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Conflict in the Middle East

University students rising up against ties with Israel (title edited by MNHQ at request of OP)

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EasterIssland · 26/04/2024 17:06

Many university students are raising up against the ties their universities have with Israel. Students are asking for this agreements to stop
I can see this is happening in USA which has been in the news quite a lot but I can also read news about Paris as well as UK.

I really doubt much will change but I’m glad people are against these agreements. We can’t change what Israel / Hamas do. But we should be able to change what our governments / universities do.

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Dulra · 07/05/2024 08:49

ConnieCounter · 06/05/2024 23:00

Trinity College Dublin to divest from investments in Israeli companies that feature on UN ‘blacklist’

https://twitter.com/IrishTimes/status/1787549165280796967?t=JtaknungVbCRU6nPO3s8Pg&s=19

Yes this protest has been all over Irish news. They had to close the Book of Kells which is a massive tourist attraction so I guess that contributed to getting it sorted as quickly as possible

Struggggggling · 07/05/2024 10:23

TheKeenAmberHedgehog · 06/05/2024 23:21

Is that all Jewish students or just the ones in the Pro-Israel camp?

TextureSeeker · 07/05/2024 12:31

ConnieCounter · 06/05/2024 23:00

Trinity College Dublin to divest from investments in Israeli companies that feature on UN ‘blacklist’

https://twitter.com/IrishTimes/status/1787549165280796967?t=JtaknungVbCRU6nPO3s8Pg&s=19

This is a great start. Divesting from Israeli companies that feature on the UN blacklist needs to become the norm across the EU. Small changes lead to big changes. Maith sibh 👏

Gunnersforthecup · 07/05/2024 20:32

Finallyloggedin · 06/05/2024 18:38

https://x.com/rachael_swindon/status/1787517412352385060?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

Proud father of a student protesting - “What she has done is worth 10 PHDs”

It really really isn't worth ruining her education.

A lot of these students will one day regret their actions, I'm sure.

And this is a tiny tiny number of people, compared with the number of other students and academics at the universities.

Kindatired · 07/05/2024 21:48

Well done to Laszlo, the students union president and to Quinn the other protest leader. They have risked everything and got a result

EasterIssland · 08/05/2024 06:59

EasterIssland · 06/05/2024 18:46

the man in blue getting into the face of the girls and committing hate crime has been identified as a uni professor

https://twitter.com/gazanotice/status/1787462255753277511

Glad he’s been suspended

University students rising up against ties with Israel (title edited by MNHQ at request of OP)
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Scirocco · 08/05/2024 08:27

EasterIssland · 08/05/2024 06:59

Glad he’s been suspended

Not very ethical behaviour on his part, really.

PeasfullPerson · 08/05/2024 09:01

From Al Jazeera this morning

‘LISTEN: With no universities left in Gaza, student protests bring hope

The sound of student protests has echoed worldwide. Students protesting around the world have resonated with Palestinians amid the destruction of nearly all universities in the Gaza Strip.
Palestinian university presidents have signed an open letter saying the international protests serve as a “beacon of hope”.
The Take looks at what has been lost to the Israeli attacks on Gaza’s universities and what remains.’

The Take | Al Jazeera

<p>The Take is a daily interview-driven international news podcast hosted by award-winning journalist Malika Bilal. Each episode focuses on conversations with journalists and people directly impacted by the news of the day, offering our listeners the c...

https://www.aljazeera.com/audio/podcasts/the-take

EasterIssland · 08/05/2024 09:34

Song written by rapper Macklemore about what is happening in Gaza and the protests in the universities and how usas politicians look to the other side. All proceedings going to URNWA

https://twitter.com/macklemore/status/1787616471738368099

https://twitter.com/macklemore/status/1787616471738368099

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TheKeenAmberHedgehog · 08/05/2024 09:47

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/05/07/the-bbc-is-hiding-the-toxic-truth-about-anti-israel-protest/

For the latest evidence of the BBC’s failure to take anti-Semitism seriously, look no further than the corporation’s reporting of the campus protests at Columbia and other American universities. It goes without saying that we all have the right to protest. But it is abundantly clear that what is taking place on these campuses is a great deal more toxic, ugly and racist. Violence, intimidation and threats against Jewish students and teachers have been a daily occurrence.
At Columbia, there appears to have been no attempt to hide the anti-Semitism at the protest sites. Captured on video, protesters screamed the following at two Jewish students outside the campus gates: “Never forget the 7th of October.” “That will happen not one more time, not five more times, not 10 … but ten thousand times.” “The 7th of October is going to be every day for you!” On American soil, at a place of learning, Jewish people faced threats of a massacre. The spectre of pogroms, long thought part of the history of Jewish people, not their present, had returned.
The same is true at other American universities. At UCLA, things got so bad that pro-Palestinian demonstrators created a checkpoint to stop Jewish students from entering campus. The denial of access to education on grounds of race should be condemned by us all, but many of the campus protesters are selective in their activism when it comes to human rights. For them, anti-Semitism does not count.
The scale of racism against Jews on campuses is such that Joe Biden felt forced to intervene. Warning of an alarming surge of anti-Semitism, he said: “Silence is complicity. Even in recent days, we’ve seen harassment and calls for violence against Jews. This blatant anti-Semitism is reprehensible and dangerous – and it has absolutely no place on college campuses, or anywhere in our country.”
Yet reading the BBC’s online reporting of the protests, you would often have little idea that racism against Jews is loud and proud and Jewish students and teachers are experiencing something truly horrendous.
A BBC News article first published on April 26, titled “What do pro-Palestinian student protesters at US universities want?”, speaks volumes through what it left out until it was apparently updated. This “explainer” did not make a single mention of anti-Semitism at the protests. The tone of the report was also instructive. Protesters were made to sound like young heroes, carrying forward the torch of the Occupy Wall Street movement and the anti-apartheid demonstrations of the 1980s. The bias – and lack of interest – in anti-Semitism could not have been clearer.
It is hard to understand how this is possible from a news organisation that claims to be impartial and repeatedly asserts that it takes anti-Semitism as seriously as any other form of racism.
The same is true of a BBC report on May 2 titled “Columbia University community ‘shattered’ after police raid”. The tone of the article is one of sympathy for the protesters. Issues as serious as whether the cafeteria will fully re-open are deemed worthy of careful reporting. Racism against Jews is not. Nor is the violence and law-breaking that led to the police decision to intervene.
If anyone believes that these are isolated failures, the BBC News live feed page on the US campus protests are revealing. On May 2, this page was updated 58 times over the course of more than 10 hours. The experience of racism by Jewish students was covered in just one post, 30 minutes before the page closed. Despite hours of detailed and continuous coverage, it appears that BBC News felt that anti-Semitism was just not that important.
There is a simple test one can apply to this coverage. Had the poisonous racism on display at these protests been directed at the black or Muslim community, would BBC reports make little or no reference to it? The answer would – quite rightly – be no. The racist abuse would be front and centre of the story. It would be treated with the due prominence and sensitivity it deserves. It would be headline news, at the very heart of the coverage.
Yet racism against Jews is deemed barely worthy of mention in these BBC reports, if at all. As Biden noted, silence is complicity when it comes to anti-Semitism. And again here, the BBC’s silence is an act of complicity. All this adds to the growing list of BBC failures on anti-Semitism and anti-Israel bias since the October 7 massacres. It is hard to imagine that the vast majority of members of Britain’s Jewish community will ever forget it.

The BBC is hiding the toxic truth about anti-Israel protests

Its reporting of campus demonstrations has failed to properly reflect the anti-Semitism at their heart

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/05/07/the-bbc-is-hiding-the-toxic-truth-about-anti-israel-protest

oharobot · 08/05/2024 11:22

Kindatired · 02/05/2024 22:45

I think it’s like those Venn diagrams in maths. I don’t think that you could say completely separate.Most of those who are pro Israeli fall into to two groups-people with cultural, religious ties or Christians who believe that scriptures will be fulfilled by the return of the people of Israel and then a minority of people with a vested interest in the arms trade and value the reinvestment of military “aid” back into the US. So you probably aren’t going to find many people from a Hispanic or black background involved with AIPAC unless they are a candidate that has been a recipient. But AIPAC is very influential in mainstream US politics and its power overshadows the less hawkish groups.Its particularly relevant in an election year like this, when Israel has used up a lot of munitions and needs more, both for defence, but also to prosecute the ground offensive that it wants in Rafa
Lobbying is entirely legal in the US, not necessarily sinister,and lobby groups like to flaunt their influence to encourage donors to donate more.
J Street for instance is pro-Israeli and supports a two state solution but doesn’t have the influence /funds that AIPAC has. I am probably biased from living in Manhattan for 8 years-probably very pinko lefty thing going on.People with other life experiences will no doubt have a different interpretation.I’m sorry if my post had caused offence because I feel from your post you may think it is an attack on your religion/ ethnicity/culture and this was not intended

So you are talking about the Jewish Llobby having too much influence?

Dulra · 08/05/2024 11:26

@TheKeenAmberHedgehog You keep posting long winded opinion pieces from the Telegraph. I am not sure if you expect us all to read it or whether you could at least summarise the bits you agree with so we can understand better the points you are trying to make. The telegraph would never be my go to newspaper for news and current affairs so I wouldn't be interested in reading their opinion pieces

Scirocco · 08/05/2024 11:32

oharobot · 08/05/2024 11:22

So you are talking about the Jewish Llobby having too much influence?

I think lobbying in the US in particular has too much influence as a whole.

The system enables unelected groups to essentially buy influence in government, which goes against basic principles of democracy in my opinion.

And no, this isn't a concern only when it's one lobby or one demographic, it's a concern overall. For example, a lot of children's lives could be saved if the pro-gun lobbies stopped working against gun control laws.

TheKeenAmberHedgehog · 08/05/2024 11:34

Dulra · 08/05/2024 11:26

@TheKeenAmberHedgehog You keep posting long winded opinion pieces from the Telegraph. I am not sure if you expect us all to read it or whether you could at least summarise the bits you agree with so we can understand better the points you are trying to make. The telegraph would never be my go to newspaper for news and current affairs so I wouldn't be interested in reading their opinion pieces

Up to anybody reading this thread if they want to read the pieces. The pieces are making the points so if you don't understand them, maybe email the writer?

Dulra · 08/05/2024 11:38

TheKeenAmberHedgehog · 08/05/2024 11:34

Up to anybody reading this thread if they want to read the pieces. The pieces are making the points so if you don't understand them, maybe email the writer?

The pieces are making the points so if you don't understand them, maybe email the writer?
It is not about understanding them, this a discussion thread not a cut and paste thread. I won't be reading them

The pieces are making the points
They are in a long piece of text surely it would be better to highlight or summarise the points you are trying to make. If we all did this the thread would become really unwieldy

Parkingt111 · 08/05/2024 11:50

EasterIssland · 08/05/2024 06:59

Glad he’s been suspended

Good, glad to hear it
Despicable and intimidating behaviour towards that woman

TheKeenAmberHedgehog · 08/05/2024 12:03

Dulra · 08/05/2024 11:38

The pieces are making the points so if you don't understand them, maybe email the writer?
It is not about understanding them, this a discussion thread not a cut and paste thread. I won't be reading them

The pieces are making the points
They are in a long piece of text surely it would be better to highlight or summarise the points you are trying to make. If we all did this the thread would become really unwieldy

OK - fair enough.

DomPom47 · 08/05/2024 13:17

https://www.instagram.com/p/C6rWZ3cLXmT/?igsh=MWxrcW82d212M3E5OQ==

Student camps are overwhelmingly peaceful just like the protests in London. Have been on London protests and have friends who are doing post grad research at Columbia and they have said there is plenty of representation from students and staff and that this representation is from all faiths and none. These students will be shown positively in History when we have the final numbers of Palestinians murdered, infrastructure damaged, when we see the continuous settlements on Palestinian lands, when we hear the rhetoric of fascist Israeli cabinet ministers, when we turn back and see how certain media organisations are not showing the protests in Israel against this evil government and what they are doing.

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