Finally an icc arrest warrant for netanyahu is issued.

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Discussing this with friends
I'm quite appauled that it took the death of 50000 civilians (mostly children) before a warrant was issued.

When will the arrest warrant for tony Blair be issued???

A friend said that this is war and to get over it. Aibu in thinking the arrest was correct?

I know families wiped out. And refugee camps set on fire. I mean it has been going on for over the last 75 years.
I'm so glad that Warner brothers are going to release a movie about the nakba.
Found it really sick that netflix deleted their movie of the Palestinian who saw all her family die before her eyes and her house get occupied.

I think the coverage of the Christian palestians has been utterly shambolic.

The orthodox Jews have separated themselves from netanyahu and say what he is doing is wrong.

All news outlets in Palestine removed by Israel.
Israel has controlled their water supply amongst other things for years.

Another friend said "what if the European pagans just came to UK and said that this is their land and they want it back and then they remove all of us to Devon and then try and take Devon"

Yes it's crazy that it's taken so long but the US keeps vetoing the ceasefire so make it make sense
Also your friends are wrong- it's not a war when one side has sophisticated US weaponry and the other side are barefoot refugees and starving babies
Biden et al need to be arrested pronto too
Shame on the West for what it has done to the Palestinians

Didn’t they issue a warrant for Putin? It’s just a platitude and won’t achieve anything.

The israel Palestine conflict is far from black and white. Hamas knew how Israel would retaliate hence the attack last October. Hamas wanted this because they have no value for life. Even their own.

That’s a very selective thread title. A warrant has also been issued for Mohammed Dief.

It means absolutely nothing.

Hamas should have absolutely considered the consequences for the civilian population before they started this war. The moral: Don't poke a dog in the eye, if you don't want to get bitten.
Yes, Israel has overstepped the mark. They've clearly made their point to Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, et al, and they should probably stop now, but would the initial aggressors take that as a formal warning and refrain from any future incursions, or would they view it as a sign of weakness on the part of the Zionist state?
What would you do if you were surrounded by hostiles who just wanted your extinction?

It will come to nothing

genocidal manic

Worryingly it changes nothing but will give some people comfort that they can say later that they condemned his behaviour at the time and said he was wrong. I find it bizarre that we do the same thing in Ukraine and the government donate enough money to allow them to defend themselves a bit whilst we all condemn Putin’s behaviour from afar but stop short of actually giving enough to give Ukraine a fighting chance of ending it or stopping him. It’s like we are fuelling the game to make it keep going a little longer without actually stepping in and stopping things when the fight is unfair.

Unfortunately I agree with this.

The pictures of David Lammy cosying up to this murderer make me feel sick.

Blame Hamas no one else . They think very little of their citizens before starting this war .
I can understand Israel wanting it over and done with forever .

The fact is that the United States and the United Kingdom have been killing people in Asia for decades now. Over a century really. They are very experienced at it, it's something they're very good at and it's something they enjoy doing.

And when they're not doing it directly themselves, they're giving military, financial, political and moral support to enable their proxy in the region, Israel, to do it on their behalf.

So of course, the UK and the US will give their full backing to this corrupt, racist psychopath Netanyahu. Killing brown people on an industrial scale is no biggie to them.

I don’t recall Jewish people in the Holocaust having a terrorist group as their government and raping and killing members of the SS and their family.

FYI, comparing anything to the Holocaust is antisemitic. Please us another analogy

This in a nutshell

So many uninformed about why Israel was formed and the continued violent threat since literally day 1.

What would “over and done with”. look like? All Palestinians dead?

It's an empty gesture. The ICC has no enforcement mechanism and the most powerful countries in the world, including the US, Russia, China, Israel and almost all of the Middle East, do not recognize ICC authority. But I'm sure some bureaucrats in the Hague are feeling great about their virtue signaling, so there's that.

People can be well aware of the history of Israel and Palestine, and horrified by the huge toll this event is having on civilians.

Of course but it’s unless you look at Israel as a whole picture and see why they are so stubborn in their defence of their country, you’ll never understand why

Hamas are responsible for their actions.

Israel are responsible for theirs.

There can be no winners in this war, only losers.

I hear you.

Sadly it seems neither Hamas nor Netenyahu are looking for a two state solution - IMO the only real solution to this mess that won’t result in ethnic cleansing either way - and are now manical in their refusal to back down. I don’t know what it will take or when it will end. But it won’t be ending soon that’s for sure

The ICC arrest warrants are long overdue but better late than never.
Tbh, I think it's incredibly arrogant of Israeli leaders to believe they can do what the hell the want (including ethnic cleansing, amongst other war crimes) without any consequences or legal implications on the international stage. The strongest response they could offer to yesterday's news from the ICC was to call the court's decision "anti-semitic". It's shameful how they always go straight to this ridiculous and totally baseless slur whenever their actions are challenged/condemned. It's an insult to those of us who have lost loved ones who were REAL victims of REAL antisemitism. Netanyahu deserves to rot in a prison cell.

Dogs usually get put down when they bite, so that's not a great analogy.

So it's all about whether Israel is seen as weak? As in 'my dick is bigger than yours' bullshit.

What you're talking about is a total solution... because if you leave any survivors, they'll be pretty bitter don't you think? No, the people who Israel have orphaned, widowed, murdered, raped, displaced... will not just get over it. Israel has laid a foundation here for generations to come.

As for your last question, why don't you ask the Palestinians.

Please provide your reference for ‘Orthodox Jews have seperated themselves from Netanyahu? ‘

clearly shows your lack of understanding of Israel and the Jewish population at a whole.

there is an extreme fringe group of ultra orthodox Jews who are a tiny % of the Jewish population.

95% of Jews in the UK identify as Zionists. Being a Zionist does not mean you agree with all political actions of a state or leader, however fundamentally we believe in the right of Israel to exist (contrary to the ideology of Hamas).

I do hope you’ve watched ‘we shall dance again’ because clearly you need to widen your viewpoint and see how this war started.

Important to remember too, this didn't start on 7th October. Israel had been carrying out atrocities against Palestinians since 1948. To blame Ha&^s for everything (as terrible as they are and as much as I dislike them), is very short-sighted. They didn't exist till 1987... How can all the Israeli atrocities pre-1987 be explained? If people start arriving on boats from other parts of the world, forcing the native population off the land, stealing homes, slaughtering people en masse, surely one might see how this is problematic?
Put simply, if someone forces their way into your house saying it's now theirs... Would you just accept this and walk away, leaving it to them? Of course not.
I'm Jewish and my "ancestral homeland" certainly isn't Israel. It's mainly Russia (according to my ancestry DNA test kit :))... It would be absolutely ludicrous for me to rock up in the Russia village of my distant ancestors, wreaking havoc and trying to lay claim to someone's home. This is the logic used by Israel to justify it's atrocities... Claiming that settlers are simply "returning home". There's a reason why DNA testing is so strongly frowned upon in Israel.