Can Hamas remain in charge?

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So we have a ceasefire but will it last with Hamas remaining in charge of Gaza? There may be attempts for more moderate governance such as the. PA to take over but will they succeed?

The problem with Hamas still existing as a governing power is that Gaza may not attract international. investment for reconstruction and surely that is required for the Palestinian people to live reasonable lives?

More worryingly is that Hamas still has a great deal of support in Gaza and I think the media has glossed over the Palestinians who still feel the war needs to continue and Hamas represent some kind of righteous cause (which is bizarre). The media have had plenty of quotes from Palestinains wanting peace but for balance I think there should be acknowledgment there will be many who wish revenge on Israel and there is still the latent possibility of another October 7th st some point. As Blinken pointed out there are more Hamas fighters now than at the start and this does indicate there is a section of Paelstinain society who at heart out their hatred of Israelis above a lasting prosperous peace.

Maybe "the reasonable posters" ( care to elaborate on this?) can't defend the indefensible. That's why they stay silent and resort to accusing the ones who bring up the appalling treatment of Palestinians in the WB at the hands of state sponsored extremists of being pro Hamas.
By the way, Palestinians are not Hamas. Don't conflate the two.

It looks like Qatar is backing the Palestinian Authority to run Gaza now.

Yes Blinken made the same reference in his recent remarks to the Atlantic council.

I'm referring to the Gaza Strip and the Israeli occupied West Bank, otherwise internationally known as The State of Palestine, to say its meaningless to call it Palestinian land is bizarre, as that's exactly what it is

Are you referring to 'Palestinian' in terms of geography, ethnic identity, political state?

Ah, OK - thanks for clarifying. So you're referring to territory earmarked for the envisioned Palestinian state.

It would be clearer to call it 'Palestinian territory' in that case.

Calling it 'Palestinian Land' implies land ownership by citizens of that state. Which is actually different from being a territory run by a state. The UK has land owned by non-UK citizens, and likewise some land in the West Bank is owned privately by Israelis.

It's also redolent of suggestions that Israel is built on 'Palestinian land' (with all the lack of clarity about 'Palestinian' of that rallying cry)

You know you are completely going against what Palestine and the UN think, right??!!

The West Bank is occupied, by it is not occupied Palestinian land. Israel are the legal occupiers of the land and have been since Oslo in the 90s. The UN recognise this also.

The original PLO Charter also said they had no claim on the West Bank.

In fact in the Accords, the Palestinians approved Area C having Israel's full control and recognised it as Israeli.

Do you know something we don't all know?

I'm sure you can appreciate accurate history and facts matter here as there have been some accusations that many pro-Palestinians have just jumped on an anti-Israeli band wagon regurgitating Hamas propaganda like sheep.

Israel and other UN Member States must immediately comply with the authoritative determination by the International Court of Justice (ICJ) on Israel’s presence in the occupied Palestinian territory.

The landmark ruling of 19 July 2024 declared that Israel’s occupation of the Gaza strip and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, is unlawful, along with the associated settlement regime, annexation and use of natural resources. The Court added that Israel's legislation and measures violate the international prohibition on racial segregation and apartheid. The ICJ mandated Israel to end its occupation, dismantle its settlements, provide full reparations to Palestinian victims and facilitate the return of displaced people.

Wrong again.

Mandated by whom??
The ICJ was not a legally binding judgment, but a board of opinions.

Opinions which clearly stated Israel withdrew from Gaza. They didn't express a view as to the legal status of the Gaza Strip.

I mean my post is literally copied and pasted from the UN human rights website but I'm sure you know better than them.

I can guarantee you I have read the ruling in far more detail than you have and you are incorrect.

In its Wall Advisory opinion, "The court did not express a view as to the legal status of the Gaza Strip."
Quoted directly from the ICJ.

As I'm sure @SharonEllis and @Auvergne63 in particular can attest, with all this recent palaver about having verified and credible information for every little thing, I would have thought part of that would include using the original source.

Israel is not mandated to do anything by this report or are you going to disagree with that as well?

If you don't find the UNHR to be verified and credible then that's on you. As evidenced by your past behaviour towards me you will believe what you want to and throw out insults at those who disagree with you, my energy for that is severely limited I'm afraid. I'm not about that life ✌️

You are trying to argue that a brief summary done written by goodness knows is more reliable than the original document.

Believing that is incorrect. And not what I would call an insult so I stand by it.

Who's land is it if not Palestinian? Are you saying there are no illegal israeli settlements in the West Bank? Do YOU know something we don't all know?

The West Bank is now under attack.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-01-23/ty-article/.premium/in-israel-they-want-us-to-become-jabalya-hundreds-evacuate-jenin-homes-as-idf-invades/00000194-9040-d5db-a7f5-b06c1e480000

Did you even read my post?

What is it with this forum and making things up and accusing posters of saying things they didn't? It is very tiresome. I never mentioned Israeli settlers.

If you actually read my post, you will plainly see me pointing out you were wrong in saying it is Palestinian land when even Palestine have said it is not.

@Spunkycritic Did you read mine as you havent answered my question, if the West Bank is not Palestinian land who's land is it? Under International Law the Israelis are illegally occupying it, that's not me making anything up, that's a fact

It's never ending

Whatever I say about the different Areas of the West Bank you won't believe anyway.

Facts seem to be your nemesis.
But fine, Palestine said it isn't their land, the PLO said it isn't their land, the UN agree, but you know better. Congrats.

if the West Bank is not Palestinian land who's land is it?

I think who owns it is a bit of red herring tbh. It is who has civil administration over it that's key really. Jordan claimed the territory until Oslo Accords. Israel's military occupation is considered illegal under international law. I guess no one actually "owns" it but Palestine has power of authority over it.

And you still haven't answered my question, you're free to believe whatever you want but i think I'll stick to my belief in International Law thanks

To answer OP, would you want this lot in charge "Senior Hamas leader Khalil al-Hayya praised the October 7 massacre as a major achievement that would be taught to future generations of Palestinians with pride, while touting the ceasefire-hostage deal that was announced shortly before he spoke Wednesday as a “historic moment.”

If they stay in charge things won't improve.

Does anyone actually still think that a 2SS is possible?

I just don't see any way forward.