To say the London Palestinian marches should be stopped

[KarmaCaramello]

They are weekly marches found to be organised by organisations with links to Hamas, and at least one ex Hamas member.

They are supporting a terrorist organisation that has just committed the deadliest day in Israel’s history. An Iranian dissident was arrested for holding a sign saying Hamas is Terrorist, despite the fact that they are a UK-designated terrorist organisation - because protestors assaulted him on seeing the sign.

If they were calling for peace and fewer casualties they would be condemning Hamas and calling for them to surrender.

AIBU to think this is deeply disturbing and has no place on the streets of London. Note - terrorist support is illegal and not protected speech.

May your life be as pleasant as you are.

Thank you! I’ll continue on my merry way through life safe in the knowledge that I can use words in the correct context because I know what they actually mean.

ETA context.

Why didn't these people come out cucking for alqeada and Isis like they do with Hamas? They're 2 cheeks of the same arse.

Agree 100%
You do all realise the figures of the alleged dead are given by Hamas right?
They use women and children as shields, they are terrorist scum and need to be eliminated no matter the cost
End the protests now, water cannons and arrests if needed
Release the hostages, those who are still alive after rapes and torture
People disagreeing make me sick to my stomach. Vast majority of Gazans voted for a manifesto that wants Israel destroyed - reap what you sow - Hamas took the war to Israel, now they must be destroyed.

No matter what your beliefs are about the situation, the marches literally achieve nothing, and won't change anything. Being in the way in London every weekend using up police resources is starting to have the same effect as extinction rebellion did, people just want them to go away now and they're losing sympathy for the cause.

Of course, they achieve something. It shows a large number of people supporting the Palestinians and not agreeing with the way the government is handling the situation.

They can't see you from the Gaza strip. I think they're probably more focused on other things than checking what people in London are doing. I'm sure there are so many other ways to show support that would actually help the people who need it.

It's makes the people who are marching feel good about themselves, which is fine, but let's not pretend it's going to make a difference.

Having seen video today of Yarden Bibas being abducted it's clear that it's not just Hamas.

That's what the virtue signallers are marching to support.

If they were marching for peace they would denounce the terrorists and lobby for the release of innocent hostages

It's time the police took off their kid gloves

1)Actually they might well know about the demonstrations and marches, what makes you think they don't?
2)Anyway the point is that our Government need to hear us, we need to keep applying pressure. We have a democratic right to protest (although many members of the current Government would like that right removed!) sadly some members of mumsnet seem to want that right removed too.
3) Lots of people demonstrate also show support in other ways, I donate to charities who are on the ground in Gaza. Why do think it would be one or the other?

Who is coming out for Hamas? and what is cucking?

I don't think you really need an answer to that; you wrote your offensive posts, not I. You're welcome to refer back to your own material though and have a quiet moment of reflection.

Anyone naive enough to think these marches are about peace needs to read this report and ask themselves whose agenda they’re really supporting: https://policyexchange.org.uk/publication/tehran-calling/
Plus the £32 million spent on policing the marches could be far better spent on other things, like schools and health. Most people would prefer the police to spend their time actually investigating and solving crime.

Political protest is important.

What is happening is Gaza is shocking and unacceptable, and many people (myself included) feel out government isn't doing enough.

The idea that anyone who isn't ok with genocide must support terrorists is clearly rubbish.

@MissyB1

"Who is coming out for Hamas?

Please see my post of 12:41 which explains this.

"and what is cucking?"

Sorry can't help you on this - no idea what it means.

Here's an idea, instead of banning protests let's just ban religion. Imagine a country where nobody could belong to a gang that thinks their sky daddy is better than someone else's sky daddy. We could ban the wearing of gang colours like crosses, kippahs, hijabs or turbans. Then people would have take people as they find them without the toxic mentality of religion giving them preconceived ideas about others. If a bunch of people said killing people for land and resources is wrong people might actually listen instead of saying an old book said this is ours because an invisible man said it was.

I think registering discontent at your own government when they support a genocide is a good and important thing.

I'm fascinated by how many people in the UK are willing to sacrifice basic democratic rights when they disagree with the message.

“Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us, only sky
Imagine all the people
Livin' for today
Ah
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too
Imagine all the people
Livin' life in peace
You
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one”

Communism - yes - that really works well

@ConnieCounter

"I'm fascinated by how many people in the UK are willing to sacrifice basic democratic rights when they disagree with the message."

The issue is however why does one person's right to protest about something trump another person's right to go about their daily business/ activities unhindered and not intimidated.

@KarmaCaramello , as it stands slightly more people here believe you unreasonable. Of course you are not unreasonable but antisemitics and left leaning people may think so. Just so you know there is, among good people much support for Israel and her people. 🙏🏻

So if some people claim to be intimidated by every single protest out there we ban all protests?

How bizarre a notion.

Obviously I don’t know you but from reading this post you sound irrationally prejudiced against an entire nation. Maybe it’s just me but I really don’t like this kind of rhetoric.

Disturbingly, I read it that way too. The sheer hatred for Israelis is palpable. @HeidiInTheBigCity if your feelings are running this strong, for your own sake, please get some help.

It's funny. If a Jewish person says that the protests make them feel a bit uncomfortable or mention some of the signs and chants they're jumped on. But you think anyone at a march featuring an Israeli flag (sorry, "Israeli flag", mustn't forget the bizarre scare quotes) wants your friends dead and you struggle not to hate them.

What an overreaction from you. No one has suggested banning all protests