This picture of Israeli soldiers smiling for a selfie in front of a destroyed Gaza...

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I know there are lots of pictures. I try to avoid looking as its just so awful but this one couldn't be avoided.

How sickening that the soldiers can smile and act so happy in front of all that destruction.

This is just another picture, from the thousands, that shows how the Palestinians and their lives and homes are seen as worthless.

I'm not eaten up with hatred, I'm watching Israel kill innocent people and starve them to death for 5 months. Hard to sympathise with that.

@Dibilnik

What is the point you are trying to make?

Who else is to blame for this blatant and purposeful breach of International law and attack on Gazas civillians if not Israel?

Errrrrmmmmm, how about Hamas? for deeply infiltrating all aspects of Gazan society, and for acting as it does (including human shields as their preferred modus operandi)?

I'm just responding to questions. OK, I'll STFU.

@Dibilnik I’m not sure what point you are trying to make so I wanted to clarify. Would you like to say?

Yes, even when Israel commits the massacre, genocide or whatever they're up to today, it's still someone else's fault. They're always the victim. It's fascinating how some people can be convinced of literally anything.

Oh, sorry I didn't realise you were one of the 'but Hamas' crowd who feel that Israel have no self determination at all and are nothing but puppets of Hamas. I'll stop wasting my time engaging.

There are some really sick individuals on this thread

You could just... read my posts?

It is not antisemitic to criticise the Israeli government and the IDF every nation in this world faces criticism from time to time, Israel does not get a free pass with this.

If it was possible for me to conclude your point from what you had written I wouldn’t need to ask. It’s such a straight forward question, that somebody with a valid point they wanted to convey, would surely answer it.

Yet apparently it is if I criticise them... 🤷🏻‍♀️

@Scirocco I considered getting a t-shirt with all of the things I am incorrectly perceived to be, but then I realised that would be in poor taste.

Actually, I find your posts sensible.

I'm considering just editing an Ali G meme - "Is it cos I is...?" @PeasfullPerson

It's ridiculous. I have tried to encourage interfaith engagement, to make adjustments to protests to accommodate concerns, to encourage people to consider evidence and balance in assessing allegations... But because ultimately I don't think my friends and their fellow Palestinians should be collectively punished, because I think it is morally indefensible to conduct military operations like this, I'm still in the wrong.

People are allowed to celebrate the deaths of my friends and colleagues. Actually celebrate them.

If you've ever lost someone and then had TikTok memes laughing at their cause of death, then you may understand how hurtful that is. And that's 'just' as a friend. As well as feeling hurt myself on a personal as well as general human level, I feel for families seeing that about their loved ones. (And before anyone says "What about Hamas?" Yes, I know what they used social media and telecommunications for. It was sick and twisted when they did it and I think it's sick and twisted when other people do it too).

But it's not ok to present a clear objection to the actions of a government and military force. The idea that this is based on a religious prejudice on my part is ridiculous. It wouldn't matter to me what country or religious group were doing these things. They're simply morally wrong in my opinion. But, it's not ok for me to say that, apparently. Because that's denying the validity of what's happened, and that's apparently unacceptable.

That poster is hardly an expert in the subject and should stop making these ridiculous accusations.

The fact you even had to post this is ridiculous. I still cannot fathom how someone could accuse you of being antisemitic because you were upset and worried about the death of people you love. It is outrageous and I can only imagine adds to the pain and despair you're feeling 💐

@Scirocco I really feel for you having to witness that, people can be so cruel, and stupid. You don’t come across in anyway to me as someone who is antisemitic, you come across as somebody who cares about all types of people and takes actions to help them.

Thanks @Dulra and @PeasfullPerson

If you've ever lost someone and then had TikTok memes laughing at their cause of death, then you may understand how hurtful that is.

I honestly don't understand the modern obsession with social media, as though it's anything more than wankers being wankers? We need to grow up, and stop paying attention to this rubbish.

I'm guessing you actually have no experience of that, then. Good for you. I hope you never have to experience it.

Actually, I have. So there is no need to rush for the moral high ground.

Well, in that case I'm just disappointed in your lack of empathy and basic human decency.

@Scirocco Protect your peace, lovely 💐. It's not worth it, those who care see you, care about you and empathise.