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"You see us burning, you stay silent..."

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Scirocco · 19/10/2024 16:37

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr54y0qplgvo

Please, read, listen and see what is being done to innocent people here.

Remember them.

Now, perhaps more than at any previous time in history, we can easily know the human cost of hate and violence, and the human cost of looking away.

Remember them. And remember all the other innocent people who have died and continue to die because of hatred and because of apathy.

A selfie taken by Sha'aban al-Dalou showing him and his family. He is a young man of 19 in a blue t-shirt, standing in the foreground, with six relatives aged from childhood to middle age smiling behind him. Some of the children are making thumbs-up ge...

'You see us burning, you stay silent': Family’s agony over mother and sons burned to death in Gaza tent

Ahmed al-Dalou lost his wife and two sons after an Israeli strike burned their tent near Gaza’s Al-Aqsa hospital.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr54y0qplgvo

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PeasfullPerson · 19/10/2024 17:56

I had a conversation about this same article earlier today.

"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything."

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 19/10/2024 18:02

What should we do, though? I'm raging about the situation, and I'm from neither religion or country. Our politicians are not listening.

Dulra · 19/10/2024 18:04

The account of this has been such a distressing read and the image will never leave me, unfortunately I have no faith that it will lead to anything changing we live in such a cruel divided world.

Chowtime · 19/10/2024 18:06

Men will kill each other until there are no men left. It'll never change.

SunriseMonsters · 19/10/2024 18:08

What do they want us to do? People from a country on another continent. Why aren't their immediate neighbouring countries assisting them?

Scirocco · 19/10/2024 18:25

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 19/10/2024 18:02

What should we do, though? I'm raging about the situation, and I'm from neither religion or country. Our politicians are not listening.

We can support each other - check in with people with loved ones in the region - many of us feel very alone in our grief and even a small act of kindness means so much.

We can donate and fundraise for charities working in the region (check it's one you agree with first!).

We can put pressure on politicians - international pressure to get aid in and a ceasefire agreed is important.

We can remember the people who have died. They mattered. They are loved and missed. Many will never have a grave of their own, or a headstone, or any surviving family to remember them. Nobody wants to die namelessly and with nobody to remember them.

We can do kind things in their memory. We can help our fellow humans, make efforts to challenge religiously motivated prejudice and hatred. Many of the people who are dying are Muslim - in Islam, every good and kind deed done in memory of a person who has died is a way to let that person know they are not forgotten and to keep the goodness of that person alive in the world.

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PeasfullPerson · 19/10/2024 18:41

Scirocco · 19/10/2024 18:25

We can support each other - check in with people with loved ones in the region - many of us feel very alone in our grief and even a small act of kindness means so much.

We can donate and fundraise for charities working in the region (check it's one you agree with first!).

We can put pressure on politicians - international pressure to get aid in and a ceasefire agreed is important.

We can remember the people who have died. They mattered. They are loved and missed. Many will never have a grave of their own, or a headstone, or any surviving family to remember them. Nobody wants to die namelessly and with nobody to remember them.

We can do kind things in their memory. We can help our fellow humans, make efforts to challenge religiously motivated prejudice and hatred. Many of the people who are dying are Muslim - in Islam, every good and kind deed done in memory of a person who has died is a way to let that person know they are not forgotten and to keep the goodness of that person alive in the world.

Thank you. There are so many things we can do ❤️

OhMaria2 · 19/10/2024 18:43

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Silence1 · 19/10/2024 21:23

SunriseMonsters · 19/10/2024 18:08

What do they want us to do? People from a country on another continent. Why aren't their immediate neighbouring countries assisting them?

Ignore people like you for a start .

I watched the inferno video and it upset me so deeply. I am not with them physically but I am with them.

SunriseMonsters · 19/10/2024 21:52

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SunriseMonsters · 19/10/2024 21:53

people like you

Excuse me?

Scirocco · 19/10/2024 21:54

SunriseMonsters · 19/10/2024 18:08

What do they want us to do? People from a country on another continent. Why aren't their immediate neighbouring countries assisting them?

Well, we could start by asking our governments to send fewer shipments of the weapons being used to kill them.

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SummerFeverVenice · 19/10/2024 21:55

SunriseMonsters · 19/10/2024 18:08

What do they want us to do? People from a country on another continent. Why aren't their immediate neighbouring countries assisting them?

The neighbouring countries are assisting them as much as they can!
Did you ask the same question about Ukraine?

SunriseMonsters · 19/10/2024 21:57

Ignore people like you for a start .

I see.

Continue as you are then, attacking anybody who points out the hypocrisy and hand wringing that'll make not the slightest bit of difference because nothing will change until people admit that that entire region of the world is a mess because of the violent, militant, religious regimes that carry on like it's the middle ages.

Scirocco · 19/10/2024 21:57

SunriseMonsters · 19/10/2024 21:53

people like you

Excuse me?

I think the poster was saying that, even if the people dying in Palestine and Lebanon are many miles away, they are still people, like you, like me, like all of us. So we should care when such awful things are being done to them.

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SunriseMonsters · 19/10/2024 21:59

The neighbouring countries are assisting them as much as they can!

Hardly. Egypt kept its border firmly shut for months. Regimes in the region seem determined to inflame conflict further, as they do with each other, repeatedly. And will continue to do as long as their societies are "governed" by religious extremists.

Firstgenfunc · 19/10/2024 22:01

I think the issue is that people feel powerless. It’s not that they don’t care. They feel helpless to do anything and so they distance themselves from it because it is unbearable to always be aware of that suffering and unable to do anything to change it. (Except make a donation, sign a petition, things which can feel pitifully small).

SummerFeverVenice · 19/10/2024 22:06

I wish we could do more. I feel sick watching all this unfold for over a year and am gravely disappointed in our Government- who I did not vote for due to Starmer’s comment early on about Israel having “the right” to starve Gaza. I did not vote for the Tories either for same genocide cheerleading and supplying reasons.

I have the privilege to be safe and able to look away and live normally whenever it gets a bit much. All the anguish I feel is the tiniest scratch compared to the complete hellscape millions of Palestinians and the hostages have lived through for a year and counting. I cannot imagine the trauma, the fear, the pain, the deprivation- it is beyond human endurance.

SummerFeverVenice · 19/10/2024 22:08

SunriseMonsters · 19/10/2024 21:59

The neighbouring countries are assisting them as much as they can!

Hardly. Egypt kept its border firmly shut for months. Regimes in the region seem determined to inflame conflict further, as they do with each other, repeatedly. And will continue to do as long as their societies are "governed" by religious extremists.

Do you mean the months Israel was bombing it so no one could go through, or the months after Israel drove tanks around, destroyed the crossing, and kills anyone trying to go there? Or perhaps the months when some people could cross but they had to be on the Israel approved list?

Silence1 · 19/10/2024 22:08

SunriseMonsters · 19/10/2024 21:59

The neighbouring countries are assisting them as much as they can!

Hardly. Egypt kept its border firmly shut for months. Regimes in the region seem determined to inflame conflict further, as they do with each other, repeatedly. And will continue to do as long as their societies are "governed" by religious extremists.

Because Egypt does not want to be seen as complicit in Israel's population redistribution plans especially now we see the Likud party organizing settlement conferences.

Silence1 · 19/10/2024 22:10

@SunriseMonsters I do agree with you about religious extremists in power, I do include Israel in that.

Silence1 · 19/10/2024 22:15

DEC has started a fund raiser to help
The Disasters Emergency Committee (DEC) is launching an "urgent" fundraising drive to help people "devastated" by the conflicts in the Middle East.
The DEC, which brings together 15 of the UK’s biggest aid charities including Oxfam, British Red Cross and ActionAid - says the scale of need is "overwhelming".
It says people across Gaza, Lebanon and the wider region require food, shelter and medical care after fleeing their homes in search of safety - and donations will be matched by the UK government up to the first £10m.

More than £11m raised in two days after DEC appeal to help people in Middle East | ITV News

workingtowards · 19/10/2024 22:16

It’s so hard to witness. I have been giving to the Disasters Emergency Committee. It’s the only way I can think to help in any real way. https://www.dec.org.uk

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Catatonican · 19/10/2024 22:18

Every little helps in this case. The ultimate goal should be to force sanctions on Israel. Anyone working in large institutions, especially financial services, start applying pressure in house and support movements that are exposing the covert funding of UK institutions in Israeli defence. This is already generating success at one particular institution. Boycott Israeli companies and goods.

SunriseMonsters · 19/10/2024 22:19

Do you mean the months Israel was bombing it so no one could go through, or the months after Israel drove tanks around, destroyed the crossing, and kills anyone trying to go there? Or perhaps the months when some people could cross but they had to be on the Israel approved list?

Israel is a country led by religious extremists almost as barmy as all of the muslim ones in the region. Your comment proves my point, one sided as it is.