The future for Muslims in the UK is "bleak and dystopian"

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https://www.theguardian.com/news/2024/nov/17/muslims-face-bleak-and-dystopian-climate-in-uk-says-head-of-thinktank

According to a report by the Runnymede Trust. The crisis in Palestine and Lebanon is considered to be a major contributing factor.

Depends where in the UK you are I suppose.

Which other communities are you referring to?

This post is specifically about Muslims.

Unfortunately, the recent findings of the Funny Trust seem to show that anti-Muslim hate crimes are common and that hatred and discrimination against Muslims is becoming increasingly normalised in our society. A 335% increase in Islamophobic hate crimes, many of these against women - people talk about opposing violence against women, but are distinctly quieter when that's anti-Muslim violence against women.

It's a difficult subject to tackle and face when organised religion in general supports segregation. We need to be promoting a more balanced community and protecting young people/children from segregation and indoctrination. Doing away with religious schools would be a good start. We also need to speak out more about harmful cultural practices that hide behind religion in the name of tolerance.

I'm sorry but we had far right anti Muslim pogroms on the streets with people setting fire to hotels with asylum seekers in based on the lies repeated in PP post so for you to call people correcting this incorrect propaganda and overreaction is pretty disgusting. This misinformation is raising the heat and the consequence is harm coming to Muslim people and generally people of colour yet you scrolled past all the racism on this thread to call out people correcting far right lies. Interesting choice.

Meanwhile no future remains a daily certainty for many Muslims in their ancestral homeland.

It was in the early 90s in London. There were lots of them. Perhaps in those days they were confident enough to do what they wanted and religion didn't determine their life choices. Yes I expect that's changed now. It's very sad.

How interesting, in other threads you said you were in France.

"Far right anti Muslim pogroms". You debase language by this sort of hyperbole until one day no one will be able to describe real horror.

But as a Muslim woman I don't want to shake a man's hand either! It's nothing to do with misogyny ffs.

It’s also interesting that you and others had nothing to say about the teacher from the Batley Grammar school who is still in hiding and in fear for his life . https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/31/batley-school-what-teacher-in-hiding-can-tell-us-about-our-failure-to-tackle-intolerance

There are people in this thread who feel very free to mock Christianity ( and continue when asked to stop) but don’t seem concerned when a teacher is in hiding in fear for his life for an allegedly blasphemous reference to a Muslim prophet .

Nope. I have never said I lived in France. Are you calling me a liar?

Violence of any kind is wrong and I do not know anybody who would condone such actions. I was appalled by the actions of the rioters in July. These people were idiot thugs just looking for a reason to cause trouble.

You seem to have skipped over my point about integrating communities. It is so important that we all learn to live together as one community rather than being divided and that needs to happen on both sides.

I don’t agree with any sort of racial or religious prejudice but I do support free speech.
Sometimes the two things conflict but people’s safety and wellbeing must always be the priority and take precedence

No sorry you debase people flooding to the streets with knives and other weapons with rhetoric that they should all be killed, setting fire to hotels with people in them.

Well you would be shocked to know that there are Jews who also join these marches. They will stop when Israel stops it's genocide.

Culturally in this country refusal to shake someone's hand can be taken as a great insult. My "lived experience haha" is feeling insulted that a man did not shake my hand in the UK in a work environment. Women have had to fight enough battles to be seen as equals in a professional environment as it us without this rubbish. I've also experienced a man feeling unable to address me directly in a boardroom environment and for my assistant (a male) being the one he would listen to. I do not want this crap for the girls of this country please.

I disagree that Muslims are losing confidence. There are of course some (lapsed?) Muslims who still drink, such as my husband's barber who always has a whiskey with my husband! However, I don't see drinking alcohol as a sign of confidence in Muslims. The Muslim women I know are very confident (without alcohol). There's one woman I work with who is a real I inspiration to me. She runs three small business and is a barrister as well! She's currently doing a PhD. She's amazing! She's one of the most supremely confident women I know. Alcohol doesn't come into.
I also know other wealthy, successful, and confident Muslim women - two lawyers, a doctor, and a consultant. There's no need to feel sad about these people. They're living great lives.

I moved into a white area. Neighbours didnt like it. I did nothing wrong. White flight started. Don't talk to me about integration.

If they wanted to go out and have an alcoholic drink with other Muslim men would they feel comfortable doing so? If so, then that's fine. But if they wouldn't because they feared the disapproval of others for reasons of religion that's not so fine (in the UK). That's sad.

It’s fear of difference.
Unless we find better ways to air all opinions and work through it all, without resorting to insults, I dread to think of the far right mess this country will become.
I’ve seen in several places that Nigel Farage is tipped to being a very real prospect of PM in the future.

Look at the US. Another Trump term largely because people were called thick racists and homophobic bigots. It may be true, but talking to large parts of the population like that will only push them further right.

Wtf? So we are only worthy if we emulate drinking culture?

Wouldn't dream of it.

Yes - sadly..

The knives and machetes were Muslim men too.

The fire was one absolutely horrible incident. If a real "far right pogrom" broke out everyone would assume it was that same sort of single incident where no one actually died. The word loses its power.