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Conflict in the Middle East

Finally an icc arrest warrant for netanyahu is issued.

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Hididi11 · 22/11/2024 05:13

Discussing this with friends
I'm quite appauled that it took the death of 50000 civilians (mostly children) before a warrant was issued.

When will the arrest warrant for tony Blair be issued???

A friend said that this is war and to get over it. Aibu in thinking the arrest was correct?

I know families wiped out. And refugee camps set on fire. I mean it has been going on for over the last 75 years.
I'm so glad that Warner brothers are going to release a movie about the nakba.
Found it really sick that netflix deleted their movie of the Palestinian who saw all her family die before her eyes and her house get occupied.

I think the coverage of the Christian palestians has been utterly shambolic.

The orthodox Jews have separated themselves from netanyahu and say what he is doing is wrong.

All news outlets in Palestine removed by Israel.
Israel has controlled their water supply amongst other things for years.

Another friend said "what if the European pagans just came to UK and said that this is their land and they want it back and then they remove all of us to Devon and then try and take Devon"

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SpeaksBeforeThinking · 22/11/2024 14:09

HelenHen · 22/11/2024 13:55

Dogs usually get put down when they bite, so that's not a great analogy.

So it's all about whether Israel is seen as weak? As in 'my dick is bigger than yours' bullshit.

What you're talking about is a total solution... because if you leave any survivors, they'll be pretty bitter don't you think? No, the people who Israel have orphaned, widowed, murdered, raped, displaced... will not just get over it. Israel has laid a foundation here for generations to come.

As for your last question, why don't you ask the Palestinians.

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, but it's quite clear to see where your sympathies lie.

Jennysi · 22/11/2024 14:09

How utterly telling that you have no comment on the warrant for the Hamas commander.

Any comment on Hamas killing their own starving people bf abuse they stole from aid trucks or are you okay with that?

VisitationRights · 22/11/2024 14:10

When the ICC turns a blind eye to the genocide of the Kurds by Erdogan, the genocide of the Uyghurs in China, ignores the political/religious mass murders in Iran and Yemen and Sudan, and then only issues arrest warrants against Israeli leaders and a dead hamass terrorist but ignore the live ones living in Turkey then they have lost any legitimacy.

Jennysi · 22/11/2024 14:11

VisitationRights · 22/11/2024 14:10

When the ICC turns a blind eye to the genocide of the Kurds by Erdogan, the genocide of the Uyghurs in China, ignores the political/religious mass murders in Iran and Yemen and Sudan, and then only issues arrest warrants against Israeli leaders and a dead hamass terrorist but ignore the live ones living in Turkey then they have lost any legitimacy.

Couldn’t agree more.

Jennysi · 22/11/2024 14:12

Sorry for my typo, I have a cracked phone screen.

HelenHen · 22/11/2024 14:14

Proudestmumofone1 · 22/11/2024 14:06

Please provide your reference for ‘Orthodox Jews have seperated themselves from Netanyahu? ‘

clearly shows your lack of understanding of Israel and the Jewish population at a whole.

there is an extreme fringe group of ultra orthodox Jews who are a tiny % of the Jewish population.

95% of Jews in the UK identify as Zionists. Being a Zionist does not mean you agree with all political actions of a state or leader, however fundamentally we believe in the right of Israel to exist (contrary to the ideology of Hamas).

I do hope you’ve watched ‘we shall dance again’ because clearly you need to widen your viewpoint and see how this war started.

This war did not start last October!!!

HelenHen · 22/11/2024 14:17

Jennysi · 22/11/2024 14:09

How utterly telling that you have no comment on the warrant for the Hamas commander.

Any comment on Hamas killing their own starving people bf abuse they stole from aid trucks or are you okay with that?

He's probably already dead. In any case he's not lording it around acting like anything other than a terrorist. The world accepts his warrant.

StrawberryWater · 22/11/2024 14:17

The Hamas commander has one too and rightly so considering he uses Palestinian civilians as meat shields and still has Israeli hostages.

VisitationRights · 22/11/2024 14:18

No, this didn’t start on October 7, since the first colonisation of the area in the 600s by the Arabian colonisers they have been trying to wipe out the Jewish population from Israel. But Israel lives. Am Yisrael Chai.

Sunflowersinwinter · 22/11/2024 14:22

It's about time they did, better late than never hey. Netanyahu thought he could carry on his war crimes and not be held accountable.

Liv999 · 22/11/2024 14:22

WrongWrongWrongAgain · 22/11/2024 13:38

Hamas are responsible for their actions.

Israel are responsible for theirs.

There can be no winners in this war, only losers.

This

Sunflowersinwinter · 22/11/2024 14:25

ruth432190 · 22/11/2024 14:08

Important to remember too, this didn't start on 7th October. Israel had been carrying out atrocities against Palestinians since 1948. To blame Ha&^s for everything (as terrible as they are and as much as I dislike them), is very short-sighted. They didn't exist till 1987... How can all the Israeli atrocities pre-1987 be explained? If people start arriving on boats from other parts of the world, forcing the native population off the land, stealing homes, slaughtering people en masse, surely one might see how this is problematic?
Put simply, if someone forces their way into your house saying it's now theirs... Would you just accept this and walk away, leaving it to them? Of course not.
I'm Jewish and my "ancestral homeland" certainly isn't Israel. It's mainly Russia (according to my ancestry DNA test kit :))... It would be absolutely ludicrous for me to rock up in the Russia village of my distant ancestors, wreaking havoc and trying to lay claim to someone's home. This is the logic used by Israel to justify it's atrocities... Claiming that settlers are simply "returning home". There's a reason why DNA testing is so strongly frowned upon in Israel.

This.

And let's not forget Israeli apartheid, they just passed a law today which bars Israeli Jewish settlers from being held in administrative detention. When Palestinians are frequently held without any charge or trial. Israel has become a pariah state that is carrying out a genocide and should not have our support.

EvilsElsasPetSnowman · 22/11/2024 15:03

VisitationRights · 22/11/2024 14:10

When the ICC turns a blind eye to the genocide of the Kurds by Erdogan, the genocide of the Uyghurs in China, ignores the political/religious mass murders in Iran and Yemen and Sudan, and then only issues arrest warrants against Israeli leaders and a dead hamass terrorist but ignore the live ones living in Turkey then they have lost any legitimacy.

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Thewokewokingwarrior · 22/11/2024 15:04

The ignorance on this thread beggars belief.

How DARE those pesky Palestinians attempt to fight for freedom, for their land back and against intolerable living conditions where even drinking water is tightly controlled.
Don't they know they should just die quietly?
They don't have weapons or an army.

The lies about Yahya Sinwar are crazy- even the Israeli authorities admitted he had not eaten for three days before he died. So much for stealing food!

And have you not heard of the acclaimed Palestinian orthopaedic surgeon who was raped to death in an Israeli prison? No moral outrage for that?
Israelis rioted in the streets- not because IOF soldiers use rape as a tool but for the right to do it unhindered.
The Palestinians are the bravest people on the planet in my eyes.

Thepurplepig · 22/11/2024 15:06

WingSluts · 22/11/2024 05:32

That’s a very selective thread title. A warrant has also been issued for Mohammed Dief.

Someone who really does need arresting.

EvilsElsasPetSnowman · 22/11/2024 15:06

ruth432190 · 22/11/2024 13:48

The ICC arrest warrants are long overdue but better late than never.
Tbh, I think it's incredibly arrogant of Israeli leaders to believe they can do what the hell the want (including ethnic cleansing, amongst other war crimes) without any consequences or legal implications on the international stage. The strongest response they could offer to yesterday's news from the ICC was to call the court's decision "anti-semitic". It's shameful how they always go straight to this ridiculous and totally baseless slur whenever their actions are challenged/condemned. It's an insult to those of us who have lost loved ones who were REAL victims of REAL antisemitism. Netanyahu deserves to rot in a prison cell.

The strongest response they could offer to yesterday's news from the ICC was to call the court's decision "anti-semitic".

Netenyahu believes that it’s antisemitic because the ICC don’t believe Jewish people have the right to a homeland and state of their own. Which IS antisemitic. I can’t see anywhere they’ve said this mind but their propensity to ‘pick on’ a non member whilst other nations are committing similar atrocities is interesting if nothing else. When so much of the rhetoric on Israel’s right to exist and defend itself IS antisemitic, I don’t think this is an extraordinary stretch and would be interested if they refute it (they won’t, the ICC seems to be largely performative rather than action-takers)

It's an insult to those of us who have lost loved ones who were REAL victims of REAL antisemitism

OK I could be reading this wrong but are you referring to the Holocaust? And if so do you think the Holocaust is the only and/or most recent example of antisemitism?

EvilsElsasPetSnowman · 22/11/2024 15:08

Sunflowersinwinter · 22/11/2024 14:25

This.

And let's not forget Israeli apartheid, they just passed a law today which bars Israeli Jewish settlers from being held in administrative detention. When Palestinians are frequently held without any charge or trial. Israel has become a pariah state that is carrying out a genocide and should not have our support.

Source?

EvilsElsasPetSnowman · 22/11/2024 15:10

Thewokewokingwarrior · 22/11/2024 15:04

The ignorance on this thread beggars belief.

How DARE those pesky Palestinians attempt to fight for freedom, for their land back and against intolerable living conditions where even drinking water is tightly controlled.
Don't they know they should just die quietly?
They don't have weapons or an army.

The lies about Yahya Sinwar are crazy- even the Israeli authorities admitted he had not eaten for three days before he died. So much for stealing food!

And have you not heard of the acclaimed Palestinian orthopaedic surgeon who was raped to death in an Israeli prison? No moral outrage for that?
Israelis rioted in the streets- not because IOF soldiers use rape as a tool but for the right to do it unhindered.
The Palestinians are the bravest people on the planet in my eyes.

What do you think about the fact Palestinian terrorists are still holding people hostages, many babies, and have been guilty of rape and murder?

Are you a terrorist apologist or do you just sound like one?

Also what do you mean by “their land back”. Israel indisputably belongs to Jewish people and Palestinians have had Gaza since 2005

Slowwly · 22/11/2024 15:10

hattie43 · 22/11/2024 06:43

Blame Hamas no one else . They think very little of their citizens before starting this war .
I can understand Israel wanting it over and done with forever .

Your optimism is sweet. What Israel is doing will create a whole new generation of vengeful terrorists. This will definitely not be ‘over and done with forever’ because of Netanyahu’s killing sprees.

Sunflowersinwinter · 22/11/2024 15:24

EvilsElsasPetSnowman · 22/11/2024 15:08

Source?

Google is your friend.

Sunflowersinwinter · 22/11/2024 15:29

Israel indisputably belongs to Jewish people

@EvilsElsasPetSnowman

Do you support the illegal occupation of the West bank?

Thewokewokingwarrior · 22/11/2024 15:30

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Buddhistcauliflower · 22/11/2024 15:45

Most of Hamas are also listed as having an arrest warrant.

EvilsElsasPetSnowman · 22/11/2024 16:01

Sunflowersinwinter · 22/11/2024 15:24

Google is your friend.

I can’t find anything that describes what you’ve quoted