University students rising up against ties with Israel (title edited by MNHQ at request of OP)

[EasterIssland]

Many university students are raising up against the ties their universities have with Israel. Students are asking for this agreements to stop
I can see this is happening in USA which has been in the news quite a lot but I can also read news about Paris as well as UK.

I really doubt much will change but I’m glad people are against these agreements. We can’t change what Israel / Hamas do. But we should be able to change what our governments / universities do.

This is chilling

The guy in the videos is the head of the protesters at Columbia. Not exactly some random who has wandered in.

@EasterIssland as I’m sure you are aware Spain has a separation between church and state. Israel is happy to recognise same sex partnerships and divorce.

Honestly, I don’t believe that he is.

I clicked on the other link too, which was seeming to suggest that Jewish students were being prevented from going to an area by other students. This is total rubbish, LOADS of the protesters and organisers are Jewish. The media seem to be hiding this. Why do you think this has been concealed?

The students don’t want Israel to keep blowing up children, burying them alive, storming hospitals and killing medics with their patients, sniping at toddlers, the list goes on. And this is not fabricated or taken out of context, there are literally hundreds of videos of evidence of all this stuff. I’ve seen so much of it now it’s no longer shocking in the way it was at first.

its really not about religion, it’s about human rights and crimes about humanity.

@EasterIssland Israel has a thriving LGBT nightclub scene. The rest of the Middle East? Not so much.

@User2460177 upthread you said that Jewish and non-Jewish have equal rights in Israel, but Palestinians don’t have the same rights, do they?

2022

https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-734812

https://x.com/sldmfree/status/1783611660604755984?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

Although I did just see this…

It's a common misunderstanding, even among Americans, that the Constitution protects against any restrictions on speech in all circumstances. It does not. The Constitution only protects against government restrictions on speech, and even that is qualified in some circumstances, such as threats, calls to riot or violence, etc.

https://www.uagc.edu/blog/myths-and-facts-about-the-first-amendment-freedom-of-speech-and-press

This is from a few days ago in Yale uni. The proud husband ended up deleting the video

https://twitter.com/PALMENA_IC/status/1782832257008337362

@EasterIssland now do Muslim countries

I won’t. This is not the thread for it. Happy for you to open a thread and we can discuss about it

Yes, I was listening to a discussion on this yesterday which centered around whether the School was Public or Private.

I know that there are lawyers that have offered some of the arrested students counsel on whether their rights have been infringed. I also know one school that was due to arrest the students last night changed their plans and instead decided to keep them in place and surround them. Though this may due to pictures of officers arresting students/staff violently.

Well done to these students for taking a stand.

It’s obvious who the dangerous criminals are, and it’s not these students.

Straight out of Netanyahu's mouth! Please provide links to support your statement.

I absolutely and unreservedly condemn all hate speech, and all antisemitic words and actions. There is no place for this. And there is no excuse for it.

But I believe that the hate is coming from a small minority. That doesn't make it ok, but the words and actions of that small minority also shouldn't be used to discredit the very legitimate protests from people against the Israeli government about the genocide that is being perpetrated in Gaza.

We don't have to pick a side. We don't have to be antisemitic to want the horrific suffering of the Palestinian people to stop. I want the genocide to stop and I want the terrorist attacks on Israel to stop too. I want to see the hostages released. I want the Palestinians to have their own state. I just want all of the people in the region to be able to live their lives in peace.

What Hamas did in Israel was abhorrent, and it sickened me to the pit of my stomach. But they are a terrorist group, I don't expect them to behave with any human decency because they are not decent people. But Israel is supposed to have a democratic government, it is supposed to be our ally. How can we not protest against the atrocities in Gaza without finding ourselves to be complicit?

The hate-filled minority who shout antisemitic slogans and threaten Jewish people are sadly drawing attention away from the legitimate and necessary protests against the horrific actions of the Israeli government. I want to go out and protest against the genocide in Gaza but I am hesitant about aligning myself with that small minority. But I believe that the vast majority of protesters are motivated not by hate but by humanity, and I'm proud of them going out to make their protests heard. It is inspiring to see that the younger generation are willing to raise their voices.

Links please.

I think it's the comparison to Nazi Germany is offensive.

There is no place for hate or antisemitism, but it is absolutely legitimate to protest against the Israeli government's actions in Gaza.

Even public universities and schools can have restrictions on disruptive protests because preventing other students from attending classes infringes on their rights. Your right to swing your fist stops at the other person's nose, as it were.

I think American universities are very wary of the negative publicity associated with having the police break up these protests, even if they have every right to do so. The problem is that having students call for the destruction of Israel doesn't look great either.

Most of the students who have been charged have simply been given a summons for trespassing, which, if it goes to court, will likely be dismissed. So, there's not much a lawyer can do for them.

And this isn’t about antisemitism really is it?

It’s about shutting down any criticism of Israel.

The complaints about the protests, the slander, the incorrect accusations, the attempts to intimidate.

Shame on those people who hijack the very real issue of antisemitism, to spread fear and division for their personal gain.

And pity on those who have become so consumed by fear and hate that they can’t see straight.

The thing is, people are expecting sophistication from young people whose life experience is limited.

They would have been schooled on how injustice is wrong, slavery was/is wrong, the Holocaust was wrong, discrimination is wrong and "we must rightly oppose anyone and anything that espouses thoughts/actions like that".

In their eyes a European country Britain colonized Palestine and then through the Balfour Agreement made an arrangement to allow other Europeans to "steal" the land and ethnically cleanse the native population. It's classic Colonialism which they would have been taught must be dismantled.