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SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 28/01/2025 21:05

MissyB1 · 24/01/2025 13:49

Yep as soon as they went into Syria I said they wouldn't be leaving. They will insist to the world that it's necessary for Israel to have a military presence there, not that world seems to care about Israel breaking international rules 🙄

You & SummerFever are correct, the intent is to stay indefinitely for an “unlimited amount of time” per Katz, the new Israeli Defence Minister.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2025-01-28/israel-says-its-troops-in-syria-will-remain-atop-mt-hermon-indefinitely
”Israeli troops who seized strategic ground in southern Syria after the fall of Bashar al-Assad will remain on the summit of Mount Hermon indefinitely, Defence Minister Israel Katz said on Tuesday after visiting troops there.”

https://www.ft.com/content/72cd43bc-d786-445c-b9f5-aaa495256810

“Israel initially cast its incursion into a previously demilitarised buffer zone inside Syria as a temporary move to prevent hostile forces moving into the area in the power vacuum left by the collapse of Assad’s dictatorship in December. But visiting the Syrian side of Mount Hermon on Tuesday, Israel Katz said Israeli forces would remain “on the summit of Hermon and in the security zone for an unlimited time to ensure the security of the Golan Heights and northern settlements and all residents of the State of Israel”.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 30/01/2025 12:42

Child shot by an IDF sniper in the West Bank. Warni: the video is VERY distressing. 😢

x.com/QudsNen/status/1884695509849264617

Scirocco · 30/01/2025 13:08

Palestinians who were due to be released today are being returned to prison. The vehicles carrying them have turned around.

Dulra · 30/01/2025 13:37

Scirocco · 30/01/2025 13:08

Palestinians who were due to be released today are being returned to prison. The vehicles carrying them have turned around.

Looks like their release will be delayed until safe release of future hostages can be guaranteed. Total mess and so hard psychologically for those on the bus turned back. Hopefully they can sort this impasse and resume as planned on Saturday. Do the UN need to take over the handover with red cross and exclusion zone of handover section created. So fragile

EasterIssland · 30/01/2025 13:55

Does someone remember what they looked like in nov 2023. I think it was middle of the night with nobody else around?

it’s clear Hamas wants the attention and they’re loving it. Israel hasn’t destroyed them and they’re trying to proof it to the world that they are as strong as before 7 oct

Scirocco · 30/01/2025 13:57

EasterIssland · 30/01/2025 13:55

Does someone remember what they looked like in nov 2023. I think it was middle of the night with nobody else around?

it’s clear Hamas wants the attention and they’re loving it. Israel hasn’t destroyed them and they’re trying to proof it to the world that they are as strong as before 7 oct

I think these ones were even worse due to the heavier involvement of PIJ, who are even considered by other extremists to be brutal and extremist.

EasterIssland · 30/01/2025 14:02

Scirocco · 30/01/2025 13:57

I think these ones were even worse due to the heavier involvement of PIJ, who are even considered by other extremists to be brutal and extremist.

Didn’t realise it was PIJ. Have read that it has been quite brutal today but thought it’d have been like the previous releases

I hope Palestinians that were due to be released today still are and the fugue releases are more calm for everyone

Scirocco · 30/01/2025 14:08

EasterIssland · 30/01/2025 14:02

Didn’t realise it was PIJ. Have read that it has been quite brutal today but thought it’d have been like the previous releases

I hope Palestinians that were due to be released today still are and the fugue releases are more calm for everyone

Today was horrific. They treated an elderly gentleman and a lone civilian woman appallingly badly - Arbel and Gadi were so brave. I haven't seen what happened to the Thai hostages at their handover. Agam stood alone amongst masked men with guns and showed what true courage and dignity look like. None of them should have been taken, none of them should have been held for so long, and none of them should have had to go through what they experienced today before they were safe again.

Thisandthatandthensome · 30/01/2025 16:43

Scirocco · 30/01/2025 14:08

Today was horrific. They treated an elderly gentleman and a lone civilian woman appallingly badly - Arbel and Gadi were so brave. I haven't seen what happened to the Thai hostages at their handover. Agam stood alone amongst masked men with guns and showed what true courage and dignity look like. None of them should have been taken, none of them should have been held for so long, and none of them should have had to go through what they experienced today before they were safe again.

May I ask what happened today? Thank you

Scirocco · 30/01/2025 17:34

Thisandthatandthensome · 30/01/2025 16:43

May I ask what happened today? Thank you

Today, 3 Israeli hostages were released: a young female soldier - Agam (a 'spotter', not an armed combatant), a civilian woman - Arbel, and an elderly man - Gadi Mozes. There were also 5 Thai hostages released in a separately negotiated deal.

Similar to what the other young female soldiers had to go through at their release, Agam had to stand on a public stage surrounded by masked and armed men, and smile and wave to a crowd as part of a 'celebration' style event. Forcing young women to do that is bad enough, but to make a young woman do that alone is even worse.

Arbel and Gadi were brought through crowds of chaotic and intimidating men, with the scenes looking seconds from crushing them. They must have been terrified and there was a real chance the people 'in charge' could have lost control and ended up with the innocent hostages getting injured or worse. It was unsafe and will have been very traumatising. There are pictures and videos online now.

In response, the release of Palestinian prisoners was halted, although subsequently resumed after Israel was able to get some assurances that today's events won't be repeated. Some of the Palestinians released today have been very serious convicted criminals, but others have not been, including some who had never been convicted of a crime and at least two 15 year olds.

Thisandthatandthensome · 30/01/2025 18:02

Thanks. It must be terrifying to go through that.

Dulra · 02/02/2025 20:22

Thanks for sharing and thanks to the surgeon for speaking out the reality of what went needs to be exposed

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 09/02/2025 05:48

Documentary: How Israel tests military tech on Palestinians-The Palestine Laboratory

Part 1

Part 2

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pPQydBGwQY

ScrollingLeaves · 09/02/2025 22:25

This also mentions the IDF shooting the pregnant woman:
From Hasretz (Israeli newspaper)
The IDF said it is expanding its offensive in the northern West Bank to include the Nur al-Shams refugee camp near Tulkarm, and had begun operating in the area overnight into Sunday. The Palestinian Health Ministry saidthat two people, including Sundus Shalabi, a 23-year-old woman who was eight months pregnant, were killed by Israeli gunfire in the camp. Shalabi's husband was critically wounded, the ministry added.

The West Bank seems to be under considerable attack.

Palestinian Health Ministry: Two killed, including pregnant woman, by IDF fire in W. Bank

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https://haaretz.us18.list-manage.com/track/click?u=d3bceadb340d6af4daf1de00d&id=59bb4ea378&e=4dc3839227

Liv999 · 09/02/2025 22:33

So sad 😢

EasterIssland · 10/02/2025 15:13

They Took Every Book With a Palestinian Flag on It': Israeli Police Raids Iconic E. J'lem Bookshop, Arrest Owners
Police told the owners of the stores, specializing in Arabic and English books on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the history of Jerusalem, that they were suspected of disturbing public order. Their lawyer says police likely pivoted once they realized they would not get approval for incitement charges

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-02-10/ty-article/.premium/israel-police-raid-prominent-east-jerusalem-bookshops-arrest-owners-confiscate-books/00000194-eee4-dc0f-a7de-fef4f44c0000

'They took books with a Palestinian flag': Israeli Police raids iconic E. J'lem bookshop

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https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-02-10/ty-article/.premium/israel-police-raid-prominent-east-jerusalem-bookshops-arrest-owners-confiscate-books/00000194-eee4-dc0f-a7de-fef4f44c0000

ScrollingLeaves · 15/02/2025 21:20

Thank you. This analysis by Dahlia Scheindlin in Haaretz, February 13th discusses the arrest of the booksellers.

Here is an excerpt from the first part of this article, without links or images:
archive.ph/2025.02.13-203914/www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-02-13/ty-article/.premium/for-israelis-from-the-river-to-the-sea-is-a-reality-for-palestinians-its-a-crime/00000194-ff23-d1d7-a9d5-ff677aae0000

Analysis
For Israelis, 'From the River to the Sea' Is a Reality. For Palestinians, It's a Crime
It is nonsensical, and hypocritical, to arrest or accuse Palestinians of promoting the ideology of 'From the river to the sea,' while in Israel, school maps don't show the Green Line and the government is advancing full annexation.

The great existential threat of Palestinians against Israel is back. A children's coloring book with the title "From the River to the Sea" leaves no doubt: Palestinians want all of the land, and they want to destroy Israel. The book is incontrovertible evidence that they incite their children to this aim of destruction and therefore they must never, ever have a state of their own.

So goes widespread sentiment in Israel, following the arrest of booksellers Mahmoud and Ahmed Muna of the Educational Bookshop in Jerusalem earlier this week.

The police first accused them of selling material involving incitement to terror. But having failed to produce evidence, they later reduced their claims to "public disturbance." But lack of evidence even for that led to the brothers' release after two nights in jail rather than the eight the police had requested. Disclosure: Mahmoud is a colleague and a friend – a thoughtful, sharp, warm, sensitive and welcoming bookstore owner. Images of him and Ahmed in handcuffs are shocking.

Apparently this needs to be said again: Israeli Jews are the last people on Earth who can complain about Palestinian longing for the land from the river to the sea. The State of Israel is the mother of "river to the sea" – using graphic rather than geographic language. It is nearly impossible to find a map in any public space in Israel today, from official maps to public art and iconography, showing the Green Line that would delineate a hypothetical Palestinian state. Maps in Israel show the whole land, undivided – in effect, erasing Palestinian political and national identity.

A private collection of snapshots I've taken around the country or captured from the internet tells a story as clearly as a coloring book: a Judaica shop down the block in Tel Aviv has a blue-glass standing object for your coffee table shaped like the map of Eretz Israel – no Green Line blemish. A charging stand for electric cars in Haifa displays a map of its stations spread generously throughout the Land of Israel – a single unit from the river to the sea (thanks to my partners in this project who snapped the shot).

Every day, the newspapers print weather maps of the whole land, absent any Palestine (Haaretz is a lone exception). In Hostage Square in central Tel Aviv, citizens have filled the place with art, including a triptych of visual images in which the middle pillar bears drawings of families hugging children in the shape of the whole territory of British Mandatory Palestine. The list and the photos go on.

As for inciting children about river to sea: This is the time to recall that Israeli public schools are practically barred from using maps showing the Green Line – no Palestine there either. Israel's river-to-sea is not just the lucky kid who gets the coloring book, but every kid in an Israeli school

It is nonsensical to arrest or even accuse Palestinians of using the term without mentioning that Israelis live out their own river to sea, every day. Outsiders: If you didn't realize that Israelis view the world through Mandate Palestine-shaped glasses – check your basic understanding of the society you claim to be fighting for. It's better than exposing yourself as a hypocrite or a liar.

But bumper stickers or paperweights aren't really the problem. The problem is that Israel implements its river-to-sea vision on the only map that matters: the ground itself. River-to-sea Israel is hard at work expanding settlements and the supporting infrastructure, transferring military powers over the West Bank to civilian arms of the Israeli state, thrusting the Israeli army into Palestinian cities like Tul Karm and Jenin after helping to collapse the rule of the Palestinian Authority. Support or oppose these policies – but tell the truth.

ScrollingLeaves · 15/02/2025 21:33

So the book was not even for sale but in the back of the shop for review.

It is interesting to have this account of the prison these innocent Palestinians were put in by Israel:

There was space in a notorious overcrowded prison in the Russian Compound district for just one more prisoner on Sunday night. So Ahmed was kept in a holding cell in the police station, while his uncle was locked up in the Russian Compound prison.

“It’s a place that’s simply unfit for a human to live in,” he said. There were ten detainees sharing his 25 sq metre cell, sleeping on mats on the concrete floor in near-freezing night temperatures.

“It’s all very crowded with no heating, no electricity, no lights, no electric light or sunlight and no clock,” he said. The inmates have no idea of time, he said, and were woken by guards every two hours or so and made to stand to be counted.

When he was moved around the jail, he said he was cuffed, blindfolded and dragged through the corridors.

“When they drag you they cut the corners, and I believe intentionally make you hit the side of the doors or the side of a corner,” he said. “There’s a huge risk of actually always bumping your head.”

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 15/02/2025 21:57

369 Palestinians scheduled for release were forced to wear tshirts emblazoned with the words “we won’t forget nor forgive”, and the Star of David.

x.com/NaksBilal/status/1890700303369937090

Ilovemytulips · 15/02/2025 22:19

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 15/02/2025 21:57

369 Palestinians scheduled for release were forced to wear tshirts emblazoned with the words “we won’t forget nor forgive”, and the Star of David.

x.com/NaksBilal/status/1890700303369937090

Most of the detainees released today were being held without charge from Gaza. That's sick that they made them wear that.

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