Israeli soldier openly talks about how the IDF kill innocent Palestinians

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This is one of the most shameful articles I have read regarding the IDF's war crimes in Gaza.

This soldier talks openly how they would shoot innocent Palestinians and how it was like the wild west. The commanders would act depending on how they felt that day. Whether to shoot innocent civilians or kidnap them. Some held the belief that there are no innocents in Gaza and acted accordingly and this belief and subsequent war crimes were not challenged.

It's a hard read but a must. Especially for those who insist the IDF are only fighting Hamas and innocents are just caught up. This article aswell as many others shows that innocents have always been targeted.

https://news.sky.com/story/israeli-soldier-describes-arbitrary-killing-of-civilians-in-gaza-13393422

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I think if he is telling the truth, then he must come out with his identity and state his story so it can be verified. He might face some backlash, but he can't expect the world to take an anonymous single source amongst 630k without some corroboration and it's far too serious a matter to be taken lightly. Although the world will indeed do that.

People believe what they want to believe.

Anonymous sources are not normally taken that seriously. But where they happen to be an anonymous source saying things that confirm peoples’ prejudices against Israel, the reliability of the source is not questioned.

How verified is the news article, a reservist and a few mays, mights, oftens, sometimes....?
We have to remember yesterday was the 20th anniversary of 7/7 where we saw the carnage of the enemy that Israel has to deal with daily. Civilian looking people willing to blow themselves up in view of killing as many others as possible.
The article of one anonymous reservist seems a bit ambiguous to take as a general overall view of IDF. Who knows who it really is?
I am totally against any abuse of civilians obviously and do wish hamas would stop hiding amongst them.

Palestinian supporters are unable to think further after what would happen, if theoretically (or practically) Palestinians got their own country? They would drive it to the ground! That’s what they would do. Israel is quite poor in natural resources and minerals (someone correct me on this if I am wrong) yet it’s a successful, thriving country with an equally thriving economy. Jews can make a success out of nothing, it’s in their nature. But how would Palestinians make a living out of this same, natural resource-poor country? Tourism would be out of the question - at least for a while - as the threat of terrorism would be high. They would be begging for aid from developed countries and play on the soft heart of the West for donations. It would be just another failed Muslim state, probably with a dictator or a terrorist organisation running it.

This is the most beyond stupid prejudice ridden comment I’ve seen in a while.
“Jews can make a success out of nothing” and Arabs are dumb and would run a county to the ground “it’s in their nature”.

Fuck me what a nasty outlook of the world.

Talk about othering and dehumanising.

Jewish people are not smarter or better than Muslims or anyone else for that matter. They aren’t some sort of master race that get to decide who else is good enough.

There is a word for your post and it’s called racism.

You are not answering the question. How would they govern their newly founded country?

My post is not racist, I am just trying to be realistic. Fed up with some people always pulling the racist card!
“Jews can make a success out of nothing” how on earth do you connect this to racism??

It’s a fact that the Jewish people are remarkably resilient, creative, resourceful and successful. They’re still around after millennia, that alone is amazing, never mind the persecutions they’ve experienced, culminating in a literal ‘Final Solution to the Jewish Problem’ - it’s pretty impressive.

People believe what they want to believe.

So you're suggesting a news story by sky news and not questioned anywhere as false shouldn't be believied? Despite other news articles publishing similar stories coming out on this before

Anonymous sources are not normally taken that seriously. But where they happen to be an anonymous source saying things that confirm peoples’ prejudices against Israel, the reliability of the source is not questioned.

Absolute rubbish whistleblowers are taken very seriously. This is not anonymous, sky news know who it is they have requested their identify to be hidden for their own protection. You must have been hiding under a rock your whole life if this is some kind of new phenomenon to you. You are choosing not believe for your own reasons but suggesting the majority that have no reason not to believe this article is because they have some kind of prejudice towards Israel is offensive.

It really is they've completely dehumanised them and it is clear this poster sees them as less than and Jews superior, shocking.

Newsflash no one race or ethnicity is greater than the other go do a bit of research or maybe you denounce scientific facts as well

Absolutely agree that these allegations are far too serious to hide behind anonymity and without evidence.

We have chants of ‘Death to the IDF’ by the general public, lists of IDF soldiers being compiled with personal details and addresses, Jewish people and also Israeli citizens being attacked, threatened, banned and insulted due to the purported actions of the IDF which as a military organisation is labelled evil, fascist, baby killers etc.

If you’re going to put your fellow soldiers and country men/women at risk, at least stand up and show yourself!

Shocking Sky thought it was acceptable to run this story with absolutely no evidence to back it up in the current climate of my 2nd paragraph, and rather shows bias IMO.

You seek to completely misunderstand the difference between anonymous source with no evidence and not publishing the identity of a source.
The soldier in the article is not responsible for any of the things you have listed in your post. Really mental to suggest they are. Why on earth wouldn’t a whistle blower be given the very typical protection of public anonymity? So they can be attack for speaking out? Interesting.

What have I misunderstood?

Sky have not even stated how they verified this persons identity or what he is saying from what I could see from that article.

Oh I'm sure it's intentional to discredit it.

Sorry meant to tag @Hodgemollar

Of course it's intentional. If Netanyahu came out and said the IDF have been shooting innocent civilians, posters here would try to discredit him and probably call him antisemitic into the bargain.

Anyway, I'm glad this us out in the open and being discussed. Israels behaviour is open to the world now and can't be forgotten or unseen. It's not being held accountable yet as we have right wing governments in too many countries, but I believe this war is a real stain on how people see Israel now. And its not good.

Which govt? UK? Is it?

If so, how are they supposed to get here?

@ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend just because Sky news report a story of something an anonymous source said that does not make the anonymous source more credible, No. .

It may be true, it may not but we don't actually know for sure either way.

They aren’t like us insofar as they voted to be governed by a proscribed terrorist organisation.

I’d suggests that’s a pretty big difference.

Offering asylum to people who voted for a terrorist organisation. What could possibly go wrong?

I don't think it's true that the UK has offered asylum to "anyone in Palestine" anyway.

If it is, please provide a source.

Exactly, More historical revisionism with a large dose of supremacist, colonial language.

Palestine was a thriving country prior to the Balfour Declaration, it was not a "desert" made to bloom or a land without a people.

just because Sky news report a story of something an anonymous source said that does not make the anonymous source more credible, No. .

Fine I've no reason not to believe though, particularly since other media sources have run similar stories before. Because I do believe it does not mean I hate Israel which you originally suggested in your post. So maybe stop with your inflammatory unfounded accusations. You have scolded posters in the past for these kind of inflammatory remarks.

The region of Palestine was never a ‘country’ for a start and it was ruled by the Ottoman Empire NOT Arabs before 1919.

Recollections may vary as to how thriving the region was before Jewish immigrants and the British arrived with money to invest in infrastructure.

theettingerreport.com/arab-migration-shaped-palestinian-society/

Now that you are at lecturing us with the region’s history, perhaps you should also mention Amin al-Husseini, the grand mufti of Jerusalem who was buddy buddy with Hitler and wanted to exterminate the Jews. Naice!