians keep kosher but I think its pretty marginal. Are you saying extremist Jews attack Christians because they dont keep kosher?

I don't have a television or a TV licence. I get news from a couple of websites online or times radio.

Christians do not keep Kosher, nor do they call God Allah.

The reality is that Israel is backed by a strongly Christian country, the US so I really do not see some agenda against Christians.

The reality is that violent Jewish settlers are being backed by a minority death cult sect of "Christians" in the US who don't give a shiney shit about Christians or anyone else in the ME.

Violent Jewish settlers are also being let off, scott free, when they commit crimes (assault, arson, murder) against Palestinians. Indeed the IDF back them.

Why?

We do call God Allah. It’s just the Arabic word for God. Some Christians, particularly orthodox Christians do not eat pork and opt for halal meat. If you research how orthodox Christians pray you will be surprised to see it is very similar to the way Muslims pray.
Christianity began in the Middle East and Islam adopted many Christian (and Jewish) customs.

Actually some Christians do adopt kosher eating guidelines, though I think with some variation from Jewish kosher rules. Christians were originally Jews, right? Seventh day adventists spring to mind but I think there are others. BibiSuzanne has put you straight on calling god allah.

Who is we?

I know what Allah means. It is not a name I associate with Christianity. Not the orthodox churches, not Catholicism and definitely not Protestants.

Christians in the ME may choose to not eat pork and opt for halal meat, that does not mean they keep Kosher or keep Halal.

It certainly doesn't keep them safe.

We meaning Christian Arabs. I was raised Roman Catholic by my Palestinian father and Iraqi mother. Both sides of the family used Allah and Ya Rab for God. Are you an Arab? If so what word do you use?

I did not say they keep kosher or halal. Just that they opt for the halal option.

Seventh Day Adventists?

The religion founded in the US in the 19th century? Them Seventh Day Adventists? Do they keep Kosher?

@BibiSuzanne calls god "Allah" because her dad did. No Christian denomination calls God "Allah". Jehova, Emanuel, God, Jesus, Christ, yes. Allah, no.

Anyway I fail to see what that has to do with Jewish settler violence against Palestinians, be they Christians or not.

Thanks, my Christian friends in the Levant who speak Arabic also use Allah.

My friends in Syria in the last village to speak Aramaic also use Alaha or Elaha.

My Mum is a half Lebanese Catholic and uses "Allah". Although she doesn't generally speak Arabic as she doesn't remember much from childhood, my whole family use expressions in Arabic and one is "Allah!" like as an emotional expression - much like saying “Oh God!”

It wasnt me that suggested it. I have been trying to find out.
Yes 'them' Seventh Day Adventists follow the guidelines set out in the Old Testament about clean and unclean meats which I think is what is meant by biblical (rather than rabbinical) kosher. As I said, not the same as Jewish kashrut but same origins and similar practice. I was trying to make sense of the pp's implication that there a kosher dimension to the attacks on Palestinian christians.

ALL my Dad’s and Mum’s family and friends in Palestine and Iraq and Lebanon ( where he was exiled to) use Allah. Why would Arabs use the English word? Where are you getting your information from? You haven’t answered me regarding if you are an Arab.

Jesus used the Aramaic word ABBA for father to address God.
And also the Aramaic Eli which means my God

There are similarities with the word Allah ( to me anyway)

The really sad thing is that the Holy Land might soon find itself without any Palestinian Christian presence. The Palestinian Christians originate from some of the earliest Christian communities and their presence in the Holy Land was a connection across time.

It’s a terrible time for all Palestinians but Christian Palestinians are more vulnerable as they are a minority group in Gaza and have been targeted and oppressed by Hamas as well as being targeted and oppressed by settlers in the West Bank.

I agree. And I think there are lots of similarities in language across the 3 abrahamic religions because they are rooted in the same place with a lot of cultural mixing. Its why all this perception of the Jewish people as white europeans is so ridiculously wide of the mark. All 3 religions are rooted in the Middle East.

Jesus spoke Aramaic, so what did he call God? Apart from Abba, which is Father, but more of a Daddy implication. I remember being told by a theological teacher who had been to Israel, how she had been moved to hear a small boy call for help to his father, using the word "Abba". It gave her a new insight to the Lord's Prayer. We don't have a Bible using anything but our vernacular, in English speakers case a word derived from Anglo-Saxon pagans. French use Dieu. Why on earth would Arabic or Aramaic speakers not use their vernacular name for God?

And I am sorry to have used "not kosher" in this context, when what I meant was "not acceptable". I used it, as I sometimes do, jokingly, for anything which is rejected. Obviously here it was interpreted seriously, but did lead to useful information.

Might be fake news for all we know. I wouldn’t take anything seriously from Instagram.