Hamas had offered on October 9 or 10 to release all the civilian hostages in exchange for the IDF not entering the Strip, but the government rejected the offer

[orangeblosssom]

Haim Rubinstein claims Israel rejected early Hamas offer to free all civilians if IDF didn't enter Gaza

Thank you for sharing. This has been quietly ignored while innocent blood is being spilled.

Source please @orangeblosssom ?

"We'll kill, rape, terrorise and maim thousands of Israelis but it's ok - we'll return the ones we kidnapped as long as you leave us alone without having to suffer any consequences. Oh and we'll obviously keep anyone aged 18-40. Deal?"

https://www.timesofisrael.com/no-doubt-netanyahu-preventing-hostage-deal-charges-ex-spokesman-of-families-forum/amp/

Yes but that didn't make amends for what hamas had already done. There was a price to pay for that.

Quite. What the hell is the OP on

By op do you mean Haim Rubinstein?

Ah, vengeance. Yes. At least that's a more honest assessment of motivation.

The clear implication of the OP is that the Israeli government acted unreasonably. Hence my question.

Well, they appear to be 'on' citing an interview with Haim Rubinstein published by the Times of Israel, reporting some concerning information regarding the actions of the Israeli government.

30,000+ Men, Women and Children killed in revenge still not enough for you?

I’d suggest you read the link I’ve posted which is the one the op is referring to before you continue attacking the op for reporting something that Israel media has posted.

Forgive my ignorance, but who is Rubinstein?

You’ve the answer in the link I’ve posted in this thread

I understand what the OP is referring to, and the implication of her post. I am taking issue with that. It’s really not that hard to grasp, you know.

Collective punishment is a war crime.

Israeli intelligence have managed to surgically target people in both Lebanon and Syria but the only option for Gaza was genocide?

Netanyahu only mentions the hostages when they are politically useful to him, he doesn't give a shit about them or he wouldn't run the risk of killing them with Israeli bombs.

Are you attempting to make some sort of allegation here?

So it was all about revenge, an eye for an eye? Not the hostages at all?

They could have secured the safe release of the hostages regrouped and worked with their allies to find and disable Hamas as was offered to them, but no they wanted revenge, they wanted Gaza obliterated and Gazan blood spilt

Exactly. Its utterly bizarre. No nation on this earth would expected to put up with this, except Israel. Especially as Hamas said at the time that they would do it again. Israel should not have been expected to give anything in return for the release of hostages - I wish people would stop for a minute & think about what Hamas did. It was an act of war & so grotesque that many of the details have not been shared. Of course Israel was going to do something in response for the grotesque murders as well as to get tje hostages back. Hamas said they would do it again. Israel had to limit their ability to do that.

That's an interesting suggestion. How would they have 'disabled' Hamas?

I can't imagine any other country would be expected to not take action after their neighbour perpetrated an attack on the scale of October 7th. Why is Israel expected to behave differently than literally any other country? Can you imagine what the US would do if a foreign government orchestrated the murder and rape of americans in their own homes?

The ex spokesman of the families forum for the hostages and missing people

And what would have?
Intentionally killing innocent civilians is a war crime. Basically what your suggesting is the Israeli government and the IDF are no better than a terrorist organisation. Got it thanks