Why kill Dr Marwan Sultan?

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Just that, why kill one of the few (2) cardiologists and his WHOLE family? So much for the targeted attacks. Or shall we go with the current zionist theory that all of Gaza is a sleeper cell.
Israel needs to be held to account for the hell they have created.

Of course there is Hamas in the West Bank!

For those who don't want to watch the whole documentary here are a couple of trailers.
This is from their own mouths those who committed the crimes! No amount of twisting and spinning is going to change it. They openly admit and some even boast about what they did. The documentary maker was brave and well done to him and all those from breaking the silence who actually tell the truth and don't try to hide behind propaganda and semantics

Thank you @Stormwalker seems worth a watch. One thing the director calls out is the myth that Palestinians left their homes of their volition during the Nakba I have heard that lie repeated on here by numerous of the usual posters,

Yes it's another of the numerous foundation "myths" about modern Israel created in order to justify their actions.

Good article here:
https://mondediplo.com/1997/12/palestine#:~:text=As%20for%20the%20broadcasts%20by,were%20invented%20for%20pure%20propaganda.

You are quite literally saying ‘look what you made me do’

This comment hasn’t aged well, has it?

“I hope you’ll be back to admit you’re wrong when Hamas do eventually agree to terms, hand back the hostages, and there is actually a ceasefire.”

Since then, Netanyahu has rejected multiple ceasefire proposals, including a comprehensive deal that would have released all hostages. In July 2025, Hamas offered such a deal, but Netanyahu declined, adding last-minute demands that derailed the negotiations.

Just this month an Israeli airstrike in Doha targeted Hamas officials during ceasefire talks, leading Qatar’s Prime Minister to state that Netanyahu “killed any hope” of releasing hostages.

Hamas haven't agreed to terms so I've no idea what you mean?

They will, and lots of people will have needlessly died in the meantime.

I honestly dont understand your point, and I'm still waiting for Hamas to f off. As is everyone in Gaza.

Netanyahu has rejected ceasefire proposals that don't include Hamas disarming and leaving Gaza - as you very well know but always leave out of the sentence when you say that Netanyahu has rejected ceasefire proposals.

So we go round in circles once again because what would be the point of him agreeing a ceasefire proposal that enables Hamas to remain and do another 7/10 on a different date in the future?

We can be sure it’s clearly not about the hostages- Netanyahu has repeatedly rejected offers that would have released them, while continuing airstrikes and expansionist policies. The hostages are being used as a political tool, not a genuine reason for action.

Agree it's not primarily about the remaining hostages.

Personally I think Netanyahu holds out little hope of getting them back alive anyway without conceding his other demands (for Hamas to disarm and leave Gaza).

My guess it that he has privately decided that he can't allow future hostages to be taken and people killed for the sake of the 20 or fewer hostages remaining alive. He can't say this publicly but his actions appear to show it.

If it’s not about the hostages the only “justification” left is Hamas. Yet international law is clear: civilians, especially children, cannot be deliberately targeted to get at a military group. Starving, bombing, and flattening entire neighbourhoods (even farmland) to pressure/punish Hamas is illegal. Repeated, systematic attacks on civilians are war crimes- and possibly genocide. Targeting Hamas doesn’t magically make mass civilian slaughter lawful.

This. Again, and again, and again!!

Just going to tactically ignore this then are we?

If it’s not about the hostages the only “justification” left is Hamas. Yet international law is clear: civilians, especially children, cannot be deliberately targeted to get at a military group. Starving, bombing, and flattening entire neighbourhoods (even farmland) to pressure/punish Hamas is illegal. Repeated, systematic attacks on civilians are war crimes- and possibly genocide. Targeting Hamas doesn’t magically make mass civilian slaughter lawful.

I don’t think that trying to destroy Hamas by flattening Gaza and killing tens of thousands of Palestinians, continuing to expand the settlements and not prevent killing of Palestinians in the WB by settlers, nor bombing Qatar reduces the risks towards Israel.

Hamas definitely needs to be sidelined and Palestinians need an alternative to negotiate a 2ss. There is no other alternative to longer term peace.

This is what Hamas agreed to with prior ceasefire talks:

c. "Day After" arrangements in Gaza, including:
– Immediate commencement of governance by an independent technocratic committee with full authority and responsibility.
– A long-term cessation (5 to 7 years) of mutual hostile military operations between the parties, guaranteed by the mediators (the United States, Egypt, and Qatar).

Wouldn’t this have given a viable alternative path to peace?

https://en.majalla.com/node/325875/documents-memoirs/full-text-witkoff’s-us-gaza-ceasefire-deal-plus-hamas-response

Aren’t the hostages lives and a potential of longer term peace not worth taking a chance on this proposal for a ceasefire? The US thought so.

Its not me that ignoring things. You keep repeating that Netayahu is to blame for rejecting ceasefires, as if Hamas was being reasonable. You can't just ignore the fact that Israel will not, and should not be expected to, allow Hamas to remain armed and functioning.

What do you think of the response of Hamas to prior ceasefire proposals?

5-7 years of peace before Hamas can do another 7/10? No thanks.

Yes very much an implication that Hamas are being the more reasonable ones here.

Hamas apologists do not use valid arguments. They are a proscribed terrorist organisation in the UK.

Perhaps Israeli government will be more on the ball about preventing a future 7/10, and the new Palestinian governance can also assist in prevent further attack.

Perhaps the new Palestinian government will not allow the millions of dollars to be transferred to Hamas as the Knesset allowed?

No it's not Israel's fault that 7/10 happened and I find it a disgusting suggestion that it was their fault in some ways for not being "on the ball" enough to stop their citizens being murdered and raped.

Would you say that about anyone else getting attacked? That they should have been more "on the ball" to prevent it.

Hamas was culpable for the deaths- but 7/10 could have been prevented given the warnings Israel received. It will be interesting to see what Israel’s further look at this finds- when Netanyahu allows it.

There is going to be need for Israel to work alongside the new Palestinian government to prevent further terrorism. With independent oversight too- this will be required to prevent further attacks including the other points I mentioned above including ensuring Hamas don’t get funding.

It’s incredibly depressing thinking if this could have all been prevented @Twiglets1 given the suffering in both Israel and amongst Palestinians, and what has transpired in Gaza over the last 2 years but here is a timeline prior 7/10 from Israeli spy agency:
https://www.npr.org/2025/03/05/nx-s1-5318591/israel-shin-bet-security-failure-october-7-attack#:~:text=Daniel%20Estrin-,What%20went%20wrong?,7%20attack&text=TEL%20AVIV%2C%20Israel%20—%20Hamas%20code,consider%20it%20a%20realistic%20threat.

The only way forward is to have an alternative to Hamas and they themselves appear to have given a chance for that to be developed.

There is no "but" - Hamas was culpable for the deaths on 7/10.

Again, do you blame others who get attacked or only Israel?

I am trying to focus on how best to prevent a further attack. I guess that’s why the Israeli military and intelligence agencies also wanted to see what had gone wrong and how to prevent a further one. Netanyahu doesn’t want to look at political failings at present.

Its going to require an alternative governance structure to Hamas as well- which they are giving opportunity to develop.

The US and UK rightly explored failures that led to attacks on their land and how these could have been prevented.