Gary Lineker - he really had to go and a warning t against virtue signalling

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Maybe Gary Lineker's departure acts as a warning for this not acquainted with history to go around randomly reposting pro Palestinian links though I suspect he is not the only one. In a way it is a sad demise to a career but an absolutely necessary one and a timely warning that a proportion of P Palestinian supporters are anti semites.

for to say I didn't like the Gaurdian 's take that the BBC were looking to sack Gary anyway and he just have them an excuse.

They won’t agree to a temporary ceasefire that means Isreal can go back to decimating them in 60 days, which is understandable. Isreal needs to offer a permanent solution that offers genuine freedom for Palestinians. Until then, why would they agree to surrender?

60 days of negotiations should at least bring a longer ceasefire, if not a permanent one. Israel will not continue to fight if Hamas have agreed to stop killing Jews.
The current status means Israel will keep going locations and killing Hamas.
Why should Israel stop when their enemy will not negotiate, will not hand over the hostages, will not stop trying to kill Jews? Israel’s first priority is the safety of their people.
It’s obvious Hamas does not have the same priorities.

Yes but you said you hadn’t spoken to anyone who supports the Gazans and then describe your “few Jewish friends” who are all the other people who don’t support the Gazans and what part of the world are you from? Do you not get any unfiltered news at all?

But Israel has killed many many more Palestinians than vice versa. Do you think Israelis are fanatics too?

So they think he's gone too far but they also think the Gazans brought it on themselves? You have changed your tune now after not a single person believed you.

They'd be crazy to trust that Netanyahu meant well - he's a fanatic. If he could keep his finger off the trigger for 30 days I'd be surprised. He's a piece of shit.

Quite right. Netanyahu had gone too far, and they brought it on themselves in any case.
There is no tune changing.
Israel wouldn’t have attacked if it weren’t for Oct 7th. Never forget that.

@HellsBalls Brought it on themselves.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/30/world/middleeast/gaza-children-hunger.html

Do you honestly look at these pictures and think these kids deserve their suffering? Are you a parent ?

I seem to remember having this conversation in November 23 about child hostages with people on here, when people were ripping down posters of the bibas children. They were somewhat partisan, the female hostages were all soldiers apparently.

If hamas returned the rest of the hostages and disarmed, there'd be more pressure within and without Israel to ceasefire and remove netanyahu from power.

Well that is awful if somebody said the hostages deserved it. They clearly didn’t. And the people of Gaza don’t deserve this either. We all have a collective responsibility towards children as well, they are always innocent and should be protected.

What Hamas did was horrific but what does it say about Israel that they have sunk to same level of depravity?

Did the thousands of dead Palestinian children bring it on themselves?

You know what I'm a fantasy world where Hamas had a nuclear weapon who can put their hands up and say they wouldn't hesitate for a second before dropping it on Tel Aviv? If Hamas were given the aircraft the Israelis has they wouldn't carpet Bonn Israeli towns? If the IDF didn't exist October 7th wouldn't have stopped at 1200 or even 120000.

Hamas literally exist to pursue a policy of the destruction of Israel and the eradication of Jews. It is genocide in a manifesto.

I can fully understand how Israel's security depends on the removal of Hamas and therefore support those goals.

But that is theoretical and won't ever happen. Whereas what Israel is doing is LITERALLY wiping out Palestine and the Palestinian people.

I also don't support the settlers or the new settlements.

Nevertheless, I do still support Israel overall. They were the ones attacked on October 7th and this triggered the current war.

@Prettyroses yes I do support Israel's current military action as I believe they have to destroy Hamas and if they don't do it now, Hamas will attack them again and again. It is their goal to destroy Israel as stated in their charter, “Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.”

So yes, I do support them over Hamas though I don't support everything Israel has done in this war, such as withdrawing aid as mentioned above.

You just don't support the withdrawal of aid but you support military actions that is killing thousands of Palestinians children as long as they have had a bite to eat before they do. Got it.

Israel has the strongest military in the region. The idea that they absolutely must bomb every single building in Gaza, curtail people into a smaller areas using aid as leverage, kill tens of thousands and reoccupy the land all “for security” is mind blowing to me and pretty much everyone else at this point.

What do posters who support Israeli actions think of the latest statement by France and Germany? Or even the US keen for this to stop. Are you not a little worried that Israel stands alone in justifying what is happening? Does that not raise any questions at all in your head about their actions? Or is your faith in the Israeli government unshaken?

And you feel passionately about the killing of Palestinian children but don't care about the Hamas intention to obliterate Israel. Got it.

Why don't you care about the Israeli children that Hamas have killed and will continue to kill until they are all obliterated if they get the chance?

You can't destroy terrorism by force - you just create more terrorists (Thatcher discovered this in the 70's, which were a recruiting bonanza for the IRA). People left with nothing make extreme choices. Israel's actions are creating more hate - Israel will never be safe whilst they continue to treat non-Jewish human beings' lives as disposable.

Speaking for myself, I do not have an unshaken faith in the Israeli government. I have many concerns about how they have conducted themselves in this war which do largely mirror the concerns now being voiced by other more moderate governments.

That doesn't take away from my fundamental belief that Israel had a right to retaliate after October 7th and that while they didn't start this war, now they are in the middle of it they need to destroy Hamas once and for all.

He is an overpaid, smug pain in the neck with a huge ego. Who cares what he thinks about political issues.

I think the moral of the story is do not share instagram posts unless you check them thoroughly and fully understand the sentiment. I would like to think he didn’t purposely do it but we will never know.

Hamas literally exist to pursue a policy of the destruction of Israel and the eradication of Jews. It is genocide in a manifesto.

Ans Isreal’s literal existence meant death and destruction of Palestine and the forced displacement of Palestinians.

Its really not that hard to understand why indigenous people would want to remove the colonial force that invaded them, killed their people and continues to steal, control and bomb what is left of their homeland.

Its really not that hard to understand why indigenous people would want to remove the colonial force that invaded them, killed their people and continues to steal, control and bomb what is left of their homeland. And once you see that, you also see that whilst Palestine and Palestinians exist - Israel will have no peace. Genocide seems to be the only answer, and Israel is pursuing it - and the world is standing by allowing it to happen, history will judge us all. Wonder why we allowed our fear of being called anti-semetic to help prevent Genocide taking place.

And there we have it. The Palestinians don't want Israel to exist and will not seek co existence with the current territorial bounds. Solutions anyone?

Israel is not going to concede territory in the West Bank and perhaps Gaza so we seem to have the conditions for a permanent conflict with a new October 7th or Israeli crackdown on terrorists always found the corner.....

Yes, and it’s Isreal who are the aggressors because since its creation it has not sought peaceful co existence. It has sought overriding power and control of all Palestinian land and treated the people as sub human.

The solution is for Isreal to recognise Palestines right to exist in peace and have sovereignty over its own land. Without it, Isreal will remain under threat permanently.