Israeli flag flyers threatened with arrest after being attacked by Pro-Palestine mob.

[PickyBits]

This is just unbelievable. These ‘protesters’ are being given free rein to threaten and assault pro-Israelis (Jewish) because ‘there’s 500 of them and 2 of you’.

Police not interested in doing their job, which is upholding the law I thought?

Just sickening that this country has come to this.

https://x.com/habibi_uk/status/1937534677520134516

No I’m not joking to pp, I could Google but given the posters on here who will know it’s easy to answer.

@notimagaingiven what you say here why would Israel have kept funding them?

ETA Hamas we’re known to lob missiles, Israel puts up a dome to counter but keeps paying? Or was there a point where they stopped the latter

Because as much as Hamas don’t see the validity of Israel, many in Israel doesn’t see the validity in Palestine and view the Westbank as Greater Israel.

Funding Hamas was done to split the power in Palestine and the view was it would give Israel more control and lead to no one group gaining too much power. Ultimately the goal was to destabilise the areas.
Netanyahu has been quoted as saying those who oppose a Palestinian state should support the transfer of funds to Gaza because maintaining the separation between the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza would prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state.

No idea re the funding, claimed logic behind it, even if the claims are true.

What I do know is that I used to fly into Tel Aviv occasionally, (airline, not mil) it was one place we'd get a thorough security situation brief prior to departing the Uk because of the perceived threat of attack and given Tel Aviv airport's (Ben Gurion) proximity to Gaza it was quite common carry lots of extra fuel for lots of diversion option, especially if it was rocket season....only place in the world I went to over the years where that was a consideration.

If you overnighted there you paid special attention to where the shelters in/near the hotel were situated (and over the years a few crews found themselves using the shelters)

....all the above was well pre Oct 7......

Ok thanks for answers. I read them as saying Israel paid a group who was lobbing missiles which they stopped with a dome. If they knew it was them then seems strange.

It's not strange.

The rockets lobbed are very little risk for most Israelis and stopped by the dome. Deaths are v rare.

But by funding Hamas, Israeli makes the formation of a formal Palestinian state less likely - which is what they are after. Don't forget that Likud and Netenyahu are totally against a 2 state solution, have encouraged settlers for decades etc.

It's immoral, but there's a horrible twisted logic in it. What they didn't expect was Hamas to do was plan something like 7/10. Even though they'd been warned. Though they obviously had plans in place if it did, which they've had an excuse to use now, and destroy what's left of Gaza. That doesn't excuse Hamas and their actions, but shame on the Israeli government also.

I don’t think it is disputed. With Hamas in power there would never be a Palestinian state. But it was playing with fire.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/amp/

The PP you were replying to was talking about loyalist terrorists in NI further to the discussion of the union flag.

So not the IRA.

True. The Irish tricolour and the union flag have both been used to rally in the North. This is also how the palestinian flag is being used in many places, and specifically has been used to intimidate Jewish communities and students.

I favour the Danish model for mainland UK, it would not be appropriate for Northern Ireland.
....Anna Wilson, a financial services analyst from Scotland now living in Aalborg, also supports the banning of national flags: “I’ve grown up to associate flag-flying with negativity and even fear. Glasgow, where I come from, has a lot of historic divisions along religious lines and flags can often symbolise bigotry and fascism. When I moved to Denmark I was surprised by how differently flags are viewed. It’s about welcoming and celebrating people rather than oppressing them. And it’s about connection with Denmark’s closest neighbours. For me, it makes sense to limit what flags can be flown. It celebrates tradition and connection while minimising conflict.”

Thanks for this. I found it answered the question well.

The funding was playing with fire as you say, but this also stood out. There were attempts to bring calm. Contradictory perhaps. These I assume will stop after Oct 7th.

Israeli officials said these permits, which allow Gazan laborers to earn higher salaries than they would in the enclave, were a powerful tool to help preserve calm.

Toward the end of Netanyahu’s fifth government in 2021, approximately 2,000-3,000 work permits were issued to Gazans. This number climbed to 5,000 and, during the Bennett-Lapid government, rose sharply to 10,000.

(Your post to a previous poster)

If you are referring to the mosque attack in Hebron in 1994 that was a mass shooting, not a suicide bomber, and the killer was overpowered by survivors and beaten to death with iron bars. Hamas carried out several suicide bombings in 1993:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_suicide_attacks
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/february/25/newsid_4167000/4167929.stm

You clearly aren’t seeing the nuance from Israeli supporters on Mumsnet! There are a small handful of very vocal supporters who have no nuance whatsoever. They simply accuse people of anti-semitism regardless of how well-considered and well-balanced their comments and on the whole, those who write in support of Palestine and who criticise the Israeli government’s actions in this site have given comments which are both if these things.