This is the reality of what Israel is doing (part 6)

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/08/idf-has-long-history-of-denying-involvement-in-civilian-killings

The utterly heartbreaking thing about starting these threads is how simple it is to find the opening link.

When will they stop?

@Igotjelly I know from your posts that you are quite measured in your view of the conflict so it speaks alot when even posters like yourself can say that it is a genocide now and can not be supported in anyway.

Only Trump can stop it now imo, Trump & Hamas

It's quite an achievement that Netanyahu can make the clown in the white House look slightly empathetic. Even most Israelis have lost hope in him now. I think he's actually lost his mind and no one around him can make him see any sense of how dangerous his actions are for Israel in the public sphere.

Trump's involvement will not be helpful to anyone but himself.

As reported in the Guardian:

US president Donald Trump said on Thursday he wanted the US to “take” Gaza and turn it into a “freedom zone”, a possible reiteration of a plan he put forward in February for the US to take control of the Palestinian territory to allow for its reconstruction as a luxury leisure and business hub. “I’d be proud to have the United States have it, take it, make it a freedom zone,” Trump said in Qatar.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/may/15/israel-gaza-donald-trump-gulf-qatar-uae-iran-middle-east-crisis-live

At the least he acknowledged that the Palestinians are starving, something which the Israeli government can't seem to do, despite them being the ones who are enforcing the starvation by blocking aid and imposing a seige.

I sure that will be a lot of comfort if he does indeed take control of Gaza, "have it, take it, make it a freedom zone”

They can’t acknowledge it because to acknowledge it is to confess to using starvation as a weapon.

I despise Trump and I'm sure most people on here know that, my point is that when someone as pro-Israel as Trump can even acknowledge this, then where does that leave Israeli leaders? Do they seriously think that people believe them when they still insist to the media that there isn't any starvation in Gaza?

Yes true.

The BBC have a live feed running right now with testimonies from survivors of last nights slaughter. People watched entire residential buildings being flattened with friends and families killed from the weight of the rubble

"A man from Khan Younis in southern Gaza tells us that his pregnant sister was killed in her home, as we continue to hear from people impacted by the latest Israeli attacks - which the Hamas-run civil defence agency says have killed almost 100 people.
The unnamed man tells BBC Arabic that Israel "bombed the house while my sister and her husband were inside,” adding that his sister was “five months pregnant".
"There seems to be no solution to our crisis," he says. "We're all just waiting for our turn to die."

I don't think anyone seriously believes there is no starvation in Gaza, no.

I just don't think Trump's involvement is likely to help the crisis as people like @wavingfuriously seem to be suggesting.

It's incredibly sad. I read that 6 entire families were killed in the past 24hrs, homes full of children bombed, roads destroyed to prevent access by rescuers. Unfortunately I believe that poor man is mostly correct at this point. Israel haven't been shy about their plans for them.

well who else is there that can potentially help the gazans ?! they're all alone, it's terrible

This needs to be remembered for ever, children will need to be taught about it in school. Not just about the horror Israel has subjected the Palestinians to, but also about how so many Countries were complicit in the Genocide and ethnic cleansing.

from BBC Live :

‘We don’t have the energy to survive another displacement’
published at 12:53
12:53

Alice Cuddy
Reporting from Jerusalem

Adham speaks to the camera:
Earlier this year, we spoke to people returning to their homes in northern Gaza during the ceasefire. Among them was 31-year-old graphic designer Adham al-Batrawi.

He went back to the once affluent city of al-Zahra and was living in and around the remains of his family’s villa, lighting fires to cook and keep warm.

“I was excited to return but then I saw the house - half of it was destroyed. I got sad,” he said at the time.

The family hoped to rebuild, but once the ceasefire ended, it became too dangerous to stay, so they fled again.

“This was the seventh time of being evacuated. Maybe even more. I’ve lost count,” he tells me by video message from a displacement camp in central Gaza.

“With each displacement life becomes more tragic than before. We really hope it will be soon because we simply don’t have the energy left to survive another displacement.”

Today, he says life is “very difficult” – there’s “no fuel, no food and no income, and if anything is available it is extremely expensive”.

Another 100 killed. Trump must have given the permission even if tacitly.

what?!

He’s a raging racist and those dying aren’t the types of people he gives a shit about. It doesn’t surprise me he’s turning a blind eye to their suffering.

With friends like Trump who needs enemies?

It’s true they seem alone though. A massive miscalculation on the part of Hamas.

I meant Trump is the only one with any sway over netanyahu!

I don't know if he completely does. Netanyahu has come out all guns blazing vowing death and destruction and he is certainly following it through. He doesn't care about anybody because he has been backed into a corner. Also I actually believe he is intelligent enough to know he is facing war crime trials and that he may as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb.

But I do agree with you that Trump is where the money is without it can Israel sustain the level of destruction and bombing it has. Especially if Trump is eyeing up rebuilding Gaza for his casinos he will want to save the pennies.

On Channel 4 right now an Israeli reporter from Haaretz, Gideon Levy, says most Israelis only know about the hostages in Gaza and the danger they are in. They don’t see, or know about, or care about what is happening to Palestinians there, and Israeli news outlets support them in this state of not knowing.

I do struggle with this personally. The same argument is made about Russians and Ukraine and the response is that the information is there if only a person is willing to seek it out. So far as I’m aware the internet etc isn’t restricted in Israel so there’s nothing stopping Israelis from seeing the truth.

I agree there is no excuse for anyone not to be aware of the reality of the situation.. especially when we read of Israelis actively trying to view the destruction through boat trips and viewing points.
Plus with conscription I imagine there are very few families without members on active duty.

Well OK there will be censorship, but the Internet exists so very few states in the world can truly hide world events / except maybe North Korea (and then only to a certain extent). The key part of what Gideon Levy said (for me anyway) was "care about" he was saying they don't want to know. It doesn't suit them to acknowledge their Government are commiting a genocide.