Last functioning hospital in Northern Gaza is stormed by the IDF

[Whatsinanamehey]

If it wasn't already clear that Israel is carrying out ethnic cleansing in the north of Gaza, then this is the final straw.

IDF soldiers have posted countless videos mocking at the destruction they have caused in the north. The north of Gaza has suffered massacre after massacre at the hands of Israel and after repeatedly targeting the Kamal Adwan hospital, they have now forced them to evacuate after bombing and killing several medics.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx26v70n5z4o.amp

And we still don't have a definition of 'entire territory'.

This thread was about the destruction of the last remaining hospital in Northern Gaza. It’s all over now complete with a video to justify it.

This is a brave effort in the hope of rebuilding one of the smaller hospitals there used to be there:

Gaza Cola launched by Palestinian activist to rebuild destroyed hospital
Sales of fizzy drink from London hoped to raise money and send a message to big firms ‘investing in armed trade’

Gaza’s healthcare is on the brink of “total collapse”, according to the UN, because of the targeting of hospitals by Israel. While it is still impossible to say how much time and money it will take to rebuild, one Palestinian activist has plans to piece one small part of it back with the help of a soft drink.

Osama Qashoo, the creator of Gaza Cola, hopes to use profits from his Coca-Cola alternative, recently launched in London, to rebuild al Karama hospital, which used to stand in northern Gaza. “It’s been reduced to rubble for no just reason, like all of these hospitals in Gaza,” according to the 43-year-old film-maker, human rights advocate and, now, fizzy-drink maker.…….

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/08/gaza-cola-launched-by-palestinian-activist-to-rebuild-destroyed-hospital

Yes they were, according to the stories my family told me about the German occupation. They were witnesses to it.
It is also a known and recorded fact that some soldiers, who took part in the liberation of France, raped local women.
And yes, Gaza must be hell on earth.

Surely everybody knows that rape is a routine weapon of war? Anywhere you get men in positions of power over vulnerable women some of them will rape. This is especially true where normal society breaks down, so also in situations like humanitarian crises where male aid workers exploit vulnerable women.

Sadly this is true of many conflicts, social breakdown and even with aid workers who supposedly are there to 'help' as in Haiti a few years ago. Women and girls are targeted. Awful.

Whist it’s true it doesn’t mean we can’t critisice Israel and Hamas for doing so(also, Israel has been sexually abusing those in their prisons for a while. It’s not something new).

Where did I say rapists shouldn't be criticised? Rapists should always be condemned and brought to justice. These men are vile.

It was occupying Gaza. Some choose to pretend the blockade doesn't exist but sadly it does.

The point it that Israel's occupation leads to this kind of dysfunction. If Palestine had autonomy things would be different.

Root cause. Root.

If Palestine wasn't occupied you might not have terrorists running the place.

The article by Gideon Levy (from a poster on another thread) shows how this can be the case even though the Israelis were outside Gaza in the literal sense.
https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/israeli-journalist-gideon-levy-on-the-killing-of-gaza

This below is just one paragraph from the question and answer format of this informative article.
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Sharon came to the very clever conclusion that it’s for the convenience of Israel to pull out and to change the method of the prison. There are many prisons in the world in which the guards are inside the prison, and there are other prisons in which the guards choose to be outside the prison. Israel changed the method of guarding this prison, but didn’t change the prison itself because from day one, Gaza was under siege. The fact that Palestinians chose Hamas in democratic elections does not give Israel the right to put a piece of land under a total siege from the sea, the air, and obviously territorially. Not that the Palestinians didn’t make mistakes, or they couldn’t have chosen a different path. I don’t say that, but you cannot expect them to behave exactly according to the Israeli expectations. Because they came to this situation from many years of oppression and suffering. You don't change one day and become Dubai.

Somehow that did not work out but it is obviously in the article.

It worked for me. Be prepared for backlash, lol.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/israeli-court-orders-release-detained-gaza-doctor-who-was-tortured?nid=416722&topic=Israel%2527s%2520war%2520on%2520Gaza&fid=541436

"The point it that Israel's occupation leads to this kind of dysfunction. If Palestine had autonomy things would be different."

Some People are always so keen to blame israel and Jews for the issues in Gaza. In fact Hamas were extremely well funded and had autonomy but instead of developing Gaza for the benefit of its people they focused entirely on their hate of Jews. They even dug up water pipes to use as rockets then blamed israel for having no water.

There's no evidence at all that Gaza would be any different if it had even more autonomy. We can see many of the surrounding countries have similar problems such as Lebanon and Syria who have their own Iran sponsored Islamist terrorist groups. Sadly many of these so called Palestinian advocates are harming the people they purport to be helping. The best thing Palestinian groups could do would be to accept the existence of Israel and stop the violence. But sadly too many external forces don't want to see that.

In fact Hamas were extremely well funded
Yep. Netanyahu was one of them as well as Iran.

So why didn't they do sething more constructive with the money?

Their love of their people was trumped by the hatred of Jews

What do you think of Netanyahu funding a terrorist organisation? How Hamas used the money is, of course, wrong on so many levels but the fact remains Netanyahu deliberately gave money to the terrorists, who went on to commit the 07/10 atrocities.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-20/ty-article-opinion/.premium/a-brief-history-of-the-netanyahu-hamas-alliance/0000018b-47d9-d242-abef-57ff1be90000

Surely it's common sense that not living under a brutal occupation is a good starting point for any country anywhere on earth.

@Lalaloveya that doesn't explain half the points that @user243245346 made does it? The complete non acceptance of Israel or Jews whatsoever? The constant rockets?
Misappropriation of funds? Lack of any surrounding Arab countries intervening in any meaningful way?

They were quoting me and I think I'm allowed respond however I see fit, thanks.

The IDF doing the same things they accuse Hamas of. Openly breaking international humanatarian law. Using a marked ambulance to travel in and murdering a 80 year old Palestinian woman on the spot.

https://news.sky.com/story/idf-admits-serious-offence-after-using-vehicle-marked-ambulance-in-raid-in-which-a-grandmother-was-killed-13288120

In fact Hamas were extremely well funded and had autonomy but instead of developing Gaza for the benefit of its people they focused entirely on their hate of Jews. They even dug up water pipes to use as rockets then blamed israel for having no water.

Rubbish. Hamas had as much autonomy as any organised criminal gang. How could they have “developed” Gaza when it had been under air, sea and land blockade since before Hamas took de facto control of the inside of Gaza? Israel controls everything and everyone that goes in and out of Gaza. Including water, and Israel has heavily restricted the water supply to Gaza. The water pipes to rockets story is Hamas propaganda. Weapons experts agree that you can’t make the rockets that Hamas fired out of water pipes, and the story that they have put about is propaganda to mask the fact that their rockets are smuggled in from outside the strip. The most you can make is an IED, a pipe bomb.

There's no evidence at all that Gaza would be any different if it had even more autonomy.

Only the evidence of every other country in history that has won its independence…

The World Health Organization (WHO) has assessed that at least $10bn will be needed to rebuild Gaza’s devastated health system over the next five to seven years.
“In Gaza, we all know the destruction is so massive. I have never seen that anywhere else in my life,” WHO representative in the Palestinian territories, Rik Peeperkorn, told reporters.
Meanwhile, the UN health agency urged the international community to step up and fund a scaled-up aid response in Gaza after Wednesday’s announcement that Israel and Hamas had reached a ceasefire agreement.
Part of the ceasefire deal – which has not been formally agreed – requires 600 truckloads of humanitarian aid to be allowed into Gaza every day.
“The UN cannot deliver the response alone,” Peeperkorn said. He said the WHO was ready to deliver, although the “significant security and political obstacles to delivering aid across Gaza” need to be removed.
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The last sentence is not convincing.
Not every country that gains independence has a good outcome for its citizens. Sadly