Anyone seen the video where the police officer says a swastika is not anti-Semitic at a pro Palestine March?

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I know there are lots of pro-Palestine supporters in this area of the board. If not anti-Semitic then what else is it standing for in this context? Apparently it was drawn on some protestors banners.

Yes, the context is certainly mystifying to the Met, that's for sure.

If that was part of a far right demo imagine how quickly it'd be removed yet for a Palestinian demo it's ok . Totally wrong .

Absolutely, it shouldn't be used by any group.

The MN poster not MET, just answer the question asked earlier by them on this thread.

Its absolutely shocking, though not surprising.

A swastika on a pro-Palestinian march has a very clear context. We all know what that is.

The pissing about the bush from that officer was a disgrace.

As is that non-apology from the police a pp posted above.

Hardly a shocker that a member of the police might hold racist views tbh.

It's obscene. I'm just so disgusted this is happening in London in 2024.

It's actually originally a Hindu symbol .

I watched the video pp posted upthread. I'm confused by the Met's response. It wasn't clear to me, but if you have further information, share it.

As stated @MrsDanversGlidesAgain asked a question earlier about swastika to which the reply was there is the Buddhist symbol of Swastika, left facing with dots. Not the MET.

It is paraded by thick anti semitic knobs who know the police are ineffective in a mob march (as can be seen most Saturdays in London). The mob know it and so act accordingly. Sensible people avoid them. They think they are changing the world blocking families from McDonalds.

They just polarise things more. Best give them a wide berth until the police start doing their job again and arrest them. Sadly they think they are helping.

That is both shocking and really embarrassing. Terrible that it was allowed to go on, no question that it was antisemitic and the policeman made every ridiculous excuse he could not to do anything about it, 'I can't move from this spot' - really??!! I think he just didn't really give a shit and didn't want to get involved. And I say that as someone who is not Jewish and does not support Israel/Netanyahu.

This is disingenuous. That question was tagged onto another quote from a PP who said that they didn't know the context it was used in and the police would have to asked why they did not consider it anti-Semitic, rather than pro-Palestinians. That failure, right there, to condemn the swatiska by that poster tells you everything you need to know about the casual acceptance of anti-Semitism by too many on the pro-Palestinian side.

So the context was still very much within this March, and the poster claiming they didn't have the 'context' to comment on whether this swastika was anti-Semitic was a revolting apologist for blatant and outright anti-Semitism of the worst kind.

So, yeah, it a bit disingenuous to then pop up with 'helpful' replies about Buddhism and Hinduism when you know quite well what the context was that question was framed within.

Well you clearly can't see why people are offended by it, given your final paragraph..

Could you, please, refrain from tarring every protester with the same brush and using insults ( thick antisemitic knobs) to describe them?
It is still our democratic right to protest. Most of the rights you have were earned by protesting, marching or striking. Are you going to give them up or is it only some you object to?

Try reading!

IT is paraded by anti semitic knobs. I mean anyone who parades with a swastika is a thick anti semitic knob in my opinion and deserves to be arrested. I wouldn't march with anyone waving or wearing that. Hope that helps 🙄

I’m glad they arrested the protestor.

My thoughts were that I believe the police are being instructed to not incite the crowd because they don’t have the resources to handle any wide spread disruption. So swastikas can fly under the radar because of the bigger picture.

If you were parading with a swastika during a protest then the comment applies to you.
If you weren't - then it doesn't.
It's a pretty easy distinction to make.

Edit to add: if you're at a protest and parading alongside someone with a swastika, then the comment also applies to you.

Swastikas are never acceptable, in any protest.

Which is appalling frankly.

Understandable, but appalling. Especially when I clearly recall the Met response to the Sarah Everard memorial.

It's almost as if they prefer to go for the low hanging fruit..

Did I say that it was acceptable? Did I say I was parading with one. Never, ever assume anything because 99% of the time you will be wrong.
Are you as vociferous about the legality of selling Nazi artifacts in the UK? I find this odious and an insult to the millions of people who suffered, my family included, under the Nazi regime?

Was this directed at me because I was the one who said the police would have to be asked? I genuinely didn't know I was supposed to 'condemn' it. I'm not British, I don't live in the UK and I find your culture of 'condemning' really confusing. I don't know when 'condemning' is needed and when it isn't.

For instance I posted on a thread that said that a source in the Tory party has said that government lawyers have said that Israel are breaking international laws and that the UK is aiding and abetting war crimes. Hardly anyone commented on that news, there is no 'condemning' there so obviously that doesn't fall under the banner of things that need to be 'condemned'. In my country that would be huge news, massive and everyone would be condemning but not in the UK and that's fair enough, you do you. But unless the poster specifies that they expect their posts to be 'condenmed' I'm lost. I have no idea what's condemn worthy and what isn't. There are so many things i think are condemn worthy and nobody says anything, so generally I just take what the OP says and answer it. The OP herself didn't 'condemn' it.

Now that I know that this is something mumsnet has decided everyone should 'condemn' rather than just answer the OP, I will say I condemn the use of a swastika on a banner at any protest. It shouldn't happen anywhere.

Aaah… after reading the mets reply it’s quite clear that woman was just a goady troublemaker herself. There was probably never a swastika.

If there was no swastika then why was she arrested?