Finally an icc arrest warrant for netanyahu is issued.

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Discussing this with friends
I'm quite appauled that it took the death of 50000 civilians (mostly children) before a warrant was issued.

When will the arrest warrant for tony Blair be issued???

A friend said that this is war and to get over it. Aibu in thinking the arrest was correct?

I know families wiped out. And refugee camps set on fire. I mean it has been going on for over the last 75 years.
I'm so glad that Warner brothers are going to release a movie about the nakba.
Found it really sick that netflix deleted their movie of the Palestinian who saw all her family die before her eyes and her house get occupied.

I think the coverage of the Christian palestians has been utterly shambolic.

The orthodox Jews have separated themselves from netanyahu and say what he is doing is wrong.

All news outlets in Palestine removed by Israel.
Israel has controlled their water supply amongst other things for years.

Another friend said "what if the European pagans just came to UK and said that this is their land and they want it back and then they remove all of us to Devon and then try and take Devon"

You are right they don't. They support Palestinians, like I said polls consistantly show that.

I recommend reading Simon sebag Montefiore's history of Jerusalem. The long history of Israel provides an interesting perspective.

I keep hearing about the 'quiet majority'. But that's absolute bullshit. Nobody is being quiet about this. Even people who wouldn't usually voice their politics are speaking about this. I've not heard a single voice in support of Israel

I have. They are total BS 90% of the time. Almost always wrong and are used to frame the narrative by the people who commission them. They are totally discredited.

No, they are not. Here is the hard truth for you. Most people could not care less about it. Only the Metropolitan Liberal types, the dreadful MSM, and politically engaged Leftists whose idea of a good weekend is to drag themselves to any given march in London. Normal people (AKA the quiet majority) could not give a toss.

Well said 👏

Like the ADL Global 100?

Yes, of course, Rachels feelings on the matter are far more likely to be accurate than multiple polls from different organisations.

Or Gov UK?

I don't understand why people can't be 'pro-Israel' and care about the immense suffering of the Palestinians. It doesn't have to be one or the other.

I'm not sure if you know that you're wrong and this is just an untruthful agenda you are trying to push... or if you're completely deluded?

I've had the conversation with people from all ends of the political spectrum... and not a single one supported the Israeli campaign.

Agree

The fact @HelenHen thinks that Israel’s response to October 7th was “revenge”, rather than trying to get hostages returned and stop another October 7th happening, is very telling.
We might all live in a country led by wet wipes who would just shrug if terrorists kidnapped and raped people from a music festival, and have low expectations of leadership, but other places value their people far more.

Not as good as the Israeli government one, judging by some of the posts here.
https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/hasbara-a-long-running-strategy/

for all you fuckwits
A lovely example of when their logic, reasoning, or evidence is weak, people resort to insults.
Socrates had it spot on "When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser

I agree. To defend men who are accused of war crimes and crimes against humanity is beyond belief. I include the Hamas leader in this too.
It is repulsive.

Ah yes, nothing better for ensuring the hostages survive than manufacturing famine, destroying access to clean water, carpet bombing everywhere and destroying all the hospitals and killing healthcare workers so that none of them can get medical attention either.
Israel have had over a year to intelligently retrieve the hostages if that was their aim. The only only hostages returned have been via negotations. The rest Israeli government seems to have zero care for their wellbeing.
Let's not forget the 3 shot by the IDF too...hardly what I would call leadership or valuing their citizens.

Tell us why Israel was formed?

Tell us why the encubant Palestinians were forced off their land and out of their homes?

Tell us why Israel continues to steal land and homes from Palestinians?

Tell us why one group of people see it as completely legitimate to steal the homes of another.

Tell us why you think ethnic cleansing in the West Bank and genocide in Gaza are justifiable.

And Hamas have had a year to give them back and end the suffering of their own people, but they couldn’t give two shits about anything except wiping Jews off the face of the earth.

I feel those killed and taken hostage on Oct 7th were severely let down by their government. It should never have happened. It was a tragic and cruel assault on innocent people. But there are reports of the government being warned an attack was likely. of concerns at the border and of insufficient army presence in the areas affected. The response time was several hours. I do feel that Netanyahu and those with information failed to value their people enough to protect them sufficiently, and that is utterly heart breaking. Hopefully there will be independent investigations into why security failed, but I'm sure many people wonder about the leadership and care for people prior to the attack.

Seen as Israeli government confirmed that returning hostages would not stop the assault on Gaza, it's not hard to see why Hamas haven't returned them. The best interests for everyone involved would be negotiating a ceasefire. I agree Hamas don't give a shit but they're terrorists - I don't expect them to. Israel however also appears not to give a shit at all about the hostages which given they are citizens of their government is disgusting. Israel have had a year to find a solution or rescue the hostages and they aren't even trying anymore.

How's that leadership working out for ya?

You're not suggesting they've been successful at getting the hostages back, are you?

And time will tell if genocide successfully prevents future terrorism. Sadly I don't share your optimism on that one.