Gaza is a foreign war and councillors can't effect it

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Just this really. No matter how strong your feelings on Gaza why vote for local councillors ,who should be concerned about verge cutting and leisure centres, on this issue.

Your councillor won't finish a an audit committee on car parking charges in Oldham then get on the phone to Benjamin Netanyahu to have a go.

Are councillors getting votes on this ticket going to be any good for advocating for good local services.

Sorry sorry wrong link: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-67231473

So councillors have stepped down because they do not agree with their party leader on an issue. Nothing unusual or new about this in politics, why do you see it as an issue? It is not relevant to the ops reason for starting the thread.

Durla, I haven't but you asked the OP about single issue councillors. Here they are, might not be standing on single issue but the certainly resigning about it. Same effect?

Resigning from a party affiliation isn't resigning as a councillor.

Don't agree it is the same. The op was talking about people standing for local elections solely on the Gaza ticket with no other policies whatsoever (they haven't named one councillor yet that has done this).
You are talking about councillors already in local government resigning their seat because they don't agree with their party leader on a particular issue. It is completely different and a normal part of politics

Completely different. I could be an MP or councillor with several areas of political interest, none of them involving foreign affairs, but I could refuse to vote in favour of something I morally disagree with, for example the murder of thousands of children. By voting against the party line I am effectively resigning from my political party. But it doesn't make me a single issue politician.

Semantics.

People stand or resign for single issues or stand and resign for issues that are specific to their community. Human nature, it's okay to recognise it and it's okay if people who aren't in that community to call it out if it's not in the interest of general citizen. Why not say it?

How is it semantics?

Resigning from a party affiliation is completely different from resigning from being a councillor.

I suppose the point is, if elected to look after local interests, it would seem odd to resign on the basis of non-local interests.

In relation to councillors resigning from parties? But they aren't resigning from being councillors. If anything, independent councillors are often more able to focus on local interests as they aren't as tied to party politics.

Oh the mind gymnastics. Some resign from a position or other on a single issue.

How is it gymnastics to understand that being a councillor affiliated with a party and being a councillor not affiliated with a party are both being a councillor?

When they resign for issues that are irrelevant to the job at hand?

It has been said a few times now, they have resigned from their party not the Council, they are now an independent councillor still well able to carry out the job at hand

If you're asked to vote on something it's not irrelevant to your job. It is your job.

How many times, they still
resigned a position for that single issue.

What will make them rejoin Labour? Is it nhs waiting lists, schools crumbling our climate?

Ok you obviously see this as an issue I don't. Doesn't bother me in the slightest if a councillor I voted for has resigned from their party if that party no longer aligns with their values and is now sitting as an independent. Thankfully if it does bother you, you can vote against that candidate at the next election.

None of this is relevant to the reason the thread was originally set up which is something I very much have an issue with because I feel the op set up a thread on something she has not provided any evidence for and I feel the thread was only started to create division and lecture people on who they should and shouldn't' vote for.

Why are you posting this pornographic imagery here? What absolute disregard for the dignity of those involved.

Edited to add a definition of "pornographic" so that I am not misunderstood.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pornography#:~:text=%3A%20the%20depiction%20of%20acts,the%20pornography%20of%20violence

Durla

I said it didn't bother me! You're the one that wanted proof of councillors standing for single issue. That was difficult to provide (it's not a black and white thing) so I provided you with a list of councillors who resigned because of it.

Same principle, you said it wasn't so I asked you whether these councillors would then rejoin Labour on say for nhs, education. If not, it surely is the single issue that is stopping them?

And isn't that the same reason pro Palestinian won't vote Labour, that's single reason.

You're the one that wanted proof of councillors standing for single issue
Because that was the sole purpose of the thread and there doesn't seem to have been any councillors that stood for election solely on Gaza, so I have questioned numerous times why was the thread started, the op has never responded to me so I have concluded that it was solely started to cause division

Same principle, you said it wasn't
It isn't so I don't know why you kept posting about them.

Same principle, you said it wasn't so I asked you whether these councillors would then rejoin Labour on say for nhs, education. If not, it surely is the single issue that is stopping them?
No idea whether they would or not but reading the article you posted it was to do with values not aligning which would run deeper than just one issue.

@ChickyBricky The post was meant to be in the Rafah thread. I have asked for it to be removed.

I am posting this so people stop dehumanising the people in Gaza.

It’s to show the reality of what some people are advocating for and are happy to support.

Children in Gaza deserve to live.

OK... I actually think it's dehumanising to post that sort of thing, but it's up to you obviously!

Can I ask why you think it’s dehumanising?

It violates their privacy and dignity. Just because social media makes it possible to witness traumatic human experiences doesn't confer the right to do so, I don't think. The internet is a weird place where things can be shared with all kinds of intent, both well-meaning and malicious.