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YoYoYoYo12345 · 26/09/2024 21:05

It's on now. Awful.

Imagine if it was Glastonbury or Reading festivals. Just dancing and having fun.

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K0OLA1D · 30/09/2024 21:58

It was shocking to watch. I cannot even imagine the absolute fear of those poor people having to run or hide or watch their friends be slaughtered in front of them.

I think it needs to be shown again. There is so much horror in the world that people just shrug it off as its not happening to them. Seeing the survivor's talking about it, with such raw emotion really was harrowing.

blackcherryconserve · 30/09/2024 22:33

herecomesautumn · 30/09/2024 20:40

I didn't "attempt" to say anything, I said it.

This thread is about the slaughtered festival goers. Slaughtered by terrorists and a fair few of their "supporters"

It would be good if posters showed respect

Some posters don't know the meaning of the word respect. 💔

ScrollingLeaves · 30/09/2024 23:28

OrangeBlossomBlue · Today 20:09
Thank you for the list of names of those killed in the terror attack. It helps to realise they were each and every one alive, individual special people, not just some people, somewhere, who met their death some time ago.

Watching the documentary I was struck by one of them at the festival explaining how being there was a way of feeling everyone was part of one soul.

How tragic that the murdering terrorists committed their heinous crimes on the very people who might potentially, in their spirit of happiness and unity, have seen them too as being part of that one soul.

OrangeBlossomBlue · 01/10/2024 00:35

Right?

OrangeBlossomBlue · 01/10/2024 00:48

Na’ama Eitan: https://www.humansoftelaviv.co.il/5003-2/

“It all began at 6:30 a.m. We were on the dance floor when missile interceptions started above our heads. The music was shut off and they told us to evacuate the place. We ran to our cars with what little equipment we managed to grab from the complex and started driving. The roads were jammed and packed, everyone stressed to leave.
First, we drove to the right, and cars started making U-turns saying they were being shot at. So, then we drove to the left and the same thing happened. That’s when we realized we were stuck.
Luckily, there was a brigadier general standing on the road.
I stayed with him until he finished a phone call and he told me to run into the fields as fast and as far as I could. And that’s what happened; hundreds of people on average 20 years old—essentially just children! found themselves running like partisans into the woods but with no ability to fight.
After a while, we realized we were surrounded by the terrorists in every direction of potential escape. All that was left was for us to hide. As we ran, we could hear the whistling of bullets passing by us. We could only pray to not get hit.
Above us, the sky was grey, filled with never-ending missile interceptions. And yelling; some in Arabic, some in Hebrew. Those who didn’t run or who stayed on the dance floor? Their end was different from ours.
We sent our location and just waited for the rescue. We hid under a tree, barely covered, hoping not to be exposed. Thoughts came to me about what scenario is better: Death or abduction?
I was thinking about my will, and what will I say. And of all the things I have yet to get done; all that I couldn’t accomplish yet. I thought about my family, and about Israel, and the army. Oh my, I love the IDF so much.
I thought about my trip, and my friends. I wanted to write to everyone that I love them, no matter what happens to me, but I felt that was determining destiny for me. I talked to G-d; I haven’t spoken to him in a while. I promised I would start keeping Shabbat, and that I’ll be more religious. I made peace with dying. I’m sorry for the harsh words, but that’s what went down.
After six or seven hours under the tree, with only 2 percent battery left on my friend Michal’s phone, a guy named Rami started honking for us. We crawled towards the dirt pathway. A truck came and we bawled our eyes out as we got on. So many things went through my mind. Two civilians, Rami and a guy named Leon, who took their own trucks and came to rescue partygoers from the fields, saved our lives and many other people like us.
I was reminded of my immense love for the nation of Israel. In one moment, all of us were united again.
We arrived in Patish. Everyone was terrified. The sights we’d witnessed, the sounds we were forced to hear. All that’s left is to try and cope with them. Hug your loved ones. I have never appreciated my life more. In my worst nightmare, I couldn’t imagine this would happen. I am so thankful for those who were with me and could return home safely. I hurt so deeply for those who didn’t.
Things will need to be processed a lot more. Please forgive me for sparing you the harsh details of that day. Please don’t be ashamed to call for help from professionals. We cannot get through this alone. I hug the defense forces, all of those who wrote to me, who worried for me, and prayed for us. And every single person who was there with me, who I couldn’t get through this without. And one last thing,
After a few hours in Moshav Patish (The place where we were rescued), I and another survivor from the party drove to Be’er Sheva. We met there a family member of a friend of mine. The first thing he did when he saw us was to pull out a bottle of Arak (anise-flavored liquor) and three chaser glasses and said: ‘Let’s make a toast for your life! L’Chaim (‘to life’ in Hebrew) I was a little bit shocked by his offering, but a day later I realized it was the best thing he could have done for me on that day. That was the first time I toasted for my life. My own life. On the 7th of October ‘L’Chaim’ got a whole new different meaning to me. It will always be a reminder, that no matter what the future will hold I have to celebrate life. every single day of it. You all should. L’Chaim.”

Naama Eitan - Humans of Tel Aviv

"On the 7th of October 'L'Chaim' got a whole new different meaning to me. It will always be a reminder, that no matter what the future will hold I have to celebrate life. every single day of it. You all should."

https://www.humansoftelaviv.co.il/5003-2

YoYoYoYo12345 · 01/10/2024 04:28

OrangeBlossomBlue · 01/10/2024 00:48

Na’ama Eitan: https://www.humansoftelaviv.co.il/5003-2/

“It all began at 6:30 a.m. We were on the dance floor when missile interceptions started above our heads. The music was shut off and they told us to evacuate the place. We ran to our cars with what little equipment we managed to grab from the complex and started driving. The roads were jammed and packed, everyone stressed to leave.
First, we drove to the right, and cars started making U-turns saying they were being shot at. So, then we drove to the left and the same thing happened. That’s when we realized we were stuck.
Luckily, there was a brigadier general standing on the road.
I stayed with him until he finished a phone call and he told me to run into the fields as fast and as far as I could. And that’s what happened; hundreds of people on average 20 years old—essentially just children! found themselves running like partisans into the woods but with no ability to fight.
After a while, we realized we were surrounded by the terrorists in every direction of potential escape. All that was left was for us to hide. As we ran, we could hear the whistling of bullets passing by us. We could only pray to not get hit.
Above us, the sky was grey, filled with never-ending missile interceptions. And yelling; some in Arabic, some in Hebrew. Those who didn’t run or who stayed on the dance floor? Their end was different from ours.
We sent our location and just waited for the rescue. We hid under a tree, barely covered, hoping not to be exposed. Thoughts came to me about what scenario is better: Death or abduction?
I was thinking about my will, and what will I say. And of all the things I have yet to get done; all that I couldn’t accomplish yet. I thought about my family, and about Israel, and the army. Oh my, I love the IDF so much.
I thought about my trip, and my friends. I wanted to write to everyone that I love them, no matter what happens to me, but I felt that was determining destiny for me. I talked to G-d; I haven’t spoken to him in a while. I promised I would start keeping Shabbat, and that I’ll be more religious. I made peace with dying. I’m sorry for the harsh words, but that’s what went down.
After six or seven hours under the tree, with only 2 percent battery left on my friend Michal’s phone, a guy named Rami started honking for us. We crawled towards the dirt pathway. A truck came and we bawled our eyes out as we got on. So many things went through my mind. Two civilians, Rami and a guy named Leon, who took their own trucks and came to rescue partygoers from the fields, saved our lives and many other people like us.
I was reminded of my immense love for the nation of Israel. In one moment, all of us were united again.
We arrived in Patish. Everyone was terrified. The sights we’d witnessed, the sounds we were forced to hear. All that’s left is to try and cope with them. Hug your loved ones. I have never appreciated my life more. In my worst nightmare, I couldn’t imagine this would happen. I am so thankful for those who were with me and could return home safely. I hurt so deeply for those who didn’t.
Things will need to be processed a lot more. Please forgive me for sparing you the harsh details of that day. Please don’t be ashamed to call for help from professionals. We cannot get through this alone. I hug the defense forces, all of those who wrote to me, who worried for me, and prayed for us. And every single person who was there with me, who I couldn’t get through this without. And one last thing,
After a few hours in Moshav Patish (The place where we were rescued), I and another survivor from the party drove to Be’er Sheva. We met there a family member of a friend of mine. The first thing he did when he saw us was to pull out a bottle of Arak (anise-flavored liquor) and three chaser glasses and said: ‘Let’s make a toast for your life! L’Chaim (‘to life’ in Hebrew) I was a little bit shocked by his offering, but a day later I realized it was the best thing he could have done for me on that day. That was the first time I toasted for my life. My own life. On the 7th of October ‘L’Chaim’ got a whole new different meaning to me. It will always be a reminder, that no matter what the future will hold I have to celebrate life. every single day of it. You all should. L’Chaim.”

Thank you for sharing

L'Chaim

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GentleScroller · 01/10/2024 09:27

OrangeBlossomBlue · 01/10/2024 00:48

Na’ama Eitan: https://www.humansoftelaviv.co.il/5003-2/

“It all began at 6:30 a.m. We were on the dance floor when missile interceptions started above our heads. The music was shut off and they told us to evacuate the place. We ran to our cars with what little equipment we managed to grab from the complex and started driving. The roads were jammed and packed, everyone stressed to leave.
First, we drove to the right, and cars started making U-turns saying they were being shot at. So, then we drove to the left and the same thing happened. That’s when we realized we were stuck.
Luckily, there was a brigadier general standing on the road.
I stayed with him until he finished a phone call and he told me to run into the fields as fast and as far as I could. And that’s what happened; hundreds of people on average 20 years old—essentially just children! found themselves running like partisans into the woods but with no ability to fight.
After a while, we realized we were surrounded by the terrorists in every direction of potential escape. All that was left was for us to hide. As we ran, we could hear the whistling of bullets passing by us. We could only pray to not get hit.
Above us, the sky was grey, filled with never-ending missile interceptions. And yelling; some in Arabic, some in Hebrew. Those who didn’t run or who stayed on the dance floor? Their end was different from ours.
We sent our location and just waited for the rescue. We hid under a tree, barely covered, hoping not to be exposed. Thoughts came to me about what scenario is better: Death or abduction?
I was thinking about my will, and what will I say. And of all the things I have yet to get done; all that I couldn’t accomplish yet. I thought about my family, and about Israel, and the army. Oh my, I love the IDF so much.
I thought about my trip, and my friends. I wanted to write to everyone that I love them, no matter what happens to me, but I felt that was determining destiny for me. I talked to G-d; I haven’t spoken to him in a while. I promised I would start keeping Shabbat, and that I’ll be more religious. I made peace with dying. I’m sorry for the harsh words, but that’s what went down.
After six or seven hours under the tree, with only 2 percent battery left on my friend Michal’s phone, a guy named Rami started honking for us. We crawled towards the dirt pathway. A truck came and we bawled our eyes out as we got on. So many things went through my mind. Two civilians, Rami and a guy named Leon, who took their own trucks and came to rescue partygoers from the fields, saved our lives and many other people like us.
I was reminded of my immense love for the nation of Israel. In one moment, all of us were united again.
We arrived in Patish. Everyone was terrified. The sights we’d witnessed, the sounds we were forced to hear. All that’s left is to try and cope with them. Hug your loved ones. I have never appreciated my life more. In my worst nightmare, I couldn’t imagine this would happen. I am so thankful for those who were with me and could return home safely. I hurt so deeply for those who didn’t.
Things will need to be processed a lot more. Please forgive me for sparing you the harsh details of that day. Please don’t be ashamed to call for help from professionals. We cannot get through this alone. I hug the defense forces, all of those who wrote to me, who worried for me, and prayed for us. And every single person who was there with me, who I couldn’t get through this without. And one last thing,
After a few hours in Moshav Patish (The place where we were rescued), I and another survivor from the party drove to Be’er Sheva. We met there a family member of a friend of mine. The first thing he did when he saw us was to pull out a bottle of Arak (anise-flavored liquor) and three chaser glasses and said: ‘Let’s make a toast for your life! L’Chaim (‘to life’ in Hebrew) I was a little bit shocked by his offering, but a day later I realized it was the best thing he could have done for me on that day. That was the first time I toasted for my life. My own life. On the 7th of October ‘L’Chaim’ got a whole new different meaning to me. It will always be a reminder, that no matter what the future will hold I have to celebrate life. every single day of it. You all should. L’Chaim.”

Context is critical to understanding, but when it comes to highly emotive situations, people often flood you with emotional context that does not support their argument. Thank you for sharing an interview with Naama Eithan. She is a survivor of the Supernova festival massacre. Her testimony can’t be disputed. I hope she heals, recovers, and lives her life.

GentleScroller · 01/10/2024 10:21

HelenHen · 30/09/2024 21:13

And you do not talk for every person marching. The marches have been peaceful and respectful for the most part, particularly given the volume of people attending.

Now please, show some respect for those mentioned in this thread and I will continue to march respectfully for the dead Palestinians. If we could all show respect to each other, there would be no more dead. You choose to dehumanise the protesters by treating them as if they are all the same. I do not do that in return, nor would I. When you see someone as less than human, you lose your own humanity.

I pray that all the killings stop and there will be no more dead. I pray for all the victims, on both sides. I suspect (correct me if I'm wrong) you do not!

You are wrong, and what’s worse, you are intentionally goading me? So, I am going to correct you for the last time: I have made it very clear for all to read that I do not view each other as less than human and thus not deserving of moral consideration unless you are a member and supporter of the atrocities carried out by Hamas on the 7th October at the Nova Festival and throughout Southern Israel.

So please stop harassing me and suggesting that I mean one thing when I mean something different.

There is a memorial service this Sunday in London so we can pay our respects to all the Israeli and foreign nationals who were murdered and taken hostage.

https://bod.org.uk/october-7-commemorative-weekend/

Give us strength, guidance and comfort on this day.

October 7 Memorial Weekend

A WEEKEND OF REFLECTION REMEMBERING OCTOBER 7 Join us for a communal memorial event on Sunday, October 6th central London (CST & Police will be present) Add to Calendar ORGANISERS IN COLLABORATION WITH PARTNERS SUPPORTERS WITH THE GENEROUS SUPPORT OF T...

https://bod.org.uk/october-7-commemorative-weekend

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